RammingStone66

Why would anyone need to show proof of funds for more than two years? any football owner can pull the plug at any time.. look at Wigan the guy pulled the plug after a couple of weeks. Kirchner has shown liquid funds of £100m I believe so this sounds like BS.

Didn't he have to prove he had the funds for 2 years worth of trading to satisfy the EFL test? 
He doesn't have to prove funds beyond that. Nothing story. 

If, as it seems, Morris is refusing a deal for the stadium that allows CK to take over the club, then effectively he is deciding who does take it over.
Given that he put us into Administration in the first place, that doesn't seem right - to say the least.

I get the feeling that this is more about long term wealth for Mel.
Make CK or MA lease it, he gets MSD off his back and then in a few years he can try to sell the stadium for how ever much he feels like. Why take 20mill now when he could take 50mill in a few years and have a bunch of the MSD debt paid off, or maybe just sit on it and keep earning money off it for the next 20 years.

I fear you're right.
Goodbye Kirchner.
Goodbye Rooney.
Goodbye Academy.
Goodbye immediate promotion.
Goodbye respect for the history of the club.
Goodbye feel good optimism.
Hello Mike Cashley. Hello Sports Direct adverts everywhere.

I said the same thing earlier, preferred bidder is no longer in place and we know what league we’re in. Ashley was never going to pay championship money for a league one club. Mel can’t choose who ends up with the club but for all intents and purposes by delaying anything ground related, he’s all but doing it.

Ashley has more money than anyone else we've been linked to, and as much as he gets called I still think he's the best option, he'll want to get us to the Prem and sell us for a profit we stand much more of a chance at promotion with him imo.
Maybe he's learnt from Newcastle what not to do, so he may pump even more money into the academy.

Duck off Morris, you money grabbing arrogant C U Next Tuesday!!

It's a negotiating position. 
If the club needs the ground, Mel can demand whatever he wants. He clearly hates the club, and would let it die for a few extra £s, so there is no leverage on the 'do it to save the club' angle. Taking the position of 'fine, keep the white elephant if you want, it's worthless as a stadium without the club, but the club isn't worthless without Pride Park' gives him something to think about. 
Really though, I was suspicious of him buying the stadium from the start, this kind of nonsense was always the risk. Was always in it for self enrichment, and when he failed to get us up to sell, he's just asset stripped what little he can and has left the club to die. 

Let’s see how many fans on here are still sticking up for Morris if this deal doesn’t go through …..no excuses Morris just do what is needed for the longevity of the club and sell it on mega cheap  …if you actually care you will ….

Before completely blaming the efl, i think its worth while looking at a partial cause of the rot.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2020/sep/29/deadly-dychonomics-premier-league-clubs-wont-care-if-efl-teams-go-under
One thing that might have prevented derbys current plight is an independent regulator, here discussed ...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/football-english-fans-want-an-independent-regulator-heres-how-it-could-help-save-clubs-from-ruin-172720
 
 

I'm not sure it's possible to really classify any scenario as Optimistic, Realistic or pessimistic when we only have 4 players contracted and no idea of the rest of the squad.
If the EFL hits us the same as Bolton then CK can't pay any fees for players, has a 23 man squad limit and a wage limit of £4500. Hope ours isn't any worse than that, but I think we definitely have to hope that we keep the core of the current squad, and that Rooney and his team are rather good at recruitment.
 

I'm not sure it's possible to really classify any scenario as Optimistic, Realistic or pessimistic when we only have 4 players contracted and no idea of the rest of the squad.
If the EFL hits us the same as Bolton then CK can't pay any fees for players, has a 23 man squad limit and a wage limit of £4500. Hope ours isn't any worse than that, but I think we definitely have to hope that we keep the core of the current squad, and that Rooney and his team are rather good at recruitment.
 

Yeah and his high salary stays the same for both.
We’re better off planning for the future. We need to be looking at young non-league strikers who have been scoring against thuggish defenders as that’s going to be the secret to success next season.
Martin was great for us but we need to move on.

Glad you’re not in charge then.

Whenever people refer to Q i get an image of this self important dildo who's always ruining things:

"Why, Captain Pickard, I was just going announce a prefered bidder for the Enterprise."

You’re going to be gutted this morning, and rightly so.
But it ain’t all bad.
When we dropped out of the old 2nd division into the 3rd in 1984 things were in many ways, worse.
We didn’t (quite) have the financial issues, but we had a horrible team and the entire season was utterly depressing and devoid of hope in a way this season hasn’t been.
My personal highlight of an utterly depressing season was meeting Dave Watson in a Little Chef on the A1 after we spanked Cambridge away 3-0 in the FA Cup. That was pretty much it for ducks sake.
AND we had not just relegation, but the ignominy of losing to Plymouth in the FA Cup quarter-final to contend with after we had dragged them back to the BBG.
We all thought that we’d bounce right back when we did get relegated and the arrival of Arthur Cox just emboldened that belief.
An opening day away loss to Bournemouth, when Bournemouth then were more like the equivalent of Exeter now, didn’t dissuade us.
Of course, we didn’t bounce back and ended up outside the top 6.
But we had some BRILLIANT away days that season, Hull, Lincoln, and the last game of the season at Newport spring to mind.
It was a whole lot more fun than the previous season because we were, for the most part, competing and you could see what Arthur was trying to do.
There’s something fun about going to smaller clubs and taking the place over. Those of you who travel to away games know that the camaraderie is special.
In fact, the adversity that we have faced this season has developed that camaraderie, only it’s done it at home.
I work online and use social media a lot and the admiration for Derby’s support, especially those of you who travel away is a delight to read. I’ve even read genuine Forest and Leeds fans say they’re impressed.
And what’s not to be impressed about?
Forget the trolls who are loving this, the REAL football supporters appreciate and understand what Rooney has dragged the club through and the guy is universally respected, exponentially more so than when he was merely an excellent player.
He’s now an excellent ex-player and an excellent human being. Time will tell if he can become an excellent manager, but the signs are promising.
The second year under Arthur we did come up and that season was even better for road trips..
I’ve seen Derby beat Benfica, Real Madrid, every top English club multiple times and Forest many times. But if I were to list the best 5 games I’ve ever attended, Derby at home to Rotherham in the old 3rd Division on a Friday night would be up there.
That game with that penalty that took us back up to what would now be the Championship was a raucous, intense and then delirious atmosphere ending in an effing celebration comparable with any I have witnessed - although to be fair, my memory is a tad blurry because we did hit the pub hard.
I doubt there was a Liverpool fan that got anything like the joy from beating Man City in the cup semi or will get more if they win the thing, than we Derby fans got from squeaking past Rotherham that night.
The fact is, winning is just fun, no matter what division you are in. And beating adversity is fun too. So much more satisfying and enjoyable than just delivering on what’s expected.
Somebody posted that they hope we're not that team that thinks they will bounce back up.
I don't really care if fans think that. It's totally irrelevant.
What is relevant is what WR thinks and what he allows his staff and players to think.
And I have no doubt whatsoever that he'll not allow that entitled type of mindset to creep in.
The good news is we have renewed hope for a stable club, a very promising manager in place, an Academy that is flourishing even if it is being pillaged and some wins to look forward to.
We are where we are, so we may as well embrace it and have fun. And you will have some fun, I promise.

Fantastic display and result last night!  Probably too late but maybe not...???
I know I bang on about this a lot, but we simply wouldn't even be in with even this remaining (slim) chance if not for the amazing work of the Academy providing a lifeline of skilful, energetic and committed young players.  Every time someone leaves and we fear the worst, along comes another Academy player to step up and take their opportunity with relish.  Long may it continue!
This is going to be absolutely crucial next season with spending still restricted due to much lower TV income, FFP etc.  CK isn't going to spend big until we are in the Championship playoffs, especially in view of recent experience.
I think next season we can expect a similar blend of bargain signings of experienced journeymen willing to drop a league to play for Wazza, together with more Academy talent.  On the evidence of this season it might well work!
COYR!!!

I know that there is lots of speculation about CK's net worth but as long as he has enough to rescue us and get us on an even keel it doesn't preclude getting others involved later even if he couldn't take us on himself. That said, clever wealthy people are generally good at being a bit vague as to their full financial situation and as long as he can see it through and moving in the right direction I'm not really interested in his exact net worth.
In fact I think Morris' reputation as a wealthy man who would chuck money at things led to some epicly bad bits of business. Let it remain unclear as far as I'm concerned. Stops clubs taking the piss in transfer negotiations and players and agents with wages..

Ashley if he wanted the club he could have come in with £50 million and still have had a competative team in place with minimal additions and the club could have had a good chance of staying in the championship, with Jags, Shinne and others still here, instead he wants the club on the cheap, how much will a rebuild cost more than £20 million? sure it will
If he had bought in January or earlier he would have been able to retain all the acadamey players which we had to sell for peanuts, if they had been retained and played for the team they would have been worth way more than £20 million, blinkered view from Ashley and others with their false economic views of the club.
CK is the man along with Rooney, Rosinor and Darren Wassel of the acadamey fame are the ones to take our club forward, it maybe a slow journey but it will be done the right way, no more poo or bust for our club again.

Look this is once again a message to the players go out there and show kircher and anyone watching why you desevse a new contract at derby county but also send a message that even if we go down we are still fighting and will be back sooner than everyone thinks. 
Many people think this is the end of derby county well let's show them if anything this is just the beginning of new era of derby county football club rooney will get this club first league title since 80s or 90s. But his first as a manager I have believe rooney will be our new brain clough I have faith in rooney that he will do this and get our great club back to the premiership in next 3 years or so. But hopeful sooner but job him and new owner got massive job to do first.
So come on derby
Go out there and show what they are made of.

To be honest, I am easily satisfied. A warm place to sit, drink and a snack, and to chat football is enough for me. B4 says Backyard is open again, I didn't know that, as it has always been shut before.
Inside ground, I would like more content on big screen, a couple of exclusive interviews or show the Rams TV build up on there. More competitions for kids and big kids, upgrades or hospitality. They used to move a family up to Directors Box at one time, that all stopped.
Daft games around pitch (I loved those silly fish things that ate each other!) or even a few fan interviews, an update from Derby County Community Trust initiatives, Jamie or Audrina and a drum solo from Punjabi Rams. Things like that can go on around perimeter without affecting players' warm up too much.
Just things that build the sense of it being 'our' club. I did think we'd lost that a bit, it all got too corporate before this crisis. 
 

Has anyone watched this lad play for the u21’s? I watched the squad warm up last week and he was by far the best finisher, I’m looking forward to seeing him play hopefully we keep hold of him

The biggest clue for me that this bloke has enough money is Garry Cook. 
The same Gary Cook who launched the Jordan brand with Nike, was at the start of the Man City takeover and I think headed the global media team for the UFC - or something along those lines. 
That's 3 massive brands, and he was at the start of all 3 having massive expansions. 
The kind of bloke who wouldn't spend his time sitting in Preston for no reason.

With an English accent you can tell them anything and they will believe you. Where I worked a woman used to call the office just to hear me talk. I love them bits though, so much so I became one in 2010. I have two nice shiny passports now. I love pissing off TSA and customs both sides of the Atlantic. I was once asked at Manchester airport how long I would be in the states for. As long as I want, I said. No you won't, you can only stay (3 months I think it was) he said. Nope pretty sure I can stay longer, I replied. Now he was getting annoyed. As a British citizen you cannot stay as long as you want. Ok then, I got my US passport out, put it on the counter and told him I would travel on this one then. Cue red face and muttering about smart arse wasting his time. Childish I know, but anything for a laugh.