Gee SCREAMER !!

1 hour ago, Foreveram said:

If only you had read four posts back you could have saved yourself from posting this nonsense. 😉

Not nonsense to me.  I detest this competition with a passion it's so far removed from what it's original incarnation of the Sherpa Van was for.  Allowing clubs with no realistic chance of a FA/League cup win the chance to see their side at Wembley.  I'd consider winning this trophy a stain on the history of the club.  I've watched the games in the hope of seeing some young players get a run out but it appears Warne may actually want to progress and have the ignominy of losing to someones U21'S at Wembley. 

Each to their own mind.

You get the semi final you deserve I suppose when you stick the best 4-5 sides in one half of the draw. Could be 40-50 points in this if NZ don't bring on more second stringers.

7 hours ago, SKHunter said:

More importantly, does this mean that the game with Wolves U21's will move to the Wednesday night?  I only ask as that's quiz night at my local so I obviously will miss the match.

I doubt it.  We already kick off in that dog crap competition at 7 as these 16 yr olds were playing against will be going to school the following day.  Playing exactly halfway through the school week would be too taxing.  Unless it's half term of course and they've not had a late evening trick or treating the night before.

1 hour ago, Bris Vegas said:

I wouldn’t exactly call a £40m a year wage bill a good foundation.

Gary Rowett (with the backing from an incredibly naive Mel), gambled on promotion in that season with no thought of the consequences of missing out.

Davies, Huddlestone, Ledley, Jerome, Wisdom and Lawrence all ballooned our wage bill and we got not return from them. 

Rowett then left the trainwreck the moment he could as he knew we were done while Vydra was going to leave, Nugent was shot and the ageing players were in decline.

Then Lampard fluttered his eyelids and Mel embarked on one last mad do-or-die campaign like a roulette player mortgaging his house and putting it all one one row.

 

I can't imagine our wage bill that season was 40 million and transfer fees were facilitated by 16 million brought in sales that season and 12 million in the close season plus 2.5 million for the manager.  The damage was done under Clement and Lampard spending 12 million on a load of crap and another 4 on someone he had a big personality clash with and wouldn't play.

57 minutes ago, Leeds Ram said:

Long term ambition is to be like Brighton. They've shown how a shrewd approach to recruitment doesn't have to cost a fortune and really upset the apple cart. They're likely looking at champions league football next season tbh. 

They also refused to let Dunk and Stephens come to Derby, turning down an offer of 4 million for their captain in the last year of his deal taking the gamble they'd go up.  They did .  If Derby had retained Bielik AND Knight last season, or at least got his arse back for 20 matches after the world cup, would we be having League 1 discussions.  Sometimes as a club I feel we don't choose the right option.  The longer term loss than an extra 500k on the wage bill will be palpable as Knights gone for sod all, as will Bird, Cashin and Sibley.   

15 minutes ago, Will the Ram said:

Rowett tenure was not great. We went from 2nd at new year to scrapping 6th on the final day. The home loss to bottom team Sunderland and away defeat at Burton (also bottom of the table at the time) were particular “highlights”, not to forget trying to sit on a 1-0 lead at for the whole of the second leg at Fulham in the Play-offs.

It was very similar to what Warne is doing now but we had vydra who could score then.

Lost Ledley for 4 months as I recall, then Winnall bust his knee.  The Sunderland game was crap but overall a decent season and we had a good foundation, muscle and goals.  Unfortunately, we came up against a Fulham side who were blistering out wide with the young winger who I think went to Spurs but never recaptured that form and the fullback who went to West Ham.  I think they're the best side we've faced in the playoffs.  Rowett was tactically far better than Warne for me.

5 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said:

Much bigger? How? Because we won 2 trophies about 50 years ago?

QPR, Stoke and Cardiff all have broken transfer records higher than Derby.

They all have the same potential. Midtable PL with the odd flirt with Europe and domestic cup finals.

Derby are in the same boat with about 20 other clubs like Stoke, Cardiff, Swansea, Boro, Coventry, Sheff Utd, Sheff Wed, Forest, Palace, Fulham, Wolves, Leicester, Ipswich, Norwich, Hull, QPR, Brentford, Southampton etc.

A long list of clubs with all the same potential just fluctuating between midtable PL and top 10 League One over the next 50 years.

Some may have extended spells in the PL, some may have extended spells in League One.

We think Derby are some kind of giant in the same way parents think their babies are the cutest in town.

24 minutes ago, richinspain said:

I imagine he is a free agent. There's still time!

I'd swop for Wash.

We did alright under Rowett .  Ledley, Johnson, Winnall and Jerome kicking crap out of everyone with a bit of Vydra tearing people apart. He also quickly noted how dross Butterfield was.  I'd take it now. We scored goals and even outmuscled Warnocks goons. Warne would love Nugent in this team.

7 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said:

I thought he was very proud of his trainers? Provided him the ultimate slithering style....

Think it went something like this.  

“All I would say about the trainer shout is, look, when this level of fashion hits Nottingham in about six months, you’ll probably see 25,000 people walking around Nottingham with these type of trainers on!

““Until someone opens a door to this type of style then unfortunately you’ll have to make do with wellies.”

4 hours ago, Chellaston Ram said:

At least you aren’t fighting over the last pie

Always worth a look😂

https://www.facebook.com/EFLBantz/videos/when-nottingham-forest-fans-started-fighting-over-the-last-pie/1486555328112073/

1 hour ago, Bris Vegas said:

Derby are no bigger of a club than Stoke, QPR or Cardiff.

And if either of those were in the League One you wouldn’t batter an eyelid.

We may have a nice stadium compared to League One sides who float between League One and League Two.

But Pride Park is a Championship standard ground these days and it hasn’t seen competitive Premier League football for over 20 years.

Claiming Derby are a huge club is like John Fury claiming Tommy Fury is a legit world level boxer. Like a proud, deluded father.

Worra load a bollox

I mean they've spent a fortune on players and wages.  Regularly finishing above midtable and missing out on the playoffs by a whisker should result in him getting the push. He's done a crap job on such riches. 

4 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

TV companies want to have as many viewers as possible, so they don't just look at local support. Thanks to Ryan Reynolds, Wrexham are now known nationally and globally. For example, Derby currnetly have just shy of 400k Twitter followers, whilst Wrexham have exploded to over 550k.

Niall Horan needs to start shifting his arse and plugging us a bit more for those free shirts he gets every year.

On 16/10/2023 at 15:14, MadAmster said:

... having shelled out >1.5M out of his own pocket to pay the players' wages one month. I don't rate him as a coach but as a crisis manager he got it spot on. Then, when the yank came in along with 2 people Rooney trusted, WR made the mistake of throwing his weight behind the bloke. When it turned out the fella didn't have a pot to piss in, it left WR in the position of having backed a loser. 

What happened next? We'll never know. I think it's perfectly feasible that, once Mr Clowes decided to save the club, WR was (made?) aware that his wage of a rumoured 75K simply wasn't on under the financial difficulties the club was in. He decided to leave. That was the right thing to do, IMO. No idea what the driving force behind his decision was. It would be great if he quit for the right reasons. Less so if he'd decided that the move was good publicity.... again, we'll never know.

I believe that was a loan from his agent to Kirchner .  Which he's now trying to get back from bank holiday Chris.

3 minutes ago, Kokosnuss said:

A player who, when we were linked, had many people scratching their heads as to why we'd want an attacker with so little end product to their play.

As I said, don't know much about him but he looks handy at this level if his game against us is the norm.  I'd take him over Wash as he can control a ball and has potential resale.

6 minutes ago, Kokosnuss said:

Are any of those players suitable for Warne's system? What attributes do they have that Warne would make use of, that the players he does have don't possess?

Harris was the one that was coming till a offer came in from Oxford we couldn't match rather than wouldn't. This resulted a bigger pocket being available and we have brought in a few since..  I can't honestly comment on his attributes other than he looked a decent player at this level when he played us. 

9 minutes ago, StarterForTen said:

Not sure there is a list but I do play golf (occasionally, and very badly) with a League One chief executive and last time out he told me he knew of at least three clubs who are spending very heavily this season and Derby (and his club) are not one of them. He said that Oxford's budget is eye-watering.

He told me that his club tried to sign a player in the summer but were blown out of the water on wages by Oxford.

There is certainly one player at Oxford we were signing till they came in last minute and we weren't in a position to match the wage offer at that point.  I understand we were also keen on one player they signed previous to this, but wouldn't match the wage they offered as it was deemed too high with other options we had in the squad. 

3 minutes ago, jameso said:

…and localise the explosive impact to the gnat? Or could other gnats in the neighbourhood be potentially affected?

Depends on the incendiary, you don't send enough explosives to take out the elephant it's chewing on at the same time, or in this case a hospital.

6 minutes ago, PistoldPete said:

Really/ Is that your considered opinion, just resorting to random insults? Germany killed millions of civillians in the Second World War. So did the Allies. You think there is no difference?    

True but bombs then were clumsily assembled clusters, dropped in the dark, with limited sighting and some blokes half frozen to death with partial hypoxia and getting blasted by shrapnel desperate to dump and get gone.

Nowadays, you can fire a bomb from a chair in a room with the navigational prowess to hit a gnats testicles from a hundred miles.

Your literally talking different centuries.

3 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said:

Love there are other lucid dreamers on here. And I love my cinematic dreams, often alien invasions or hiding out in different epochs in time, being pursued by baddies. And sometimes they last for years, so it's very disconcerting when I wake up. But perhaps my favourite dreams are playing football for Derby or England (the only teams my dream self turns out for). Everything I do works out exactly as intended - it's beautiful. I've scored many a hattrick for both.

Who's to say it's any less real than our waking lives? Perhaps I'm a brilliant Derby footballer who's currently dreaming I'm a fan on a forum?

I had a dream last night that I was being attacked by a vampire that turned into a killer tomato. First time and hopefully the last. Almost as scary as seeing Kevin Francis come on as a winger in 1990.

I've been in one of those boxes before and they were running at £1200 quid a match about 15 years ago.  Not sure who or how it's funded but a less expensive option will probably be required long term. A nice idea but not a long term proposition at over 40k a year.

1 minute ago, CongletonRam said:

And I have backed my argument up by saying that in the footballing climate in which we live; nobody really cares about lower league football. It's all about the Premier League of which historically; DCFC are the worst team in history making them the laughing stock up and down the country and further afield.

You really don't like losing an argument do you but you are embarrassing yourself now. I have strong suspicions your a Forest WUM the way your grasping at straws.  I'll leave you to it and the rest to take a bite out your continually stretched hypothesis. 

1 minute ago, CongletonRam said:

Oh but it does. Nobody wants a divisional record. End of.

You can clearly get over it, but many can't.

No it doesn't.  Your argument was Derby are the worst team in history and I've shown that to be historically b*******.  

Just now, CongletonRam said:

 

And there in backs up my point. Thank you.

It doesn't though does it.  Your arguing we're the worst side in history and that's patently b******* as I've shown