Stive Pesley

Not exactly precision finishing for any of them, but they all count.

5 goals in 3 appearances now - he's obviously doing something right

25 minutes ago, Tamworthram said:

Yes I know all that but if we've made a loss there is no corporation tax to reduce.

I'm not an accountant, so I stand to be corrected but can't losses be carried forward and used to offset against future profits, reducing the tax liability in subsequent years? That may not be it, but I feel sure there must be some financial benefit to the club in "giving away" shirt sponsorship to a charity, otherwise we are deliberately throwing income away when every penny counts

22 minutes ago, Tamworthram said:

Am I being dumb (again)? 
 

Why would there be a tax (corporation tax) bill if we made a loss? 

A UK business can make a charitable donation and claim tax relief on the donation. Either by deducting the value of the donation from the total profits before tax is calculated (reducing taxable profits), or by reducing the Corporation Tax it pays by an amount equal to the basic rate tax on the grossed-up value of the donation.

24 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said:

No I don't think so - we just didn't earn anything from a shirt sponsor last season,I doubt that counts as a donation in tax terms.

I think I've I remember we did that because we only got taking the piss offers to sponsor the shirt and the commercial decision was taken that it'd be better to have a big charity on there for nothing than accepting very lowball offers, making the sponsorship more valuable in future seasons.

Hmm - but realistically we could "give it away" to a charity or we could class it as a charitable donation and reduce our tax burden as a result. Which do you think the accountants of a cash-strapped large football club would recommend?

I grew up next door to a Convent on one side and a record shop on the other

One was HMV and the other was a Virgin Megastore

1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said:

I agree with the Quantuma money, but I suppose we also have to think that supposedly no other 'reputable' Administrators wanted to take the Club on, I'm not sure what would have happened in that case.

Quantuma was allegedly "specialists" in sports club administration weren't they? And they appeared to really struggle.

In which case it would be a fair bet that a common or garden insolvency practitioner would have been an even bigger debacle

I hadn't really thought much about the shirt sponsor being "given away" to the NSPCC, but presumably a commercial sponsor would be paying quite a lot of money (£100k+?) to be the main sponsor on the shirt of a club the size of Derby, so donating that spot to the NSPCC would count as a charitable donation and lower our tax bill?

If we don't go up, I can definitely see PW resigning. He has one job - get us out of this horrible sh**ty league. He's got a great track record in L1, and even in his 2 seasons here, he's had us consolidated in the play-off places for the majority of his tenure, so he clearly know what he's doing....to an extent

But he's obviously sick of the grief he gets from the vocal fans that hate him. Why would anyone put up with that when pretty much every other club in this league would snap his hand off. And with Rotherham likely coming back down, he's got a ready-made opportunity right there

I for one look forward to seeing which manager we replace him with that everyone can slag off to high heaven if we don't play like Brazil against a team of cloggers that's parked the bus

8 minutes ago, Archied said:

May break the affirmation addiction that’s infested society 🤷🏻‍♂️

On that matter I agree it would be no bad thing, but when you have bought a business which solely relies on that addiction, it certainly seems a counter-intuitive move to try and make it *less* engaging! 

What's that? You want me to get rid of the spambots?

Nah - how about I remove the like and retweet counts from your feed instead?

Another weird change that no one asked for, and on the face of it will surely lower user engagement rather than the intention of raising it

https://uk.pcmag.com/social-media/151344/elon-musk-twitter-will-remove-retweet-and-like-counts-from-feeds

Does this help lighten the mood?

If we don't make the automatics, and we don't win the play-offs then I hope we get rid of PW and replace him with a new manager who has us playing attractive football, regardless of the fact that this will see us routinely being turned over 1-0 to a last minute winner from an opposing team who have parked the bus for 93 minutes  - leaving us mid-table, but with excellent xG stats. 

Applications are open if anyone is interested

https://www.usajobs.gov/job/779261100

13 minutes ago, Jram said:

Do they have a dubious goals panel at that level? I’m almost certain Dananga stole that

You'd hope not - he was clearly a yard offside 

20 minutes ago, Gaspode said:

Not really appropriate for someone in her position - then again, I've long wished that someone would tell journaliists to 'go forth and multiply' when they start asking deliberately provocative questions.....

To be fair, she never said "jewish space lasers" were the cause. And she didn't know the Rothschilds were Jewish either

The best result would have been if they'd both lost but due to the vendetta against us, the EFL would never allow that

1 hour ago, CBX1985 said:

I don't know what alleged racist comments he may have made, but my concern is that - from listening to him on Saturday - his level of English is not overly strong

I remember in his early playing days with the Rams, I was in the Baltimore Diner with some mates, and a bloke came over to us and asked if we were Derby fans.

We said yes, and he said "thank god - come and say hello to Stefano Eranio. I've told my wife that I'd take him out on the town, because he lives next door, and he's not really settling in - but he can't speak English and it's excruciating. I don't know what else to do with him!"  😂

Cue 5 minutes of us shaking his hand and saying stuff  to him - him nodding blankly and shaking his head. Then we left the poor fellas to it!

https://twitter.com/BBCDerbySport/status/1765035169226904005

29 minutes ago, MadAmster said:

You seem to have missed that that was my point from the opening post

no not all - but you certainly seemed to have not read my post properly

34 minutes ago, i-Ram said:

I see the Tupperware guy is still coming on here regularly with updates on the pyramid scheme, I mean Bitcoin. Are there Bitcoiners on loads of forums letting simple folk know what they are missing out on I wonder?

It's definitely the 2020s version of the old joke - "how do you know someone is vegan?" 😂

To be fair though - there is a reason that most research points to the majority of BTC holders being millennials and Gen Z. 

We haven't exactly left them with a reliable future have we?

41 minutes ago, NottsRam77 said:

Some good discussion chaps, all very valid points 

The truth is there is a growing desire by many nations to move away from their reliance and peg to the dollar. 
 

Any south American country and the like and and and your people are basically being held over a barrel 

seemingly its happening already

 
see exhibit A 

 

Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa

How long before the US is involved in some sort of war with the other 4 😬

8 minutes ago, ramsbottom said:

Our record for lowest ever points tally will never be broken.

I used to think that, but if the extrapolated predictions that @MadAmster makes come true - they are unlikely to pick up any more points this season. Especially as they seem to have lost the fans and the changing room is also gone. So they'd finish on 13 - which I think was the previous low points record that Sunderland had? 

On that basis - it's still highly unlikely our record will be broken, but I wouldn't say impossible. I think we may see a few more teams crumble under the financial pressure of expectation as the Prem gets sillier and sillier in terms of money

12 minutes ago, Comrade 86 said:

Hopefully that earns him some more significant gametime. He's a prospect alright, though I think it'll be after the next pre-season that we see him in and around the senior matchday squads. He's only recently turned 18 and if he continues to work hard, he really ought to have a good career in the men's game ahead of him, with a little luck, beginning with us in the Championship next season.

Feels like a long time ago that we'd have 15 year olds making the first team squad. Now we have 18 year olds who aren't even first choice strikers at the non-league club we've loaned them to being our "hopes for the future" 😂

I guess the real trouble comes when the big financial institutions start leveraging their BTC holdings to generate returns?

It's a place in Lincoln... apparently