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3 minutes ago, i-Ram said:

I like the idea in principle, but the maths aren’t working for me. If 40,000 chipped in £2.50 that would probably work, although not probably over the next few months as there are a lot of birthdays in my family during July and August.

How about the 20,000 season ticket holders all turn up at the same time, at the EFL hq, with a fiver each, to pay the fine?

46 minutes ago, Tamworthram said:

Loathed as I am to defend the EFL but isn’t this now sitting with the independent disciplinary commission? 

I think it's actually called the League Arbitration Panel, but, yes, it is independent of the EFL and God knows why it's taking so long.

Surely, when punishment, if any is given out, the continued suffering to the club, by this drawn out process needs to be taken into consideration, just as a convicted criminal's time spent in prison on remand is knocked off his sentence.

I expect virtually all restrictions to be lifted by 19th of July. The only ones not to be lifted may be high risk ie: night clubs or standing at a bar, inside. Outdoor spectator events should be restriction free, except maybe for mask wearing inside the ground.

They're increasing the numbers going to Wembley for the remaining Euro matches, Wimbledon for the tennis, the British GP at Silverstone and the test matches. Data will be collected from all of these events, in time for the start of the football season.

I think Jozwiak's best period last season, was when Bielik was playing.

This could be for a number of reasons:

A, he felt more settled with a fellow Pole in the team.

B, he benefited from having a better player giving him quicker and better passes.

C, he benefited from playing in a team playing with more confidence at the time.

Like many players, past and present, he seems to be a 'confidence' player. Hopefully, he can get and maintain that confidence next season.

I think that the goalkeeping Union of Steve Cherry and Lee Camp should be on the list.

Although, I think the Derby fans started the bad feeling with Cherry, when he was hammered for conceding direct from a corner against Plymouth in a cup Replay, when it was down to him, that we earned the replay in the first place.

The International Football Association Board have decided to continue with 5 subs for next season.

Do we really need it?  Players will have a normal break and pre-season before next season, so I can't see any justification on health grounds and do we want the disruption that comes with up to 10 players substituted each game?

Another rule which favours the big teams.

11 hours ago, BaaLocks said:

Yup, agree with that. Problem is that we have been found guilty so I guess it's going to be hard to argue the level of material damage caused by any delay. If we'd been waiting for the appeal, and then won it, you could make a stronger case. But it's clear what's going on, they are roasting Mel slowly over an open fire for daring to challenge their way of doing things. You can have a view whether or not Mel was right to go down this path but it's clear that for the EFL revenge is proving sweet. Which, too many peoples point, is kind of ironic when your consider they are supposed to be here for the clubs.

But, have we been found guilty? From what I understand, the EFL appeal has only allowed their 'expert's'  evidence to be submitted to the LAC's hearing. There is no proof that the addition of this evidence will change the result and/or punishment arising from the new hearing.

1 hour ago, Tamworthram said:

The truth about Millwall is that they didn’t receive a points deduction because it was deemed they hadn’t gained an advantage as evidenced by the fact that they were relegated anyway. 

On that basis, we didn't gain an advantage during the seasons in question because we didn't get promoted and we were so far from relegation, that any points deduction wouldn't have been enough to get us relegated.

9 minutes ago, Oldben said:

I'm reading that the club could face a double points penalty next season.

That doesn't seem like something to worry about, the case precedent is Sheffield wednesday who received 12pts (not the only club to have received a 12pt penalty in the past), on appealing that it was reduced from 12pts to 6pts. 

Derby should have the opportunity to do similar.

Wycombe feel its unfair that Derby don't have that 12 point penalty applied immediately and they get to stay in the championship, while Derby are relegated.

Well Wycombe should look at Charlton who were relegated while Sheffield wednesday stayed up, that set precedent.

I think the efl appeal and any points deduction us not the clubs biggest concern, the strength of the team and the managers ability to win as many games as possible are the problem.

The need for an immediate take over of the club is a bigger issue.

 

In all fairness to Wycombe, they have brought out a statement denying that they are considering any action regarding Derby getting a points deduction for 20/21 season. Good luck to them for next season.

So, we've managed to avoid relegation. Much has said about the players 'bottling' it, but let's give some credit where it's due to some of them. Davies, yesterday and Edmundsen a couple of games ago, both not contracted to the club now, put themselves forward after being out injured and with no training, therefore, risking long term injury. Also, CKR has being playing whilst injured and then Waggy with that bone crunching collision with post and playing on, in his last contracted game for the club.

Most of that team yesterday have no contract for next season, but twice they came back and showed a great passion for the club and for that I thank them.

I believe Rotherham have been promoted and relegated 2x each in the last 4 seasons, we've managed to match that in one game, today.

Better decision making wether to pass to an overlapping Byrne or cut inside, could make a dangerous combination on the right flank.

I'm still feeling numb, just numb. I don't feel like celebrating for some reason.

46 minutes ago, rynny said:

I thought that it was a dive at the time, and from the replays after he definitely went down very easy, it didn't look like Fozzy had tripped him, the only contact I saw was a slight brush of Dowell's back and he dropped to the floor. 

I agree, there didn't seem to be any contact from Fozzy, Dowell looked to have been closed down as well. If it had been Joz going down at the other end, there's no way we'd have had a free kick and there would have been those on here saying that it was embarrassing how easy he went down. In fact, Joz did make a header and got clattered by a Norwich player making no attempt for the ball, yellow card all day long, but not even a free kick.

Also, with the Dowell goal, the wall seemed to be a good 11 yards back, it would be nice if we had refs give us 10 yards, never mind 11. If you look at the replay, the free kick is 1 yard outside the area at 19 yards and the wall 2 yards outside the 6 yard box at 8 yards.

This is the championship, all games are winnable for all teams, likewise, all games are losable for all teams. Teams who have something to play for will beat you because they're trying, or lose to you because they're edgy. Teams who have nothing to play for will beat you because they're relaxed, or lose to you because they're 'on the beach'.

Unfortunately, I think that the next few weeks are going to be a rollercoaster, unless the next 11 days produce a perfect set of results, for Derby.

20 minutes ago, Jourdan said:

They only have the worst home record in the division because they have played three fewer home games than the majority of the division.

 

They have the worst home record because they currently have the fewest points at home and the fewest points per game as well.

One of the bottom 7 is going to go on a run and win most of their remaining games, one will do the opposite and not win another game and the others will so something in between. 

It's anybody's guess which one we're going to be, hopefully not the second option. 

People keep saying about all Rotherham's home games being an advantage, but they have the worst home record in the division and have a better away record, but doesn't mean it can't change.

Bizarrely, that result could be worth a point later in the season.

I fully expected a 5 goal plus defeat, by losing by only one goal, we could finish above another team, narrowly on goal difference.

4 minutes ago, Jourdan said:

I don’t see us getting very much from the three away games remaining.

Maybe a point at most?

It has looked like it will boil down to those two home games for a while now.

There only 2 teams worse than us, on current form, Blackburn and Preston.

1 hour ago, ollycutts1982 said:

In brief - 

Judge him by his work not his words

Will have help from someone who has worked at Real Madrid and is a big name in football

 

I hope that he isn't talking about Paul Clement!

20 minutes ago, plymouthram said:

So Rotherham who have won 2 and lost 8 in their last 10 matches are suddenly going to hit some form. They have managed to lose 21 games in only 36 matches, only Wycombe have lost more, that being 23 and they've done that over 40 games. Rotherham, with one of the smallest squads in the Championship have 10 matches to play in 28 days (Thats going to take it's toll). Likewise Sheff Weds have lost 7 drawn 1 and won just 2 in their last 10 games (they also would need to find some form). How you come to the conculsion that Hudderfield, Coventry and Birmingham are on par with us. All three have worse goal differences and two have a point less.

Compare our last 10 matches, we have lost 5, drawn 3 and won 2 (thats more points gained than Rotherham & Weds in the last 10 games). Currently, its points in the bag, having a better goal diff and less than a month the season is over.  If Rotherham perform the miracle and win 2, draw 2 of their games in hand, then also better Derby in their other games. Please come back on here and remind me and state you told me so. I'm sticking with Wycombe, Rotherham and Sheff Weds to be relegated.

You need to read what I have written, I haven't said that either of those teams are going to go on a run.  What I did say, is that for them to get level with us on points, will automatically mean their GD will have to improve when compared with ours. Should it come down to GD between us and either of Rotherham or Weds, we will be most likely worse off, unless one of them gets thrashed in a defeat.

On balance we're very close to Cov's GD and a little ahead of Hudders and Blues, hopefully that'll remain the situation after the weekend.

If you average the season out, then relegation should be all sorted, but unfortunately, anything can happen over the remaining few games.

12 hours ago, plymouthram said:

Yes I spotted my mistake after I had hit the submit button, but once they have played the same amount of games it will be worse than ours.

For Rotherham to get level with us, they need to win 2 and draw 2 games in hands, this will improve their goal difference by a minimum of 2 goals, not lower it.

Likewise, for the Weds to get level with us, they need to win 3 games whilst we draw 1 and lose 1 game, again this would result in a minimum 4 goal swing in their favour.

The only teams that we're on par with atm, are Hudders, Cov and Blues.

29 minutes ago, plymouthram said:

But our goal difference ain't as bad compared with Wycombe, Birmingham & Coventry. Also if Wednesday lose their game in hand it could be worse again.

If Rotherham and/or Weds get level on points with us, their GD will be much better than ours.

We'll be a lot wiser by Friday of next week, Blues, Hudders, Cov and Weds will have played their game in hand Rotherham will have played 2 of their 4 games in hand, 2 of them against Hudders and Cov.

6 minutes ago, Sparkle said:

I see no reason why Rotherham will want to play this week !

They haven't got any choice now, every midweek is now taken up for them. Any more postponements will mean more than one midweek fixture for them.