Finch

Prefer liquidation than paying £5-6 never mind £5-6 million for something as outrages as Middlesbrough claim 

The idea is that the preferred bidder would provide funding until the deal is done. Which is quite a commitment if EFL will not approve the insolvency plan. We needed EFL approval and they didn't give it. Disingenuous for them to say there wasn't a preferred bidder.    

Open court please and let’s see all the information!

I enjoyed Derbys performance to be honest we played football throughout 
obviously Grabban could / should have been sent of for the challenge on Thompson’s stomach and definitely  should have been with at least two more challenges from behind whilst on a booking but the ref didn’t get do his job probably that said the bounce of the ball dropped for him and he scored followed by a break away goal once we were pushing plenty of bodies forward. We should have scored through Lawrence and could easily have done in the second half but the bounce of the ball didn’t go our way until we actually were given our second penalty of the season which was well taken. Morrison doesn’t seem to actually help us a great deal does he as he looks slow and the speed of our play drops when he is in possession that said I think the sending off was harsh and not in the same league compared to the Grabban one.
special mention to the notts forest goalkeeper who appears to need some help which should have come from the refereee firstly he should have been booked for standing in front of the penalty spot for so long booked for being a fool after we scored should have been booked further up field following that and should have been booked after the final whistle one out of four bookings was a lucky result for him and what is it about small ginger haired people the red one today expressed his desire to never be invited to anything and comes across as a complete well you know what.
considering we have a few old professionals and a load of academy kids we looked very decent without having obviously a goal scorer on the books - forest get the points but they should probably be a bit concerned because they didn’t deserve them.

There’s competitive winding up / sledging and then there is cheating - different things .. that mouthy ginger lad held his hand to his face .. he was lying in order to get an opponent booked. That’s is pure dirt and should not be allowed in the game. For me fake hands to faces and feigning injury should be straight red. I’m serious. This is sport, you just don’t do it. 
Samba assaulted Lawrence off the ball, Lawrence retaliated. The rules probably say yellow for both. Samba has no excuse at all. Lawrence as captain might have done better but when adrenaline is high these things happen. 

This is the first time where it hasn’t really bothered me loosing to the red dogs, of course it’s not nice but we have much bigger issues ahead. Really annoyed with Samba’s behaviour though, surely it had to be a second yellow, disgraceful. Anyway we go on ?

For me it’s blindingly obvious. The EFL has failed in its duty as a governing body.
Mel Morris gambled, failed, and ran out of money. We might have soldiered on with him but Covid threw petrol on the glowing embers. 
 
The EFL however have pursued clubs that breach FFP as if they were pariahs and cheats when in fact they were just clubs with funds trying to compete with the half dozen parachute clubs with so much money following their fall from the prem that they have budgets vastly different from other clubs in the league. FFP and P+S were never anything to do with fairness. 
 
The EFL has been limp when selling rights to broadcasters which hasn’t helped the finances of the championship but has been antagonistic in the extreme towards anyone who has the temerity to question its competence.
When it has been called on to show leadership it has vacillated, dithered, acted to preserve its own status and power rather than the clubs it is supposed to represent. It is riven with self interested groups and hasn’t an iota of sportsmanship in its rotting corpse. It’s lack of professionalism in presenting cases in dispute has at times been laughable, preferring to rely on power and pomposity rather than fact and reason. 
 
In my opinion it needs disbanding forthwith. 

Three parties have made offers, any one of which would allow the club to exit administration with a substantial payment to creditors.
These offers need clarity, that the claim by Boro and the potential claim by Wycombe do not qualify as Football Creditors.
The football creditor rule is not defined in the EFL regulations, it is part of the Articles of Association of the Football League Limited, of which all clubs are minority shareholders (the golden share).
The football creditor rule is in Article 48, which clearly defines what constitutes a football creditor, copied below from Companies House.
The rule clearly states that it is to cover payments of "debts due". How possibly, can an unproven, unquantified claim such as Boro's be consider a debt due?
If the EFL is suggesting that any claim by a football club or employee, which is unproven, should be classified as a football creditor it would create mayhem. And, bona fide football creditors with debts due, and other preferential and unsecured creditors would lose out as a result.
The EFL can't have this both ways. If they choose to say Article 48 does not qualify Boro's claim as a football creditor the EFL are suggesting they might be sued by Boro.
However, if they choose to say that Article 48 should be interpreted (which is a wild stretch) in a way that Boro should be classed as a football creditor then it is almost certain that the EFL would be sued by the Administrators and the creditors including genuine football creditors, and HMRC for their easily quantified losses. 
The EFL also risk being sued under section 994 of the companies act for acting prejudicially against the interests of a minority shareholder of the football league ie. DCFC.
We need to apply pressure on the EFL to get off the fence, see that their actions alone are preventing the Administrators from getting a deal agreed. 
Article 48 says that Boro's claim cannot be a football creditor and the EFL must state that and stop this nonesense.
"48         FOOTBALL CREDITORS
48.1      Where a Member Club defaults in making any payment due to any of the following persons, 
the Member  Club ('Defaulting  Club')  shall be subject to such penalty  as the Board may decide 
and subject also to Article 48.2:
48.1.1        The League, The FA Premier League and the Football Association;
48.1.2        any of the Pension Schemes;
48.1.3        any Member Club and any Club of The FA Premier League;
48.1.4        any holding company  of The League and any subsidiary  company  of that holding 
company;
48.1.5        any sums due to any full-time employee or former full-time employee of the Member 
Club by  way  of arrears  of remuneration  up to the date on which that contract  of employment is 
terminated. This excludes for these purposes all and any claims for redundancy,   unfair   or  
wrongful   dismissal   or  other   claims   arising   out   of  the termination  of  the  contract  
or  in  respect  of  any  period  after  the  actual  date  of termination;
48.1.6        any  sums  due  to  the  Professional  Footballers  Association  in  repayment  of  
an interest  free loan together with such reasonable  administration and legal costs as have been 
approved by the Board;
48.1.7        The Football Foundation;
48.1.8        The Football Conference Limited trading as "the National League";
48.1.9        The Northern Premier League Limited;
48.1.1O      The Isthmian League Limited;
48.1.11      The Southern League Limited;
48.1.12      Any member club of the League or organisations listed in Articles 48.1.8 to 48.1.11 
inclusive;
48.1.13      Any County Football Association affiliated to The Football Association; and
48.1.14      Any Leagues  affiliated to The Football Association  and any clubs affiliated to any 
County Football Association recognised by The Football Association.
48.2      Subject to the provisions of Articles 48.3 and 48.4, the Board shall apply any sums 
standing to the  credit  of  the  Pool  Account  which  would  otherwise  be  payable  to  a  
Defaulting  Club,  in discharging  the  creditors  in Article  48.1.  As  between  the Football  
Creditors,  the  priority  for payment shall be in accordance with the order in which those 
Football Creditors are listed in Article 48.1.
48.3      If,  having  discharged  all Football  Creditors  in  any  preceding  class  of  Football 
 Creditor  (as
· required by Article 48.2) the sum then available is not suffident to discharge in full the 
Football Creditors listed in Articles 48.1.1, 48.1.2 or 48.1.4 the Board will decide the 
allocation.
48.4      If,  having  discharged  all Football  Creditors  in  any  preceding  class  of  Football 
 Creditor  (as required by Article 48.2) the sum then available is not sufficient to discharge in 
full the Football Creditors listed in Article 48.1.3, 48.1.5, 48.1.12, 48.1.13 or 48.1.14 the sum 
will be allocated pro rata amongst the creditors of the same class.
Note - Clubs are reminded that any assignment of future entitlements from the pool account are 
subject to Article 45 and this must be brought to the attention of the other party. Furthermore 
assignments must be in legal form and registered with the office. Assignments are given priority 
according to the date and time of registration."

I'm sure Rooney will only leave if his squad is ripped to pieces before his eyes - I am fairly convinced that will not happen and he will stay.

Rooney is the only thing keeping this club together. Losing him now would be devastating. 

I don't think I'd be ready for Rooney leaving to be added on top of the already heartbreaking situation we find ourselves in.
The compensation money would probably fund us until the end of the season at least, but would the club be as appealing if he goes? Sponsors, potential owners, players... all cited Rooney as a pulling factor for us. If he goes, do players decide they'll leave after all? Does the amount buyers are willing to pay drop?
I've seen enough this season with Rooney to tell me I want him to be involved with Derby for a long, long time. He's my favourite manager since McClaren 9 years ago, and if he keeps us up he'd definitely eclipse that. Maybe he would still even if we don't stay up.
I thought that if the worst comes to worst, and we end up with a phoenix club, Wayne and his American friends might want to buy us. He wouldn't manage us, but at least he's involved.
To summarise, I really do not want him to go to Everton. Not sure if I made that clear.

Liquidation feels inevitable 

Liquidation seems the likely outcome.

Liquidation seems the likely outcome.

Liquidation seems the likely outcome.

If we had fined him the six weeks pay that Lawrence and Bennett got we would ultimately saved money - strange world 

Cant believe this is still going on .
Keogh is Damn Captain that alone made him have EXTRA responsabilities ,should be sacked was sacked the fact he has won compo is unbelievable and down to Mel mistake of keeping the others .
Lawrence  Should have been sacked for god sake he RAN OFF leaving someone in a car that could have caught fire .
Bennett      Same as above 
Mel - Shocking handling of not sacking them all and has lead to Keogh winning his compo by keeping the younger 2 players . Mel was totally right to sack Keogh but he should have sacked them all . 
The whole sorry mess is still a mess and Keogh deserves NOTHING today in the sound of applause . 
 
 

It’s possible to be of the opinion that Mel Morris was stupid in his handling of this situation but that Richard Keogh is still a nob.

I don’t see how Morris can sleep at night having run us into the ground not paying HMRC I mean that is scandalous a total disgrace and then to walk away it’s beyond words it really is 
the amount of people and there families this has affected due to admin not just livelihoods but there’s thousands of fans of this club who no doubt like myself am really struggling coming to terms with our situation …shame on you Mel Morris we trusted you ?

But promoted clubs need to spend to compete in the PL. If they got relegated into the Championship in their first PL season and didn't have parachute payments they'd be stuck with a bunch of players on high wages and got out of business.
The source of the problem is the Premier Leagues never ending greed and 'profit above all else nature'. Football died in England in 1992.

Better team won. Our centre backs constantly dragged our to fullback positions who were caught up the pitch constantly 

Pathetic tactics and team selection. Rooney starting to believe his own hype. Awful,awful performance from the 10th min onwards. So many laboured players tonight. Morrison no, Jos no, Forsyth no and Shinnie no. When ebosele gets the ball the crowd are up on their feet. No other player gives that and he is left on the bench for ravel Morrison who has done nothing since game 5. Awful tonight.

Do we actually practise defending? Because them 2 goals were absolutely shocking defending , max bird looked at their player free 3 times for the last goal and still lost him , my god pre school stuff again 

Must admit I wouldn't be unhappy about no international breaks. Waste of time in any case, as they were essentially brought in to increase the prospect of England winning a trophy. They've still won sweet F A since 1966. 

One of the best seasons ever for going away, was that promotion campaign under Arthur.
Still remember besides the football, trips to the likes of York, can’t remember nothing about the game in truth, just being shunted into the station after the game, the coppers deciding to treat us like animals, so we behaved like it back. Several hundred baa,baa’s as they herded us through onto the train, with the end result of the old station doors hanging off the hinges and everyone pi$$ing themselves as the train left the station.
Football supporting was bloody fun being the biggest club in the league, taking over stadiums (if you could call some that, who remembers the many away ends that were just open concrete terraces), out-singing locals, none of the premier league trappings. 
Next year could be fun.