Derby blood

No chance of Rooney being sacked or walking this season. When the going gets tough, Wayne gets tougher. He is utterly determined to succeed at Derby and I think that he will.

You're no problem - you're not too tall and you watch the match! 
I'm just joking about, B4, I expect to stand at away games. I just wish I was a bit taller. 

Well most of block 4 has gone and still selling really well and been give just over 2k and plus it is on sky I dont think we are doing to badly.

As mentioned on the Huddersfield thread I missed the game down to Our son being born. I’m glad to say he’s home well and healthy! This will be his first game he will be watching along a lifetime of fun and pain that is the normal of following Derby County. 
 
Also had my Father purchase a Derby County baby grow just before my Mrs tried to slip any Villa stuff on him (The same was applied with my other lad) ?
 
Ps thank you for all the messages and well wishes on here ???

Good on you with your support (I mean it), but I'm not sure what he has done to garner such loyalty.  I can't see a single thing worthwhile that he has done and the debacle of the 'meeting' just adds to my fears.
No ground, not paying HMRC, under embargo, survived relegation by the skin of our teeth, not allowed to bring in players (maybe a money issue not just embargo), the club having no real identity apart from being associated with problems.  It is awful, awful, awful
if we were owned by a foreigner the pitchforks would be out long ago.

I don't think Mel and DCFC come out of it too bad.
It is concerning that while Mel says that he wants to sell us to an appropriate custodian, we could have ended up with absolutely bloody any old clown with Samuelson brokering the deal.
I'm more concerned what this has raised about just how dirty the money in the game is. I suppose that answers the question "who in their right mind would buy a football club when football clubs famously never make any money?".
With that in mind, and without doing too much hand-wringing, are there any legitimate buyers for the club who don't have an aspect of criminality? How far does this go in the game? What owners of any football club don't have a grubby element buried deep in their structure?
Mel has not done good things for this club, but at the very least I believe he is 100% legitimate with his funds. I despair for the takeover. We need one badly after the shocking way we've been run but I'm now quite concerned about jumping out of this frying pan and landing in the fire.

Interesting isn’t it, the timeline on the Lampard announcement. Playing on the Radio as the representatives of Mr X are driven to the club for their first meeting with Morris.
Someone wrote on here a week or two back, can’t remember who but someone on my credible list - not you Big Trav ? - that he was under the impression another manager was destined for the hot seat, but there was a sudden unexpected shift to the unproven Lampard. I wonder if Mel thought that Lampard’s involvement and ‘vision’ might make the Club and the investment that tiny bit more attractive to Mr X?

Except when we charge away fans. ?

I agree the main reason will be the hurdles in the way of actually buying a ticket, it should be easy - at the end of the day the club should want the finances - why make it so tricky to get hold of a ticket? I bet there are no other clubs making it so hard to pay. Another shot in the foot by the club for whatever reason.

opening the ticket office would be a start and selling Season Tickets again.
Lot`s of the Older generation just dont want the Faff of online ticketing on a MBM basis.
They like to have a Season Ticket or failing that, like to call into the ticket office and buy an actual ticket!
In my local in Ripley there are at least 5 DCFC fans over the age of 65 who simply will not go again until they can physically go to the ground and buy a ticket!

Assuming the EFL arent already aware of the content of the reporting piece, I would imagine this will further dent our relationship with them, whilst Mel is in charge.
Here we are trying to persuade them to let us sign more players, not a chance now.
Just 1 normal day, it's all we ask.

Mel comes out of it, albeit not squeaky clean, at least with not enough dirt on him to pile in on him (and consequently us) going forward. At least not based on this documentary. At least not for any outsiders. 
However, as a Derby fan, we know Mel is a smart man. You can't tell me that he didn't know what he was getting into when he engaged with Samuelson. He had this fake Chinese takeover, although how much he knew of Mr.X's proposed criminality I'm not sure and then followed it up with the BZI take over - again involving Samuelson. I'm led to believe he didn't have anything to do with the Erik Alonso takeover, but there were many similarities to things mentioned in the documentary and that proposed charade. I wouldn't at all be surprised if he potentially had a hand in that one too.  
Mel Morris is doing almost everything I expected we would be protected from by having a local investor. I thought at the very least we would be in safe hands during his tenure and he would only sell to someone he trusted. I don't buy that anymore. I can't buy that anymore, because Samuelson was a known entity and yet he's given him two, potentially three, chances to sell our club to his clients. I mean, a middle-eastern news outlet knew he was dodgy as duck and decided to set this whole thing up. For me, Mel can't claim not to know what he was about and what getting into business with him meant. I think that's the thing that saddens me the most. 
I know most of us on here knew Samuelson was a bit of a deviant, but not to such levels. He still claims to be above the law despite openly discussing fake passports and hiding criminality from the EFL to get them in charge to clean money. It's absolutely outrageous. It's obvious that people in the game, however, did. Ultimately, the selling owner doesn't care as long as he gets his money and it's the fans that pay. I think that's where I am with Mel at the moment. The future of this club is in the hand's of a desperate man willing to accept the advances of anyone that will give him and escape route. We are simply voiceless in this transaction and as a fan base really can only hope that the EFL won't allow anyone too crooked into our club. 
On another note, I thought the comments about not wanting to see the club on a steady decline in the documentary was ironic considering the situation we find ourselves in. He bought the club in a good position. I know that comment was a couple of seasons ago now, but even if would have to admit he's selling the club in a far worst state than when he bought in. 

I just want to apologise for the delay, my absence, my handling of the situation and try to explain what has happened.
The meeting on Wednesday was scheduled to end at 8.45pm, my last train home was 9.33pm, I slipped out just after 9pm as I didn’t have clothes, medication, toiletries with me as I wasn’t planning on staying overnight.
When the meeting had finished, an agreement was made where one statement would be written and signed off by all groups, this is the first time anything like this had been agreed, I was under the impression we would be allowed to report back as normal.
Being completely unaware of this, whilst waiting for my train I saw a conversation take place on my Twitter timeline discussing the meeting minutes, when would they be out.
I replied, that the meeting minutes were not taken and we would be sharing the information ourselves, which as I say I was under the impression would be allowed, why else attend? I thought I was being helpful.
Now I can see on reflection I was clearly naive in not appreciating the number of fans waiting online for what was said at the meeting, would see the tweet whilst was part of a conversation, which was also public and could be seen and shared by others. The tweet blew up online having been retweeted, I’m not exaggerating when I say maybe hundred or more replies, some abusive to the point where I had to turn notifications off as my phone was freezing with as I came back into an area with phone signal.
On the forum I did pre warn members not to expect anything Wednesday evening, the minutes can sometimes take a few days to a couple of weeks before being released. I was going with the intention of asking the club if the minutes could be released within 24 hours or that we could release the information immediately. Obviously once we was told the minutes would not be taken all that went out the window and believed we was free to report back immediately, and that was the plan.
Again, I was clearly naive to the fact fans on Twitter would not be aware of this, so when I wasn’t replying to all the tweets with thumbs up or down if it’s good news, or are we going to have a club next week the levels of abuse increased, despite my plea for being understanding I wasn’t in the position to do so.
With my write up, I had no intention of adding any personal opinion, it would be just what was said and allow you all to read and take it as you will.
As you will be well aware, all fans see things differently and I didn’t want to raise any expectations or disappoint fans, then receive more abuse as it wasn’t what they were expecting.
I put myself in this situation through naivety, but I don’t accept that the abuse was warranted at all, I have removed the twitter account from my devices and will no longer be active on that account, opting now for a private account as I have no interest in twitter fame.
I would seriously urge anyone that did send me abusive tweets to have a think how they talk to people online and their demands, if this is this what celebrities have to deal with on a daily basis, I’m glad I’m just a nobody!
Punjabi Rams, who I honestly can’t thank enough stepped in and put some tweets out from their account to give some information in my defence. You guys are awesome, didn’t need to do that but again, I honestly can’t thank you enough. Quick plug www.punjabirams.co.uk, @PunjabiRams on Twitter, go give them a follow if you are on there.
On the train home I started to do the write up on my notes app, realising I need to get this out asap, first thing to defuse the situation I felt I had created.
Thursday morning, as I was consulting my notes and finishing off the write up, there was a few things I wanted to fact check with the club were totally accurate, there has been times where things have been misheard in the past (Boycie ahem) and needed correcting, I didn’t want this to happen. We’re human, mistakes can happen, I believed I had time to ensure there were none.
I decided, and this was not requested by the club but to send my write up to them, asking if they could read it over and everything I had written was totally accurate, leaving ??? <—— fact checks where I was a little cautious over.
They agreed and I again naively yet again assumed that this would be back with me in a few hours……despite the previous night listening to just how busy they have been.
Now whilst I understand and totally agree that this meeting is important, the club staff are as I’m sure you can imagine really busy, now I need to really stress here that this is in no way the fault of the club, this is on me 100%.
No tweet, no forum post, none of this situation exists.
Meanwhile The Supporters Charter Group are scratching their heads as to why I’ve gone it alone, I can only apologise to them also, as I say I was under the impression that we would all be reporting back ourselves which I have explained privately with them.
A single statement isn’t something I would have been personally happy with but that is what was agreed in my absence.
I haven’t felt comfortable coming back on the forum if I'm honest, ignoring the fact I insinuated what was said at the meeting would be out Thursday on the forum, I feel like I have let you all down and for that I’m sorry.
Just to add, this apology wasn’t asked for, it's something I feel is owed to you all.
Should someone have gone that could have stayed all evening? Ideally yes, although Paul (Boycie) was unavailable to attend. Since the formation of 2017 it has only been either myself or Paul that has attended, I didn’t feel it would be right to send someone new which in hindsight was the correct call, they may have also not been able to attend until the end of what I’m led to believe turned out to be almost a 4 hour long meeting, putting themselves unwittingly into a similar situation I have.
I know you are all frustrated, the accusations of attention seeking, sitting on information, teasing, trying to get more views, followers etc. and even censorship on the forum are simply not true, they come from people that do not know me or how the forum is run at all, which is disappointing hearing it said by members that have been on the forum for a number of years now.
Finally, I do want to say thank you to those who have sent supportive texts, PM’s, DM’s, tweets you name it over the last few days, despite asking to be given time, it’s you who I put the hours in for, I will learn from this and work on handling things better in the future.
I would also like to thank the moderators who have been trying their best to keep on top of the situation, without them this forum would have crashed and burned over the last few days so please be respectful to them, even if at times you do not agree with decisions they have made. 
David
 

We will not move forward as a club until a new owner is at the helm and had a chance to make his mark. It’s just disappointing to see Mel putting his trust in these characters, twinned with two failed takeovers to two different charlatans. Along with everything else. It’s just a poo situation and the sooner we can put all this behind us and shelf the ‘Mel Morris era’ as one that had highs and lows, the better. 

Yes I am, but, we are circumventing the FFP again when is he going to learn?
Also which investor is going to buy a football club without placing into writing that Mel is going to be responsible for the debt which he is suggesting.  That's like me selling you a car that's not HPI clear and saying don't worry mate, I will keep paying the loan....  Would you buy the car? 
I think we know full well why investors keep pulling out of deals now!

I've been away, and the last I heard was on the night when David said he would post his report the following morning. Came on here today expecting to read some details, but am I right in concluding that nothing of substance has actually been reported back?
If David's place at the meeting was as a representative of this forum, then it does beg the question as to "what was the point?"

For me it is very concerning that numerous representatives were at the meeting yet we still no absolutely nothing about the contents of it. What little has come out we all knew anyway. Once again a farce and a slap in the face of the fan base.

Winning games makes a difference 

Think we need to show some patience as fans. We want Joz and the others to play as well as they possibly can, so I'm not sure criticising   him is going to help. 
From memory players who play in major tournaments over the summer tend not to have a great start to a season - maybe this is the problem for Joz. Hopefully Wayne and Liam can work on it
I accept that its a while ago but my understanding is that when he joined the club, he could speak no English and the only two people he could talk to initially were Bielik and his missus. Then the virus kicked in. So its not been easy for him
Lets show him some sympathy and support

Well he also said the new contract offers could have been handled a lot better.
He's been a great servant to Derby, last game of last season being typical of the man, he should be treated with the utmost respect.
Indeed, in fairness, I hope all of the "trialists" were kept informed of the situation as it evolved.
I have no idea what is happening behind the scenes at the club and I've been less willing than others to slam Mel, but it does appear that it's not all down to random, targeted actions by the EFL.
Morrison's Instagram and Davies's interview both suggest that the club is not acting altogether fairly.

Made one amazing header to stop a certain goal (where I was sat it already looked in). Heading towards goal, 3 yards out, used his body to get it away and ended up in the back of the net. Goal saving header.

So I mean this not at all against David, but was there literally no point in the fans forum last week if what was said can still not be reported by now?

Yeah definitely ? and in the end it's a game of opinions really, very rarely is there one 'right' answer. No point saying 'he was crap' as you say lol need to give some thought as to why you think things. 

Yeah, festy definitely does add a bit of energy especially as the game gets stretched in the second half he can be useful in that regard. Definitely agree re the crowd, often times a tasty challenge or some closing down will lift things up a little and get people up and excited. 

Yeah, thought the atmosphere was fantastic even if the stadium was quite sparse really. I'm not sure if it will remain that way once getting back to the games becomes more normal and if the results don't quite come but i hope we all stay onside in the stands and get behind the lads. Honestly, I think if nothing changes we'll more than likely go down but we need to at least all make a good fight of it. 

All good buddy I enjoy exchanging views with people like yourself who give reasoning and explanation to things , we don’t have to agree and that’s what its all about, will always take on board a well explained viewpoint 
makes a change from the “ he was crap” we see so often on here lol 
Agree re festy, I think he just gave us a little bit of energy more than anything, got to a few balls first stretched them a little , but no more than closing them down a bit quicker with a bit more energy that gave the crowd a lift as much as anything 
was a great atmosphere, thought the crowd were excellent in terms of getting behind the lads 
long may that Continue , we’re in it together