Raich Carter

Evil doesn't believe itself to be evil so what is his actual motivation? 
I totally understand him having a vendetta against Morris but not against the club (which is, at the end of the day, the fans) because we've not actually done anything wrong. Other than regard Boro to be completely irrelevant to football. If they disappeared tomorrow, would anyone notice...? 
If he's going against DCFC to ruin us and get back at Morris then I'm not sure it's worth it as perhaps Morris won't be that bothered about whether DCFC continues or not...? Dunno. These big-time businessmen and their egos...
If I was Derby I wouldn't engage lawyers. I'd re-employ Martin Kuhl and let him handle it how he sees fit.

Esteban Fuertes passport
Stephen Bywaters caravan
Andre Wisdoms SatNav (never used)
Should raise a few quid

You could cause many tens of pounds of improvements to middlesbrough in one of those!

So many good names...
I'll throw in 'Wanchope' so we can ask for a Wanchope Top.
Or a Camp Shandy. 
Or a Higginbotham Top.
Or Half an Hector.
I'll stop.
 

Eh? Are people forgetting that Keogh got himself injured? So they didn't 'all do the same' - Keogh made himself useless to DCFC. The others did a very silly thing but were still capable of playing. 
With regard to Mutu - yes, Chelsea successfully sued him for the £15m.
 

Not sure now is really the time to go over the rights and wrongs of Ramstrust, especially about something that happened about 16 years ago. Time to be united.

Eh? Are people forgetting that Keogh got himself injured? So they didn't 'all do the same' - Keogh made himself useless to DCFC. The others did a very silly thing but were still capable of playing. 
With regard to Mutu - yes, Chelsea successfully sued him for the £15m.
 

Eh? Are people forgetting that Keogh got himself injured? So they didn't 'all do the same' - Keogh made himself useless to DCFC. The others did a very silly thing but were still capable of playing. 
With regard to Mutu - yes, Chelsea successfully sued him for the £15m.
 

Eh? Are people forgetting that Keogh got himself injured? So they didn't 'all do the same' - Keogh made himself useless to DCFC. The others did a very silly thing but were still capable of playing. 
With regard to Mutu - yes, Chelsea successfully sued him for the £15m.
 

Eh? Are people forgetting that Keogh got himself injured? So they didn't 'all do the same' - Keogh made himself useless to DCFC. The others did a very silly thing but were still capable of playing. 
With regard to Mutu - yes, Chelsea successfully sued him for the £15m.
 

Sorry, just that it was meant as I 'it isn't all doom and gloom' post and then got people with daft analogies and missing the gist. I just meant it's not all bad but clearly not a situation anyone wanted.
Cash flow - who knows. The whole situation was ridiculous but FWIW I agree that Keogh should have been sacked. But then so should Lawrence and Mason as whilst they might have had perceived commercial value, in reality, they're both poo. 

That's a good point and obviously true but that bit is entirely Keogh's fault as he's the one that got himself injured by making silly choices. Even if we disagree with that aspect (i.e. accidents happen, etc), it's certainly not the clubs fault that he got injured.

I think the point being made is that the decison not to pay him didn't cost us because if we had paid him, he would have been paid for doing nothing which is how things have turned out anyway.  If he had returned to fitness within the remaining term of his contract, he would not have got in the team ahead of Davies,  Clarke or Wisdom. 

If Keogh hadn't have acted irresponsibly then you're right, it wouldn't have happened.
My point was financially we lost nothing. 

Not sure if it’s been said or not but the pay out was just the money Keogh would have been paid if we hadn’t sacked him so not sure it’s quite as bad as some think.

Forever hopeful that we can scrap our way out of this.
1- we’ve eroded the -12 points already
2- we are hard to beat and well organised (it appears)
3- several other teams could well be compounded with some level of points deductions too
4- we have the best midfielder outside the Premier league due to return to our ranks by January ????
5- king CKR is due back in to the squad
6- if we get new owners before January then just maybe we can make a few additions ????
7- our fans are standing up to be counted and as a whole we are unified against everyone else (good old siege mentality) ??????
 
8- we have FORTRESS Pride Park
9- we have something to fight for
10- WE ARE DCFC NOW LETS HAVE IT ??????
if we do manage to pull this off then someone should make a film about it.
 

<sigh>I heard / saw him, numerous times, dodging the question. With my own eyes and ears - not via a Twitter quote. Maybe he said that near the end of the furore or something (IDC) but the damage was done. He dodged, used abstract terms and this language that does everything but convince the listener that they're answering with any integrity -  seems to be de rigueur these days. 
Ultimately, it's inarguable that he did not do a good job of distancing himself from the job as evidenced by the fact he apologised for the same when he came back!

Can we move on? 

<sigh>I heard / saw him, numerous times, dodging the question. With my own eyes and ears - not via a Twitter quote. Maybe he said that near the end of the furore or something (IDC) but the damage was done. He dodged, used abstract terms and this language that does everything but convince the listener that they're answering with any integrity -  seems to be de rigueur these days. 
Ultimately, it's inarguable that he did not do a good job of distancing himself from the job as evidenced by the fact he apologised for the same when he came back!

Can we move on? 

It's ridiculous that they get away with it. If there's one homophobic or racist word then they're out. If they look back at the CCTV and the match they can see who was singing or at least send the stewards in.
The mentality of these people is just so wrong I'd be quite happy for them to banned for life.

It's ridiculous that they get away with it. If there's one homophobic or racist word then they're out. If they look back at the CCTV and the match they can see who was singing or at least send the stewards in.
The mentality of these people is just so wrong I'd be quite happy for them to banned for life.

It's ridiculous that they get away with it. If there's one homophobic or racist word then they're out. If they look back at the CCTV and the match they can see who was singing or at least send the stewards in.
The mentality of these people is just so wrong I'd be quite happy for them to banned for life.

I don’t think Mel really wanted Mac the 2nd time around.  He was keeping the seat warm until Rowett was available - one of the good things about Mel was never paying compensation for a manager.  Mac was brought in to keep us up after Pearson but was sacked after a bad spell, and Rowett being available.  Even at Macs initial press conference he was presented to the media on his own apologising for how he left like a naughty schoolboy.  No sign of Mel, the complete opposite of all his other appointments.  Sam Rush was still here then and I think that’s why he was brought back.
But you’re right, he should have stuck with him instead of yet another change in direction in manager, style of play, type of players needed, etc.

I heard him avoiding the questions on the radio and TV. Don't give a monkeys what's quoted on Twitter.