DavesaRam

Perhaps you should have yourself a glass full of reality.

And yet again an absolute twit of a ref but we are losing because we prat about at the back.

And yet again an absolute twit of a ref but we are losing because we prat about at the back.

And yet again an absolute twit of a ref but we are losing because we prat about at the back.

So the only free kick we get for ages was when Sibley was about to shoot.

So the only free kick we get for ages was when Sibley was about to shoot.

Come on Sky. “strong challenge” and “leaving his calling card” - the English is “foul”.

Come on Sky. “strong challenge” and “leaving his calling card” - the English is “foul”.

Its a bit like clearing your garden of weeds. After a while it’s full of them again.

It’s the whole point. The fact that it’s wrong winds them up more. It’s hard for them to counter that chant as they have to somehow explain that it’s the Black Country not Birmingham, by which time you’ve fallen asleep. It’s a bit like calling For*st, Notts For*st on purpose as we do.

Ah Tamworth, a town who's most notable contribution to history is being quite near to Drayton Mannor Park...

Yeah I had a pheasant pie like that once

Yes. But it is actually possible to pay instalments on time. Most people do.

Yes. But it is actually possible to pay instalments on time. Most people do.

This wasn't supposed to be a "Aren't we hard done by/the EFL have got it in for us all ways up" post. I listed the poor decisions to maybe explain the amount of outrage at such a harsh punishment. In reality he was always going to get red carded retrospectively, whether the EFL are out to get us or not. And yes, we will see more offences against Derby than fans of other clubs will, but that is true of any club's supporters. I don't think Fozzy's stamp was deliberate, but it could easily have been, and is certainly easy to perceive that way. How many other retrospective red cards have there been, especially to players from other clubs? That would be an interesting perspective. But you have to admit that we haven't had the rub of the green with referee decisions of late. And I asked about the alleged Joswiack incident because I didn't see it, and it hasn't been mentioned by anyone else, either on here or on any other social media as far as I am aware, so I simply would like to know about it. IF it happened, then it does tend to prove your point about seeing what we want to see.

This wasn't supposed to be a "Aren't we hard done by/the EFL have got it in for us all ways up" post. I listed the poor decisions to maybe explain the amount of outrage at such a harsh punishment. In reality he was always going to get red carded retrospectively, whether the EFL are out to get us or not. And yes, we will see more offences against Derby than fans of other clubs will, but that is true of any club's supporters. I don't think Fozzy's stamp was deliberate, but it could easily have been, and is certainly easy to perceive that way. How many other retrospective red cards have there been, especially to players from other clubs? That would be an interesting perspective. But you have to admit that we haven't had the rub of the green with referee decisions of late. And I asked about the alleged Joswiack incident because I didn't see it, and it hasn't been mentioned by anyone else, either on here or on any other social media as far as I am aware, so I simply would like to know about it. IF it happened, then it does tend to prove your point about seeing what we want to see.

I think the main problem is the incredibly consistent levels of inconsistency by the match officials which has been obvious for years. So on Saturday Fozzy could well have been given a red card there and then, and we wouldn't then have had that wonderful through ball to Tom. What is causing all the outrage were all the other instances of foul play which went totally unpunished. 
So in order, we had:
the Forest right back kicking out at Louie Sibley as he ran back from our first attack. Not just a clip of the heel, a full blown swing where the Forest player's leg went out at 70 degrees. It was deliberate violent conduct. Red Card. Worrall fouling Louie Sibley as he was bout to be running through on goal. Deliberately preventing a clear goal-scoring opportunity. Red Card. Worrall deliberately handling the ball to prevent it going to one of two Derby players in the area. Preventing a clear goal scoring opportunity. Red Card and Penalty. Worrall elbowing Ravel Morrison on the back of his head. Violent conduct. Red Card. Worrall - a succession of fouls, wrestling downs and trips, several in the penalty area. At least two yellow cards. Red Card. All-in-wrestling on Curtis Davis in the penalty area. Penalty. Red or yellow card. This is all in just one match. 
Then we go back just one week and we have Jagielka getting booked for a clear, successful tackle where he got the ball. Then we have Ikpeazu splitting Jag's face open with an elbow. Definite red card, but not even a free kick is given.
All of this from just two games, yet we are seeing these kind of instances and injustices all the time.
Incidentally a colleague of mine, a Tree, reckons that Joswiack studded one of their players on Saturday. Anyone else know about this?

It happened to Lionel Pickering too. 
A bit of empathy doesn't hurt. 

That'll do - its against Forest !!! 

The idea of losing the flow of information from the club if they speak out against the club in anyway would be a real concern if there was any flow of information at all. As it stands, there is actually virtually nothing to lose.

I think the main problem is the incredibly consistent levels of inconsistency by the match officials which has been obvious for years. So on Saturday Fozzy could well have been given a red card there and then, and we wouldn't then have had that wonderful through ball to Tom. What is causing all the outrage were all the other instances of foul play which went totally unpunished. 
So in order, we had:
the Forest right back kicking out at Louie Sibley as he ran back from our first attack. Not just a clip of the heel, a full blown swing where the Forest player's leg went out at 70 degrees. It was deliberate violent conduct. Red Card. Worrall fouling Louie Sibley as he was bout to be running through on goal. Deliberately preventing a clear goal-scoring opportunity. Red Card. Worrall deliberately handling the ball to prevent it going to one of two Derby players in the area. Preventing a clear goal scoring opportunity. Red Card and Penalty. Worrall elbowing Ravel Morrison on the back of his head. Violent conduct. Red Card. Worrall - a succession of fouls, wrestling downs and trips, several in the penalty area. At least two yellow cards. Red Card. All-in-wrestling on Curtis Davis in the penalty area. Penalty. Red or yellow card. This is all in just one match. 
Then we go back just one week and we have Jagielka getting booked for a clear, successful tackle where he got the ball. Then we have Ikpeazu splitting Jag's face open with an elbow. Definite red card, but not even a free kick is given.
All of this from just two games, yet we are seeing these kind of instances and injustices all the time.
Incidentally a colleague of mine, a Tree, reckons that Joswiack studded one of their players on Saturday. Anyone else know about this?

The idea of losing the flow of information from the club if they speak out against the club in anyway would be a real concern if there was any flow of information at all. As it stands, there is actually virtually nothing to lose.

Bit harsh expecting there to be any chance of a repeat to be fair - he is 70 and it will be at least two years until we are in Europe - I know Real are on a bit of a lean patch at the moment, but us managing to set up a 72 year old three times is a bit of a stretch ?

Branko Strupar. Scored our first goal of the new millennium on his 2nd appearance. He knew where the net was. 
Gutted that the poor bloke was always injured, his goal per game ratio was tops, when fit.