IslandExile Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 (edited) So when we re-submit our accounts to the EFL, if they're not compliant to FFP, we face a points deduction. Until we submit the accounts, we're under a transfer embargo. After struggling, and avoiding the drop by the narrowest of margins, with the squad we had last season, we've since lost players out of contract along with the loanees. Our star player is out injured. Our bright young things have regressed. We have a threadbare squad and, judging by those on trial, we're drinking at the last dregs saloon. Well we would be but we can't even afford a round there. There's no real sign of an imminent takeover and I believe Mel will keep us ticking over but, understandably, he won't do more than that any longer. So what chance do we have this season? This of all seasons, the 50th anniversary of our first top division championship. Edited July 6, 2021 by IslandExile 48 hours and Oldben 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 You didnt give us many options! So just shows you who are the crazy optimists in life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 To early to say - it depends entirely on what, if any, transfers we make. I'll admit it doesn't look great at the moment though ? but a lot can (and will need to) change before kick off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertRam Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 Still believe that without all the**** we would have been 10/12th, so long as we get a few in, get a better start, then we will be about there again, that's without a points deduction of course! and Bielik back by September. jono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelBlimp Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 As it stands now? With no points deduction? I would say no, but it's marginal for me, bottom 5 definitely. With a points deduction? Yes, absolutely if it's 6. With no points deduction, a takeover and some players Rooney wants, I see mid-table. MickD, r_wilcockson, richinspain and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 Don't think we'll go down, but I don't think we'll be top half. r_wilcockson, i-Ram and eezzeetiger 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 My “only way is up” is probably only a couple of places, but refuse in July to assume relegation is inevitable no matter what the present signs are. BathRam72, Miggins, Comrade 86 and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 (edited) Where we are now with an even weaker squad from last season whom fail to score goals and fail to keep clean sheets. With Rooney plus the coaching staff who so far have been appalling under two managers still in charge. With the Dads army recruits and misfits currently training with us highlighting our transfer capabilities for this season, we’re down. Edited July 7, 2021 by TexasRam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 (edited) 52 minutes ago, ColonelBlimp said: As it stands now? With no points deduction? I would say no, but it's marginal for me, bottom 5 definitely. With a points deduction? Yes, absolutely if it's 6. With no points deduction, a takeover and some players Rooney wants, I see mid-table. Agree with this. Edited July 7, 2021 by richinspain ColonelBlimp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, TexasRam said: Where we are now with an even weaker squad from last season whom fail to score goals and fail to keep clean sheets. With Rooney plus the coaching staff who so far have been appalling under two managers still in charge. With the Dads army recruits and misfits currently training with us highlighting our transfer capabilities for this season, we’re down. I love positivity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo jones Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 If Bielik comes back and can stay fit we might be alright, if we can also find someone who can score goals.... TimRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 24 minutes ago, BathRam72 said: I love positivity nothing more I want to be than positive, but you just have to look at the facts in front of us and be realistic I’m afraid. New owner, new management team 5/6 quality new players and we’re on the up. Stay as we are, I’ll be looking forward to following the Rams on a league one tour in 22/23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldben Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, jimbo jones said: If Bielik comes back and can stay fit we might be alright, if we can also find someone who can score goals.... the problem with Bielik is that he's due back in December and after such a long time out of the game he will take a while to be 100% match ready, so end of January. The season for Derby could be over by January if Rooney doesn't transfor into a match winning manager between now and then. Older players released on frees from other championship clubs were released on frees for a reason. Rooney who has more than 100 million can walk away from the club at any time, he threatened to do so if we were relegated. I dont see Rooney in a back to the wall moment, accomplishing more than last season. Derby need a manager who is a specialist at getting results from a team that's weaker than last season. So no transfers and a points deduction, with the teams in this division this season, top half is incredibly unlikely. Bottom 5 and another dog fight if Derby don't get no owners to turn the club around. Derby are still capable of getting a points deduction from the efl when the accounts are released. When is Mel going to walk away, I dont see him continuing to pay salaries indefinitely. Do Derby need to centre backs the wrong side of 35, Davies leaves the club and jagielka replaces him but at nearly 40 how does that help Derby. Last season we got to watch Rooney as a player, he didn't look the player he once was. If Jagielka is the best Derby can manage for free agents, we have a problem. The best younger free agents are going else where. That might be to do with the efl transfer embargo that states we can sign free agents if the salaries are reasonable. Mel is unlikely to pay for transfers if the embargo is lifted. Only new owners can save the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 Is there a "let's wait and see" option? IslandExile and i-Ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 Voted the only way is up. I watched the Palace documentary on Amazon (would recommend it) filmed when they were in serious trouble. They started a season with something like 8 players under contract (something like that), one of which was none other than Claude Davis(that's got to be worse than 10 points deduction). They survived. New start of the season, new hope IslandExile and r_wilcockson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: Is there a "let's wait and see" option? The Scarlet Pimpernel and IslandExile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 22 minutes ago, TexasRam said: nothing more I want to be than positive, but you just have to look at the facts in front of us and be realistic I’m afraid. New owner, new management team 5/6 quality new players and we’re on the up. Stay as we are, I’ll be looking forward to following the Rams on a league one tour in 22/23 I do agree, my comment was purely tongue in cheek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 If we can keep at least mid-table to the next window then I think Rooney will be able to convince 'better/younger' players to come join us. That is if it's too short a time to do that this window. "We are the Derby, the famous Derby" after all! MickD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 Personally, I think the re-introduction of fans in the ground will have a massive impact. Our results nose dived the second we were no longer allowed to attend. Patrick Rams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 9 hours ago, IslandExile said: So when we re-submit our accounts to the EFL, if they're not compliant to FFP, we face a points deduction. Until we submit the accounts, we're under a transfer embargo. After struggling, and avoiding the drop by the narrowest of margins, with the squad we had last season, we've since lost players out of contract along with the loanees. Our star player is out injured. Our bright young things have regressed. We have a threadbare squad and, judging by those on trial, we're drinking at the last dregs saloon. Well we would be but we can't even afford a round there. There's no real sign of an imminent takeover and I believe Mel will keep us ticking over but, understandably, he won't do more than that any longer. So what chance do we have this season? This of all seasons, the 50th anniversary of our first top division championship. #inwazzawetrust IslandExile and MickD 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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