Gee SCREAMER !!

15 minutes ago, Marriot Ram99 said:

Depends on age I remember when I was in Greece a few middle age guys us from when we were actually a good side . Under 30s will not know us or know us because of Rooney or how s**** we were in that season.

I am going to be working in Vietnam soon for a year and my last Derby game before going will be Shrewsbury on Saturday, doubt many Vietnamese or Asian people will know much about Derby.An Italian kid when I was teaching in Italy did know of us but only because of Rooney, the young kids in Italy are starting to talk about Man City now, talking to the kids abroad you can see how trends change.

I blame Blackburn for this. 

1 minute ago, CongletonRam said:

Trust me, it really is. People remember the big winners, and certainly the most unwanted record.

It's still regularly mentioned by British commentators in Premier League games. It's a monkey on our backs that will simply never go away.

Ask yourself why on this very forum there is a new thread almost every season made discussing the hope that a team will actually break that unwanted record.

That's human nature.  Nobody wants a divisional worst record.  However historically, it is not the worst team record.  Historically wise, Derby are one of 19 clubs too have won 2 more more titles and are 13th most successful if you include runner up positions.

Derby are the 13th best team over 140 years of the English league who had one really bad season which broke no records for the lowest point total overall.

Guess I can live with that.

2 minutes ago, CongletonRam said:

The Premier League is the most watched sports league in the world.

Derby County are the worst team in the most watched league in the world, therefore making them the worst team in history in their eyes.

I've lived over the other side of the world for 25 years, and football really doesn't exist outside of the Premier League.

You can take your Loughborough and Doncaster, but nobody really cares. They are non existent.

You go to any country in the world and are asked who you support and say Derby County, and they will likely reply with a jibe about their pathetic record in that 2007/2008 season.

Whether people care on not is irrelevant for the purpose of this argument.  They'd be wrong. Doncaster certainly exist.  I've seen them play.

I'd assume all these people on the other side of the world have also seen the Jim Smith side which ripped Arsenal, Man Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool a new one on a pretty regular basis.  3 in a row against Liverpool if memory serves, so I doubt one dog s*** singular season is their only abiding memory of Derby County.

2 minutes ago, CongletonRam said:

Which bit are they wrong about?

Derby being the worst team in history, or Derby being footballs standing joke?

Well that would both.  There not the worst team, so can't be a standing joke 

1 minute ago, CongletonRam said:

You ask any fans which team has the lowest points total and the answer would be Derby.

Nobody really cares for lower league football bar those fans supporting those teams.

Derby County Football Club are the worst club team in footballing history and quite rightly, the standing joke for all of the footballing fraternity. That is one record that we have to live with.

It seems however that some are more bothered about losing face over the possibility of not getting promoted this season.

They're not though are they.  As I've just shown.

I couldn't give a s*** what other fans say, they'd be wrong as I'd advise them. 

9 minutes ago, Comrade 86 said:

Argh! They're going to do it again, aren't they? The Boks will roll right over us, then do to the Kiwis what they did immediately before the tourney. They are absolutely brutal in the contact and there's nobody left who can even remotely match them up front. The bomb squad does its work again 😵

I expected they would.  I also expected Ireland to be there as well.  I think they would have been if they didn't get such a penalty happy ref at the scrum and had started taking shorter lineouts from the off.

2 hours ago, CongletonRam said:

Forget the clubs history, the lowest points total was ANY clubs history.

I hear it mentioned in one form or another on an almost weekly basis and it happened donkeys years ago.

If Derby failed to achieve promotion, no big deal. There's always next season. It would hardly send shock waves among the footballing fraternity like that 11 points total most certainly did.

 

The lowest points total was 8.  Loughborough and Doncaster, both in Division 2.  Even with 3 points for a win Doncaster would have only matched Derbys 11.  The also have the record of 34 for most defeats in a season at a later date.

2 hours ago, CongletonRam said:

So what. Hardly a big stat is it. I didn't know the stat, and I dare to say that most Rams fans wouldn't be aware of it either. It's one of those useless stats that people don't really care about.

I'm aware mate.  When time spent in this league has been so limited over 140 years, it has neon lights on.

Ahh.. Good old Crewe.  If I had a pound for every time we'd beat them I'd have no pounds.  Not a bogey team more a full on flu. 

9 minutes ago, PistoldPete said:

Well even here there is for me evidence of bias. People have talked about Israel's "indiscriminate " killing of civilians.  That is nonsense. The harsh reality of war is that civilians always end up as casualties. But they are not targeted (as Hamas did with their attacks). You cannot compare it as being a like for like, as if one was as bad as the other.  


 

What I saw last night as people were forced out of their homes en masse then obliterated during their 'safe passage 'window would suggest otherwise very strongly.

36 minutes ago, oomarkwright said:

Anyone watching this on ppv? I'm listening on Talksport. Not really bothered who wins but it's interesting entertainment. 

I was given the choice of watching this or shaving my scrotum with a rusty bic.

The nurse has just called me in for my stitches and tetanus. So I'll have to leave it there.

2 hours ago, TigerTedd said:

Unfortunately you’re not wrong. I love derby, and I’ll always be a derby boy. But I’m glad I live in Derbyshire.

I go out in derby occasionally, and it’s crap. My daughters about to reach the age of misadventure, and I wonder where she’s going to have her misadventures.

I suspect she’ll just end up staying at home with her mates and a bottle of gin. Which as a dad I’m very pleased about. But that seems very boring compared to nights at Zanzi, D&E, Time, the Pig and Truffle, the Bless, Union 1, Blue note (I know that’s still there, but it’s probably s*** now, everything else is).

Oh nostalgia. I’d say she’ll end up drinking diamond white on the park, but kids don’t even do that anymore. 

I remember these as a cinema, Pink Cocunut and Paradise.  The fact you were going to these as their later incarnations and you have a daughter about to start going out makes me feel depressingly old.  The Blue Note is still alright to be honest if there's good live band on. It's packed.

Derby was a brilliant night out till about 1999, particularly on a packed all dayer on Sadler Gate on a bank holiday. After that it slowly became the load of b******* it is today.

Poor lineout first half, a certain try blocked on the line somehow and what was probably a New Zealand red card for high shoulder challenge not even carded costs Ireland.

Derby was very much turned into a craphole with the Westfield, an obsession with University accommodation and a council who closed the glasshouses in Markeaton meaning there is not a bloom to be seen in the summer.  They've also wasted hundreds of thousands on waterfalls that don't work and pointless steel ring modern art .

A craphole by decision making.

8 minutes ago, CongletonRam said:

 Absolutely. Why are so many (actually most posters on this very thread) calling for our managers head. It's ludicrous.

We've just drew with Cheltenham who are bottom and totally abject with our 'coach' advising the game plan was too stick it wide to avoid their devastating midfield getting hold off the ball.  We're mid table in a crap league and he's wasted the money we had for an attacking option on some donkey who can't trap a bag of cement never mind get goals. We've also won one league game in front of our own fans this season with November on the horizon and 2 in 8 months.

Apart from that I have no idea.

2 hours ago, EtoileSportiveDeDerby said:

What has always puzzled me is why the UN is absent. Take Cyprus, there is a no man's land border separating northern Cyprus from the south. Why can't they have something like this around Gaza. Israel have made Gaza a 21miles long prison for years. Hamas are a proxy for the Iran nutters as I understand it. Two wrongs have never made a right, simple as that. As several posters have said it is one hell of a s*** show.

I realised exactly how powerless the UN was during the conflict in the Balkans and the assistance mission in Rwanda.

Saunders was quick. Still remember him burning  Paul Parkers arse when he turned him.  Marriott was quick when played in the proper way.  Tommy Johnson was quick but then had average end product.

21 minutes ago, CongletonRam said:

Yes, you're correct. His career does suggest that he could do something at this level.

We have players that we all think could do and should do more, but when you actually break the squad down; the stats do suggest that the team isn't necessarily as good as what we think they should or even could be.

I cannot identify a player that has done anything of significance prior to joining Derby.

I want to believe in this squad, and I do but the stats don't point me to a team that should necessarily be challenging for a place in the top 2 or even top 4. 

I think Warne has done a decent job taking into account everything he is trying to install into the club at a delicate time with a new owner and reading constant threads wanting Warne out is driving me mad.

you could say that about any squad we've had in the last 20 years though.  How many of any squad we had in the championship had the majority of their careers in the top flight.  Non I can think of bar Bent, maybe Ledley and Weimann when he signed and probably none of the 13/14 squad.  They were all lower end SPL or perennial mid table championship players under Clough/Mac 1.

The team we have now has far more experience of higher level football than League 1, than our championship sides had of football in a higher division and they were pushing for promotion for 6 years. 

3 minutes ago, i-Ram said:

It’s a bit like Platoon on here tonight. Is it safe to reveal myself?

5 hours ago, Sheepinthedales said:

Loved him apart from the bitter end. Felt he really got the club, the fans and worked his rear end off during what must have been an almost impossible environment. But something about the way he scarpered when it was clear the Kirchner deal was up the swanny and the ties to Stretford, Cook. Dunno, might just be me

It isn't

3 hours ago, Gisby said:

Perhaps we should chop the Astra in for …  I don’t know? … say a DeLorean? … that went well didn’t it? #becarefulwhatyouwishfor 🤷‍♂️

Lovely.  We can go back in time to get two defenders to put their foot through the ball in 2014, or back to the 12 months we spent 12 million quid on Anya, Butterfield and Blackman on 4 year deals.  We could even stop Frank starting a play off final with a bloke who can't get a game at Burton as our sole attacking option for an hour.

Think this is a fab idea.

20 hours ago, cannable said:

Who would’ve ever thought there’d be a time in my life where I’d take John Eustace over Wayne Rooney in a heartbeat…

Thinking about it actually, Eustace was miles better for us as a player than Rooney 😂

The same Rooney who berated Marriott for giving up on an overhit through ball on his debut, then came back the following season looking like Buster Bloodvessel. He could only manage 20 mins before almost passing out with exhaustion and costing us goals.  The Blackburn match was my favourite.

1 hour ago, ram59 said:

Will we see Rooney come shopping at PP during the January transfer window?

No. He'll have stepped down by then after an 'All for one, one for all' speech' stating he want's some family time before moving to Auckland to manage some random Kiwi team on 100k a week.

Fornah watching and marking no bugger there.

Not a yellow.  He turned round and blocked him.