nottingram

3 minutes ago, David Graham Brown said:

Did the Bolton centre half have some sort of force field surrounding him, how many times did he stand with his foot on the ball, and no one put a tackle on him? I feared he could just walk the ball into the net if he’d wanted to.

Looked a very deliberate decision to mark all of his passing options and see if he could figure it out from there.

The last thing we wanted to be doing was give him an easy pass to Sheehan. 

6 hours ago, 1of4 said:

Don't the gumps rent their present hovel from Nottingham city council? Is the council planning to build the gumps a new council house to replace the slum. Wouldn't it need to be in Nottingham, or can they still get assisted rent on a building outside the city limits.

But with Notts city council currently having more money issues than the gumps. I can't see them planning a new building any time soon.

Believe there is some sort of argument over the rent. They pay £250k and the council want £1m. Now lots of posturing on both sides. To me £1m seems cheap, and is probably no more than Forest pay that bloke off Gladiators to moan about referees for them. 

They’d never win a vote again but if the council wanted to start balancing the books the land that shed sits on would be worth an absolute fortune. 

What’s this I see about a possible new stadium in Toton? Is there nowhere in Nottingham they can move to?

Not really sure how to feel about this. All clubs are pretty opportunistic when someone is going through trouble - can’t imagine we would’ve been too worried about picking up some of Reading’s players on the cheap in January but this feels more egregious.

Surely you cannot have other clubs owning a teams training ground? 

33 minutes ago, Srg said:

Cheating is cheating, but I do sympathise with not being able to spot this one (I had no clue either watching live), and the offside is up to his linesman. The sending off however... 

Yiadom’s first yellow was for an accumulation, in the first half he pulled someone back while already on a yellow which was given as a foul so he really had very little rope left by the second half. It’s two soft yellows in isolation, Hourihane plays for the second one but he does lunge in a little and if you are going to make 5 fouls in about an hour of football you’re asking for it really. 

I think the ref was quite swayed by the crowd though. Seemed to take a long time for him to get his card out once he’d blown up for a foul, on more than one occasion. 

Aim for the self confidence / deluded arrogance of Forest voting against the new deal benefitting EFL clubs. Hilarious.

14 minutes ago, cannable said:

*tin helmet on*
 

He’s provided midfield balance but would be a squad player if we were promoted 

Getting someone who can do what he can do and also be excellent on the ball would require some amazing recruitment and/or an awful lot of money.  

Fair play, deserves a lot of credit. Adams obviously a huge game changer, hopefully isn’t tempted to deviate from this set up even if we get a fit Nyambe / Elder / Forsyth unless they rotate in the centre back spots.

The wing backs need to be attacking players

What a super referee. Let the game flow and most importantly gave us every single decision.

This Leicester situation must also be worrying for them.

Knowing that even when they reach their rightful place in the Championship, the Premier League can still get them with points deductions. Could be the first team in a few years to drop in consecutive seasons if they don’t get it right.

11 hours ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

 

New profile picture confirmed

It’s a shame they haven’t been given a pound for every time one of their players has cried about a referee

What on earth is going on

Do enjoy it when they moan about referees given how they got promoted 

10 minutes ago, TheRamOfSwad said:

I do like him but I do get the impression he hates doing the pre and post match interviews and has started to resent them, which Is probably why he uses humour to make them interesting. I don't think he likes giving away what he might approaching the game etc and I think he doesn't like the fans perhaps thinking they know better and you can kinda tell cause when they boo he doesn't appreciate that either 

Not to over analyse it too much but actually thought it was a good post game interview the other day.

A few questions from Dom Dietrich made me squirm (in a good way, from not giving him an easy ride point of view) and Warne could’ve got arsey about them but didn’t. Didn’t really agree with what he said for most of it but would’ve been easy for him to not really engage with some of the questions that challenged him. 

25 minutes ago, Jourdan said:

No, I think it’s important to be realistic with where we are, what restrictions we have been under, how long down the line into the rebuild we are, and what we can realistically deliver with this squad week in, week out.

We’re in a position where trade offs are always likely. The irony is if we played entertaining football and were integrating the youngsters but were 10th, in its own way it would be derided. Warne and Clowes can’t really win.

I think it’s a case of recency bias that you want to suggest this brand of football is worse than what came before. It really isn’t. The fact you want to call Rooney’s football ‘compelling’ tells me that you are very entrenched here.

I would take games like MK Dons or Portsmouth last season, under Warne, than pretty much any of the dross served up at home this season, and we won neither. But we played attacking football with a plan and created lots of chances. Frustrating games but entertaining.

I can probably think of one game this season, Northampton, with a performance that comes close. 

So we can do it under Warne. The question is why we aren’t. He said it himself yesterday - we’ve not played well all season. He is honest 99% of the time to his credit but how does that reflect on him if he himself knows we are playing poorly and have done all year! It is literally his job for that not to happen!

21 minutes ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said:

Nah,mostly those who still haven't let him go,why would the rest of us be interested?

If we want to lament a manager who actually was both our manager and a bloody good one,let's talk about Stevie Mac,not someone who had a very poor record here both as an assistant and as temporary gaffer.

Dunno, you tell me, you brought him up.

Not wrong on McClaren though, wonder where we’d be if Mel hadn’t sacked him the first time and maybe even the second time. 

7 minutes ago, MadAmster said:

I've seen this comment a lot and it doesn't make sense to me. About as much sense as the folk on social media last night and this morning slating PW for playing a back 3 which was actually a back 4 of Nyambe (Wilson after Nyambe got injured), Nelson, Bradley and Cashin at left back.

Who else was going to play LB in a back 4 with Elder and Foz unavailable?

Made perfect sense to me. Criticise by all means, however, critique without offering an alternative is negativity for negativity's sake.

PW is getting stick for going with the back 4 most fans want. How else would YOU have structured a back 4 last night, one better than the choice he made?

The only alternative for a back 4 would have been Bradley on the bench, Nels and Cash in the middle and Sibley at left back... IMO, the  choice made was the best one.

He could have gone back 3 but that would have seen 90% of the fanbase on his back.

Sibley played LB regularly in a defence last season that barely conceded a chance never mind a goal.

But it’s not necessarily about him, can stick anyone who offers any sort of attacking threat there for all I care but breaking up the Nelson and Cashin partnership firstly for 3 at the back and now to shoehorn Bradley in so he doesn’t have to drop his marquee signing again, is crazy. Just no need. The back 4 last night was baffling.

1 hour ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said:

That was awful last night and more akin to a ping pong game between two blind men than a game of football.

I don't mind being direct,I don't mind constantly knocking it in from the wings but this game had neither and was basically tedious and boring.

A glimmer of hope was Gayle who showed some of those deft touches and lay offs not seen since Martin left...they were pointless however as none of our other players had the nous to actually put themselves in the region of where one of these lovely lay offs might actually be.

Amongst the others,Smith showed promise and looks far more championship than league 1 and Wilson put a shift in as,bizarrely,he was the main recipient of every pass to the wings instead of Mendez who had a very q game.

I'm a fan of warne,I like him and would still have him over the oft referenced manager who never was the manager Rosenior (whose football was equally tedious,just in a different way)but he needs to sort this out sharpish or we will be dropping like a stone before we know it.

Hard to believe we are second but still talking like this,we should be on a high not dreading the next game against port vale....we need a outstanding result there to put the confidence back into the team and the fans.

Rosenior is only “oft mentioned” these days by people who want to tell everyone how bad his football apparently was over and over again.

9 minutes ago, Srg said:

This run of being so poor from open play really coincided with going to a back 3. Admittedly, last night, we didn't play a back 3 but it left us with Cashin (arguably the best CB in the league) playing left back to accommodate Sonny Bradley who's shown absolutely zero to be worthy of doing that. In turn, you're breaking up a great partnership in Nelson and Cashin. We're left with having space in the full back positions, with only 1 fullback capable of using that space (Wilson) who we're playing further forward.

Just so many square pegs in round holes unnecessarily.

Entire back 4 of centre backs (ish, Nyambe is at best a very defensive full back), with a wing back playing in the front 3, at home to a team who haven’t won in 3 months. Surprise surprise we offer absolutely zero threat from open play. 

His justification for it after the game completely nonsense and if I was Sibley hearing it I’d be fuming. 

I seem to remember he started arsing around with a settled back 4 who looked very good last year as well. 

1 minute ago, Crewton said:

I'd like to highlight the performance of the referee and his "barely there" assistants as a contributing factor in the team's collapse. In his last 4 games, he'd handed out 25 yellow cards and 3 red cards. Last night, he booked Bradley for his first foul (which wasn't either a professional foul or a reckless tackle) after Charlton had committed 6 fouls already iirc. After that, it felt like nothing short of GBH would get a Charlton in the book. Well, they certainly tried hard to live down to that standard, but the ref wasn't interested. His indifference to their thuggery certainly contributed to that second half performance because, unlike against Stevenage, the players were completely knocked out of their stride by these tactics. It all made me wonder if the ref had been told that he'd been too free and easy with the cards of late and accordingly took a more hands off approach.

Particularly enjoyed him booking a player for time wasting in added time (and also not booking another who had a shot about 5 seconds after the whistle) and then blowing up on 8 minutes exactly.

Didn’t really matter of course and actually put us all out our misery, but did make me laugh. 

No open play attacking threat from any of the back 4 and a wing back in the front 3. Crazy.

Ridiculous Individual errors tonight almost make me feel sympathy for him but not sure I can muster it because you ask for them when you set up like that. Just absolutely nothing from open play which has been par for the course for a few weeks at home. 

All moot as he’s going nowhere but in a hypothetical world where his contract was up at the end of the season I’d be amazed if anyone would actively believe it should be renewed. Likewise if he walked tomorrow I doubt anyone would be too bothered. 

I didn’t agree with it but can see why he was hired. A 4 year contract though, just crazy. 

Sibley given his customary 60 mins to do something after a good performance before he’s dropped again then.

3 minutes ago, Eatonram said:

Two things I hate about losing. 
 

1 Well obviously we’ve lost, got no points, the table doesn’t look quite as good and the weekend feels a bit of a downer. 
 

2 The oh so predictable comments from the Warne Haters who all know better cos of their vast experience playing in the Sunday league or on Xbox. 

How many negative opinions do you have to post (on a forum designed for opinions) before you qualify as a Warne hater?

1 hour ago, duncanjwitham said:

That was certainly one endgame, but it was by no means a certain one.  I really hope we weren't banking on that as our only plan. 

Maybe we had some other accounting trickery lined up that we never saw play out.  There was plenty of potential value in the academy that we could have cashed in on if we hadn't been forced into flogging them on the cheap during admin - Ebosele, Ebiowei, Plange, Buchanan, Kellyman, Williams plus Cashin, Bird, Knight etc.

The bottom falling out of the market due to Covid the summer after Sibley, Bird and Knight established themselves was a bit of a killer. As was the Bielik knee injury just as we’d finally learned that our big purchases should have some sort of resale value.

There was some bad luck in there amongst the crazy way the club appeared to be run.