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3 hours ago, Animal is a Ram said:

Would love for him to get a 5min cameo against Carlisle. Such a shame to see a good talent hampered by injuries.

Why, unless he's likely to sign for us next year

If we're looking at a 5 minute cameo when the result is safe, I'd rather it was youngster or some other first team regular.

12 hours ago, Jimbo Ram said:

Just wondering what our approach will be. Go for the win or make sure we don’t lose. Interesting……very interesting 😊

I'm sure it will be somewhere between the two. Go for the win but not so gung-ho that we put ourselves too much at risk of losing.

On the front foot please but with control and composure. 

11 hours ago, De22Ram said:

I did mine last month but i always worry this time of year that it hasnt gone through or somethings gone wrong and i loose my seat lol! 

You should be able to see it in purchase history.

Log on to the DCFC site.

Click on your profile at the top.

From the drop down options select "my match tickets".

On the left hand side select "season tickets"

That's how it looks on my Ipad anyway.

13 hours ago, ap04 said:

If you -or anyone else- think so I strongly suggest you read something like this (not dismiss it, try and understand it)

From what I can make out, all this article tell us is if you run a random set of numbers many times you’re much more likely to get the spread of results you’d expect than if you only ran it once. That’s pretty obvious stuff in the same way that if you tossed a coin 6 times, the chances are that you wouldn’t get a 50:50 split between heads and tails. If you tossed a coin 10,000 times though, you would get much closer to half heads and half tails.

The author claims to have taken into account the fact all teams don’t start the league equal and has allowed for some being stronger than others when arriving at the random number that generate the results for each individual game. However, as far as I can see, he hasn’t explained what weighting he has applied nor how he has applied it. If the weighting is only marginal then you’d expect fairly similar variation to the completely random results.

I don’t think anyone is denying that the larger the sample size the more likely the results are to reflect expectation. But what I think we are saying is that, over the course of a full season, whilst there still be a few random results where a “weaker” team will beat a “stronger” team, the impact of these unexpected results will be dissipated to an extent that the league table, by and large, reflects the relative strengths of the teams competing.

and breath………

6 hours ago, Bessie1 said:

Curtis Davies scored Cheltenham’s winner last night against Burton.  He’s still got it in him!  (No filthy memes please).

If only we had someone that could score from set pieces. 😀

16 minutes ago, Keepyuppy said:

I hope the ideal scenario is an away win at Cambridge Utd on Sat - that would absolutely be a suitable outcome for the Away fans who’ve backed the team very loudly all season and then we either win or draw the final home game confirming promotion in front of a full house, where we can all give our gratitude to the players and especially to David Clowes who rescued the club for us all.
Whatever anyone thinks about the Manager, Coaches and Squad, they will have achieved promotion which not that many players or managers have achieved in the last 50 odd year - it would be a doe idk day for us all to come together and celebrate together.  Here’s hoping !! 🐏🤗  

Totally agree with your second paragraph. However, whilst it would be more exciting to finalise promotion at home on the last day, for the sake of my heart, I’d be quite happy if we confirmed promotion at Cambridge. 😀

30 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said:

Was Paul disappointed they didn't come knocking?

😉

Probably not but I’m sure a few posters on this forum are. 😀

6 minutes ago, StantonRam said:

As someone said above, Posh can't finish with more than 89 points, same as Bolton, and we still have GD advantage over both.

So - if we reach 90 points it doesn't matter what either of them do.

Bolton's result last night puts them behind what I predicted, and makes it unlikely that they can now overtake us unless bizarre things happen on the final day.

Possible scenarios Rams v Trotters:

We win the last 2 games and we are 2nd no matter what.

We win and draw the last 2 games and we have 90 points and are still 2nd no matter what.

We draw both games, and if Bolton win both theirs then they are 2nd (89 points to our 88).  Same thing would also be true if Posh won their last 3.  However, since Posh play Bolton BOTH of those scenarios happening at once is impossible, it would be either one or the other above us but not both, and we would finish 3rd, with all the playoff advantages that brings.  Let's hope however that it doesn't come to that.

That seems to me to be a reason to really go for it on Saturday, as a win would really take the pressure off.  No point accepting a point on Saturday, as this would only increase the pressure to win on the last day. 

If we won on Saturday and got to 89 points then GD would kick in, and we would still finish 2nd no matter what happens on the last day.  Or at the very least we would go into the last day knowing that only the combination of both a heavy loss for us and a big win for Trotters or Posh (possible but unlikely) would change anything.

That depends on what Bolton (or Posh) do on Saturday. It isn’t inconceivable that Bolton beat Port Vale by 3 or 4 goals. Meaning, if we say only beat Cambridge by a single goal, we’d go into the final game with a 3 point advantage but our gd advantage cut to 3 or less. If that happened it wouldn’t require a combination of a heavy defeat for us and a big win for Bolton for them to overtake us.

The only certainty is, if we get better results than both Bolton and Posh on Saturday then we’re up. Anything less (other than a defeat for us and a handsome win for either Bolton or Peterborough) probably leaves us as favourites going into the last games.

5 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said:

Not sure why you bother replying. Obvious troll I’ve had on ignore for quite a while. 

I did think of putting @ap04 on ignore but I find his posts and arguments unintentionally hilarious.

3 hours ago, hydraulic ram said:

 Can't see Warne thinking it's done and dusted, not the mentality he's shown so far.

I think he will want 2 wins and expect the players to commit to 2 wins no matter what.

I reckon there’s no manager in the entire league that would think it’s done and dusted yet or indeed if we still have a three point lead (and six points on Peterborough) after Saturday. They would be insane to think so.

8 minutes ago, tomsdubs said:

True but they have been saying he needs to go, shows that there is nothing unusual about our fanbase. You always get that wide spectrum of views.

That’s what I’ve been preaching for a long time and I rather suspected that we wouldn’t have to look too far to find possibly a noisy minority wanting the manager out regardless.

40 minutes ago, TomTom92 said:

My only comment about the comparisons with the Reading match was at the time we were on a downward spiral with a defence that leaked goals for fun. Neither are the case this time.

You’re right. Along with many others on this forum, I was at that game and seem to recall a sense of inevitability about the result rather than surprise.

19 minutes ago, Charliegeorge1962 said:

Yes, but that all irrelevant if we win on Saturday or even both our games its promotion.

Posh can max out on 89pt

We beat Cambridge 89pt with plus 10 GD - I cannot see us losing at home to Carlisle. 

Not the same as getting into the playoffs in 2015 ....this is promotion!

It’s not “irrelevant ”if we win on Saturday (unless both Posh and Bolton drop points). It means the chances of us failing to go up would be very remote but, still possible. That’s all I’m saying. 

19 minutes ago, Charliegeorge1962 said:

I can see their last game against Bolton going for a draw at that will be their 3rd game in a week.

Either way the win against Cambridge  and its promotion because I cannot see relegated Carlisle putting up a fight in the final game with 30,000 plus screaming in their faces.

I agree but I'm just saying, don't count your chickens. As has been mentioned previously, it's not that long again that we only needed a draw at home to lowly Reading (admittedly, a different proposition to playing Carlisle - I hope) to make the play offs but we ended up losing.

I'm also predicting a draw in that final game Posh v Bolton but who knows what will happen. One team may be resting players for the play offs whilst the other is going all guns blazing in order to overtake us. Look at last season. Barnsley, already in the play offs and 12 points ahead of Posh, end up losing 2:0 at home to them on the last day. 

16 minutes ago, Charliegeorge1962 said:

Automatic promotion for us this Saturday.

Us getting a few goals against Cambridge. And I can see Vale getting a draw at Bolton.

COYR

Don't forget, we also need to better Peterborough's result as well to be absolutely certain on Saturday. They've got a big goal difference to make up (probably most of it over their next two games as I can't see either Bolton or Posh beating the other by more than a goal or two) but, you never know. We may need to keep the champagne on ice.

2 hours ago, tomsdubs said:

Their Twitter they all moan about him all the time and the players. Lot of them think he talks a load of BS.

Everybody moans on X don't they?

10 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

Glad your happy. 👍

As I replied, yes an achievement. Done with some of the League's best players and best paid players. Oh, well not yet done, so probably scraped in. An achievement though.

Is this you confessing that you’re not happy if we get promoted then? 😀

3 minutes ago, Srg said:

Wonder if the record books will have an asterisk in them for "scraped it playing Warne-ball".

 

 

(should we get over the line - not to tempt fate)

Does this qualify as a legitimate point worthy of debate?

No, I didn’t think so. 

5 minutes ago, Srg said:

Look at the replies... a fair few.

Just as entitled as us then?😀

9 hours ago, Ram@Lincoln said:

Ian Evatt has thrown in the towel. Don't mess it up Derby...

 

I wonder how many Bolton fans will be calling for him to “do the decent thing and resign” if he fails to get them promoted as some on this forum have suggested Warne should do if we don’t go up? 😄

8 hours ago, Grumpy Git said:

I had one, but for me, the train journey to Cambridge is such ballache, I gave it to a mate who lives a lot closer.

 

Tut tut. So someone has confessed to abusing the priority sales system. 😀

1 hour ago, simmoram1995 said:

My head says 1-1 with a red card and multiple injuries for Bolton but I can’t look past at least 3-0 Bolton 

 Surely you meant your heart says 1:1 but your head says at least 3:0 to Bolton?
 

I reckon we’d all be equally surprised and delighted if Shrewsbury got anything out of tonight.

PW and the team will be aiming to win both of our remaining games. Us, as supporters, have probably got to accept that’s what’s required.

7 hours ago, DB83 said:

As for the game… we couldn’t beat Cambridge at home, so I have zero confidence that we can beat them away.

Same with Carlisle… they’ve already won 3-1 away at both Bolton and Peterborough… I fully expect them to do the same at PP.

I’ve been known to be wrong, of course, but… … …

Football isn’t that straightforward though is it?

We couldn’t beat Peterborough, Oxford, Wigan and Charlton at home but we beat them all away.

Consequently, whilst I fear a draw, I don’t think there are any grounds to have “zero” confidence that we can beat them purely because we couldn’t beat them at home.

10 hours ago, Andicis said:

Not saying what I think Clowes will do, this is all of course just my opinion.

The sense is that it gives us the opportunity to build a squad for a new manager with a new direction and a clean slate. 

I would argue that it could well be a wise use of resources as the alternative could be far more costly. 

Say if we are to invest everything into the team Warne wants, and things don't work in the Championship, aren't we then entrenched into the Warne style by having players purchased to play that way? 

My opinion on the style of play is based from what we've seen so far. Maybe it'll change with better players, I imagine that fundamentally it will be the same as we've seen. Personally, I don't really enjoy that. Some people probably do which is fair enough, but you have to admit that at the very least the style is polarising amongst the fans which is never a positive. 

The football this season has rarely been pretty, I don’t think anyone can deny that and the thought of more of the same isn’t very appetising. However, how much of that is down to the manager’s preferred style and how much is down to a need to adapt and do whatever it takes to get out of this league? Probably a combination of both. On the latter point, a lot of games this seem to blur into each other (which maybe says it all) but I reckon a lot of our entertaining football has come against the better teams in the league (I can’t substantiate that theory before anyone asks, it’s just a gut feeling). So, on that basis, I think we’ll either get rolled over pretty much every week (or, if we’re lucky manage to cling on for a point or three every now and then) or, we’re able to make some decent recruitment in the summer and will be able to go toe to toe with the more talented teams you get in the Championship - matching them to an extent in terms quality of football. 
 

Obviously the former is what we all fear whilst the latter is what we all want. I for one (not that it’s up to me of course), am prepared to give PW the benefit of the doubt and accept that, to a degree, the quality of football we have seen this season has been down to the league we’ve been playing in. I totally get that some members on this forum really don’t rate him, don’t like his football, don’t think anything will change if we go up, and want him gone but, I’m hoping such individuals (not aimed at you by the way) give their Warne out campaign a bit of a rest next season for at least a dozen games.

25 minutes ago, Andicis said:

I'm sure this is a controversial take, but if we see out the job and secure promotion I think we should give Warne our sincere thanks, a good bonus and a full pay out of his contract and then we should part ways. 

Nothing against him personally, but I don't think the way we play football is sustainable for Derby in the long run, and I'm not sure Warne is the right man to take us any further. 

I'm sure that's not the way it will go, I just have a strong feeling that next year will be rough if we stay the same course.

It’s nowhere near the first time this has been suggested and it’s not the first time I, and some others, have said it’s incredibly unlikely to happen. Nor should it. IF we do go up, none of us really know what it will be like next season and PW will deserved the chance to have a crack at it.