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WestKentRam

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    WestKentRam got a reaction from RoyMac5 in F1 2021   
    Exactly my position. I was sucked in by the hype and thought I'd give it another go after decades of non-watching what to me had become a tedious procession. I thought it would be great to watch a sporting finale unencumbered by having to worry about contrived rules, legal small print and drawn out appeals etc that supporting Derby had become...
    The FIA may have shot themselves in the foot here, as in trying to make it a more exciting spectacle by bizarrely suddenly changing the rules during the crucial part of a race, they've turned people off like me as World of Sport wrestling on ITV Saturday afternoons with Dickie Davies feels less fixed (one for the kids, there).
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    WestKentRam got a reaction from Kathcairns in Alan Nixon Breaks Silence on American Billionaire Bid   
    I can't understand, if he hasn't worked his way through his initial reported £500m net worth, why Mel Morris doesn't bite the bullet and settle the club debts that accrued under his tenure, so it can be sold to another owner. Surely he will still be left enough to live on after this.
    The alternative of leaving a legacy of being a pariah in the city and the negative effects on 10s of thousands of people in Derby and the repercussions this is going to have across the wider footballing world makes me think there must be something else going on as it otherwise just doesn't make sense. 
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    WestKentRam got a reaction from CBRammette in Alan Nixon Breaks Silence on American Billionaire Bid   
    I can't understand, if he hasn't worked his way through his initial reported £500m net worth, why Mel Morris doesn't bite the bullet and settle the club debts that accrued under his tenure, so it can be sold to another owner. Surely he will still be left enough to live on after this.
    The alternative of leaving a legacy of being a pariah in the city and the negative effects on 10s of thousands of people in Derby and the repercussions this is going to have across the wider footballing world makes me think there must be something else going on as it otherwise just doesn't make sense. 
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    WestKentRam got a reaction from derby8 in Steve Gibson trying to liquidate Derby   
    Looking this up it does appear to have similarities, especially with the amount Sheffield United claimed against West Ham.
    https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/uk-sport/19289469.day-2007-west-ham-accept-fine-tevez-mascherano-deal/
    "West Ham and Sheffield United eventually reached an out-of-court settlement to end their dispute in March 2009.
    The Blades initially valued their claim at £45million but the actual figure agreed was reported to be around £20million, with payments spread over a five-year period."
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    WestKentRam reacted to Gaspode in Steve Gibson trying to liquidate Derby   
    I doubt they could say any of those things without being seen to prejudice any legal case - just because people want them to say things doesn't mean they can....
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    WestKentRam got a reaction from Carl Sagan in Steve Gibson trying to liquidate Derby   
    In recent interviews Carl Jackson of Quatuma has said the action by Boro and WW will have to be resolved before the sale of Derby can go through. If this rumbles on without resolution then surely it increases the risk of the club being liquidated as no buyer will step in with a further £45m claim hanging over them.
    It reminds me of when it was reported in the press three days before the play off final v Villa in May 2019 that Gibson planned to sue Derby. It felt like the timing was a deliberate attempt to destabilise our preparations for the match.
    So I wouldn't be surprised to see this drag on and be the last remaining stumbling block to a sale after HMRC and other issues re debts have been resolved. I can't see with his history against Derby that Gibson is going to roll over and give up his claim without a prolonged legal battle and this is exactly what we do not want at the moment.
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    WestKentRam reacted to jono in Steve Gibson trying to liquidate Derby   
    There is something about his actions that seem out of kilter. My guess is he has certain ethics that he thinks have been breached. Everything I know about him in industry speaks of a straight shooter who plays fair. He’s also been supportive of managers in difficulty. Before all this I saw him as one of the good guys, so one wonders what the story is behind the story ?
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    WestKentRam got a reaction from jono in Steve Gibson trying to liquidate Derby   
    It seems to me there must be more behind Gibson expecting Derby to somehow stump up £45m that I cannot see will ever happen.
    Ryan Hills informative book 'Pride' tells in its early chapters the history of Pride Park being planned and built. Gibson was very helpful to Peter Gadsby in this, as the blueprint for PP was the same as the already constructed Riverside Stadium. Gibson listed the features that he wished had been incorporated into their stadium, and 22 upgrades were made to PP when it was built helped by Gibson's advice.
    It must be a bit galling for Gibson to see the club he has helped in the past seemingly cheat its way into a play-off spot at their expense. Like the lead character in a Hollywood movie, revenge will be his!
    Looking at Gibson's Wikipedia page, this theme again jumps out at me as apparently he has accused others of 'betrayal' in the political arena, but then all is not lost as a 'reconciliation' occurs in the final act. I only hope this saga comes to such a happy conclusion and we can move on and concentrate on the small matter of an actual game of football...
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    WestKentRam got a reaction from Mucker1884 in Steve Gibson trying to liquidate Derby   
    I hope not as if this is the case I fear for the survival of the club. I find it hard to see how this will be resolved with Gibson and any potential new owners in particular in the next month given it has already dragged on for 2.5 years.
    It was just when I listened to the interview on SBW it sounded like the Boro and WW claim would have to be dealt with, and I took this to mean an agreement of some sort reached, rather than just the paperwork of the claim passed on to the new owners. 
    I am a natural worrier and hope I am wrong on this. Time will tell over the next month...
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    WestKentRam reacted to cosmic in I love this club.   
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    WestKentRam reacted to GenBr in End Parachute Money   
    Parachute payments last for 3 years - not just one. The last 3 seasons have seen at least 2 parachute teams get promoted and this year will almost certainly be the same.
    20-21 - watford and norwich
    19-20 fulham and west brom
    18-19 villa and norwich
    We've also lost our last 4 playoff campaigns to parachute teams as far as i can see.
    Parachute payments and their higher allowable losses create a huge advantage for these teams. 
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    WestKentRam reacted to DCFC Kicks in End Parachute Money   
    But promoted clubs need to spend to compete in the PL. If they got relegated into the Championship in their first PL season and didn't have parachute payments they'd be stuck with a bunch of players on high wages and got out of business.
    The source of the problem is the Premier Leagues never ending greed and 'profit above all else nature'. Football died in England in 1992.
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    WestKentRam got a reaction from Zag zig in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    Received this email from the club an hour after it went into administration.
    TBH I don't think I'm that likely to recommend Derby County to my family and friends at present, as they don't have several 10s of £M to burn through.
    There doesn't seem to be a -12 option on the scale they offer.

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    WestKentRam got a reaction from Kinder in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    Received this email from the club an hour after it went into administration.
    TBH I don't think I'm that likely to recommend Derby County to my family and friends at present, as they don't have several 10s of £M to burn through.
    There doesn't seem to be a -12 option on the scale they offer.

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    WestKentRam got a reaction from Ramarena in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    Received this email from the club an hour after it went into administration.
    TBH I don't think I'm that likely to recommend Derby County to my family and friends at present, as they don't have several 10s of £M to burn through.
    There doesn't seem to be a -12 option on the scale they offer.

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    WestKentRam got a reaction from ariotofmyown in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    Received this email from the club an hour after it went into administration.
    TBH I don't think I'm that likely to recommend Derby County to my family and friends at present, as they don't have several 10s of £M to burn through.
    There doesn't seem to be a -12 option on the scale they offer.

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    WestKentRam got a reaction from bimmerman in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    Received this email from the club an hour after it went into administration.
    TBH I don't think I'm that likely to recommend Derby County to my family and friends at present, as they don't have several 10s of £M to burn through.
    There doesn't seem to be a -12 option on the scale they offer.

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    WestKentRam got a reaction from thelovebelow in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    Received this email from the club an hour after it went into administration.
    TBH I don't think I'm that likely to recommend Derby County to my family and friends at present, as they don't have several 10s of £M to burn through.
    There doesn't seem to be a -12 option on the scale they offer.

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    WestKentRam got a reaction from Rammy03 in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    Received this email from the club an hour after it went into administration.
    TBH I don't think I'm that likely to recommend Derby County to my family and friends at present, as they don't have several 10s of £M to burn through.
    There doesn't seem to be a -12 option on the scale they offer.

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    WestKentRam got a reaction from cosmic in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    Received this email from the club an hour after it went into administration.
    TBH I don't think I'm that likely to recommend Derby County to my family and friends at present, as they don't have several 10s of £M to burn through.
    There doesn't seem to be a -12 option on the scale they offer.

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    WestKentRam got a reaction from LeedsCityRam in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    Received this email from the club an hour after it went into administration.
    TBH I don't think I'm that likely to recommend Derby County to my family and friends at present, as they don't have several 10s of £M to burn through.
    There doesn't seem to be a -12 option on the scale they offer.

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    WestKentRam got a reaction from atherstoneram in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    Received this email from the club an hour after it went into administration.
    TBH I don't think I'm that likely to recommend Derby County to my family and friends at present, as they don't have several 10s of £M to burn through.
    There doesn't seem to be a -12 option on the scale they offer.

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    WestKentRam got a reaction from Wolfie in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    Received this email from the club an hour after it went into administration.
    TBH I don't think I'm that likely to recommend Derby County to my family and friends at present, as they don't have several 10s of £M to burn through.
    There doesn't seem to be a -12 option on the scale they offer.

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    WestKentRam got a reaction from RadioactiveWaste in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    Received this email from the club an hour after it went into administration.
    TBH I don't think I'm that likely to recommend Derby County to my family and friends at present, as they don't have several 10s of £M to burn through.
    There doesn't seem to be a -12 option on the scale they offer.

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    WestKentRam got a reaction from Ram-Alf in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    Received this email from the club an hour after it went into administration.
    TBH I don't think I'm that likely to recommend Derby County to my family and friends at present, as they don't have several 10s of £M to burn through.
    There doesn't seem to be a -12 option on the scale they offer.

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