Tamworthram

10 hours ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said:

Seems they've taken a lot from the U21'S. Pretty shocking really.  You can get away with a couple of knocks ...ahem. You can't just say sod everyone else, i Don't care if we lose by a 10-0 aggregate over two matches. There are integrity rules including those rammed down your neck for Pizza cups. Let's not forget the original fixture was postponed due to two international call ups.  

I took a glance at their forum last night and one poster was suggesting many or most had featured in their match day squads this season - I don’t know how true that is. My eleven year old nephew is in the academy there, I’ll take a look and see if he was playing. 😀

16 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said:

So you can get fined for not playing a strong team in the EFL cup vs the likes of Sheffield Utd u21s when you are unable to still qualify from group, but you can play a joke team in League One meaning another team can go down?

I guess it depends on how the EFL define “full strength team”. My suspicion is either they don’t have a definition, it’s a bit vague or it just stipulates x number of players that have featured in the match day squad during the season.

44 minutes ago, Ramfan1958 said:

Why play Bird when he's going ? 

The fact that he is going is irrelevant. We should be playing the best team available that suits the situation.

9 hours ago, Stive Pesley said:

Bustler also has a record fair on at the same time...

Annoyingly I've had tickets for the game since they came out but now can't make it as I have an MRI scan appointment come through for Saturday morning and I can't really cancel it. Some things are more important than some overpaid prats kicking a ball around 😞

Too late for you now but they do seem to be doing more scans at the weekend these days. Not remotely on the same level but I had a CT scan a couple of weeks ago. At first I was offered Friday afternoon but I couldn’t make it that day. Next offer was Saturday but that was a no no due to Derby playing at home so, they offered me Sunday instead.

On a slightly separate note, a few years back I was taken in an ambulance to A&E at 7am on a Saturday morning with kidney stone problems. Anyone that’s had kidney stones (my sympathies) will know that often, it’s complete agony for a couple of hours but then sometimes it eases and you generally think you feel OK not long after. I felt OK by lunchtime but my wife (wisely) wouldn’t let me go to Derby. I know I should have been more B4 and just told her I was going but he never met my wife. 🤐

4 hours ago, Sport Billy said:

Manufacturers will likely switch to making EVs even without government mandates. It’s just where the market is heading. It's kind of wild to think about how fast things are changing and how much different the car scene will be in just a few years. If you're still on the fence about traditional engines vs. electric, there's a useful article on diesel and gasoline engines that might help you weigh your options: https://www.a1autotransport.com/diesel-vs-gasoline-engines/. Breaks down some of the key differences between the two, which could be handy when you're deciding what kind of vehicle is right for you.

That doesn’t seem to be a very balanced article. 
 

Diesel engines are more efficient but diesel is more expensive at the pump. Diesel engines emit less CO2 but a higher level of other air pollution. Whilst not as bad, diesel engines are still noisier (I think) and whilst diesel engines may be need less maintenance I believe the cost of such maintenance is higher for a diesel.

Another article I found seems to suggest the “best” type of fuel may depend on the sort of journeys you generally do.

Regarding electric cars, the two things that still put me off at the moment, despite improvements, is the purchase cost and the range.

2 hours ago, Magicman said:

I hope they draw 

 

I hope the results irrelevant. 

21 hours ago, therealhantsram said:

I think the midweek game doesn't matter. Posh and Bolton will be planning for a meet at Wembley in a few week's time. Neither will want gift the other the psychological advantage of crushing win.

As a result, they'll both still be going for it on the final day. They will want the mental advantage for Wembley.  

I wouldn't be surprised if their fear on injury and desire to rest key players ahead of the play offs 6 days later might override their drive to secure a psychological advantage, especially if one team (Posh) have zero chance of doing any better than making the play offs.

26 minutes ago, bcnram said:

The decision should only be overturned if it is ' a clear and obvious mistake'. The ref in front of the screen only has to take a look and decide that is too close to call so the goal stands. 

This.

On 22/04/2024 at 13:27, old tray boy said:

I suppose after the Pitch invasion anyway the spiteful FA can then Dock us 146 points and promote Mickleover instead.

It would be the EFL docking points not the FA.

And I'm not sure Bolton and Peterborough would be best pleased if Mickleover were promoted in our place. 😀

54 minutes ago, Animal is a Ram said:

 

Old news isn't it?

5 minutes ago, MadAmster said:

Some bloke posted on FB that he'd got 15 from Carlisle and was selling them at 30 quid a pop. 

Doesn't this constitute ticket touting and isn't ticket touting illegal? If so, it doesn't sound like a very sensible thing to advertise the fact that you're doing it.

11 hours ago, Chesterfield_Ram said:

Must be the case, as I’ve never heard of this particular rule before.
 

However, I do know that teams have to prove they can follow the rules of the league, which is why they have to apply to join when coming in from the national league. From the Price of football podcast I recall them talking about how teams have to provide business plans to join the league 2 after promotion when the national league to show they can meet ffp rules. Also, my local team Chesterfield have been talking about how they have had to upgrade their floodlights to meet the minimum standard the EFL sets out.
 

I just presume the application process, where Gateshead were rejected, was used to prevent teams not being ready to at the season.

I’m not sure about a business plan but there is definitely a list of criteria teams in the National League have to meet before they are allowed to join the EFL. The list includes floodlights, playing surface, ground capacity and presumably, security of tenure of the ground they play at. Ten years does sound a bit excessive but I would imagine Gateshead have known all along that this was a requirement.

1 hour ago, Charliegeorge1962 said:

This thread should be renamed doom & gloom.😂

No, it should be renamed “if the unthinkable happens”. Just because we are debating what might happen elsewhere if we do slip up doesn’t mean to say any of us really think it’s likely to happen. 

8 hours ago, Grimbeard said:

I can't believe that there is another club in the world where, in our posistion, a seemingly sizable section of the fanbase would want the manager kicked out.

Yes I suppose it would be nice to watch Jim Smith or peak Mac type football every week, but , how can I put this?

We've got no feckin' money. Yes we may have a higher wage budget than many in this league, (or not, I don't know) but given the restraints and time frame he's had to work in I think P.W's done a crackig job.

Depends on your definition of “sizeable section of the fan base”. It only takes a dozen or so vocal individuals on social media voicing their opinion (which of course they are entitled to) to make it appear as if their views are reflective of a much larger group.

My gut feeling is: a very small majority have total faith in PW’s ability to keep us in the Championship whilst at the same time playing decent football, a small minority want him gone now regardless, some have accepted he is here to stay next season but have already made up their minds that it’s going to be dross, but the overwhelming majority, whilst they may have concerns, think he deserves the chance to prove himself and are trying not to prejudge him.

1 hour ago, BaianoPOTY98 said:

Who said I’d got the answer? Clowes went for the quick fix to try get us out of league 1, which looks like it worked. The other answer was to either stay with Rosenior or bring in another young manager with new coaching ideas to try get us out this league playing attractive football. As you rightly said if things didn’t go right from the off fans would want him gone. So maybe Clowes did get it right? My argument is I am paying good money to be entertained, which for 90 per cent of the home games, I haven’t been🤔

And how long do you think said “young manager with new coaching ideas to TRY get us out this league” would have lasted before the mob would be calling for his head? How long would we put up with “well at least were playing attractive football”?

1 hour ago, Gerry Daly said:

This is good news. They are effectively forfeiting the midweek game taking them out of the equation as far as we are concerned but will then play a full strength, rested side against Bolton on Saturday

That's why it's bad news. Surely we want a good Posh win on Tuesday (maybe by 4 goals) so they make a bit of an effort against Bolton. 

22 minutes ago, eddielewis said:

I find it hypocritical of the EFL to allow Coventry twice the 11th hour to find a home ground to play at both Northampton and Birmingham just for the upcoming season but they can't allow Gateshead if hypothetically they got promoted (big chance they would not) let's say until the end of July to find a solution to their ground.

I think the difference is because Coventry were already members of the EFL. I assume clubs don't have to reapply every year 

I sympathise with Gateshead but I think they were already given between November and March to find a solution. If they'd been given until the end of July that could have thrown up all sorts of issues including fixture lists.

48 minutes ago, eddielewis said:

From what I've read of the situation National League teams have to apply for promotion to the Football League at the start of the league season which was accepted so the EFL and National League both knew of Gateshead's ground situation which I don't think has changed for years.

To just boot them out at this stage is just cruel. Why should there need to be a 10 year security on a stadium when EFL clubs for example aren't required to show an equivalent financial security for that long of a period.

 

It looks like they have to apply in November and confirm they have met all the qualifying criteria, presumably including security of tenure which I agree seems a little over the top, by 1st March.

My guess therefore is that their application was accepted SUBJECT TO meeting the criteria which they must have failed to do. 

If this is true, Gateshead would have known they couldn't gain promotion until they had secured the required tenure. I would imagine the announcement has been made so late because 1) they were trying to negotiate a longer lease and 2) they appealed the decision and therefore an official announcement couldn't be made until the appeal had been heard.

The timing is horrible and perhaps, as soon as they had earned their place in the play offs, the club should have gone public on the possible barrier (assuming they didn't).

Tamworth will be playing in the National League next season but they will know they can't gain promotion to league 2 as it stands as they play on a 3G artificial turf pitch. So, similarly to Gateshead, they can apply in November but they'll know they'll need to change the pitch if, by some miracle, they finish in the play off places (or above) and want to go up/compete in the play offs.

That's my reading of the situation anyway.

14 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said:

I think we need a poll:

The real reson for the Burton Albion ambivalence:

Lover left him for a Burton fan?

Lover left him to become a full time Burton fan?

Goodyear fan?

Misplaced A38 based rage?

 

 

Add "bullied by a little brother/cousin as a child" to the list. 😀

14 hours ago, rammieib said:

This is a testament to Nelson and Cash for me.

Can't it be a testament to all three of them? A testament to the whole defence, in fact the whole team including Wildsmith. 

8 hours ago, uttoxram75 said:

Celebrate the return of the Rams after very nearly being killed by Steve Gibson, Rick Parry, Kieran Maguire and that arse from Wycombe,

Go on the pitch/don't go on the pitch, just stay in the ground and enjoy the day then retire to a pub crawl round town.

Merry Widows, Neptune, Metro Bar, Tiger Bar, White Horse, Noahs Ark, Jorrocks, Dolphin, Bess of Hardwick etc. 

If someone would be so kind as to shovel me on the last train to Utch it would be greatly appreciated.

 

COYR 

Exactly. Anyone who accuses us of being tinpot because we’re celebrating finishing 2nd in league one (baring a disaster on Sunday) needs to be reminded that it’s more than simply promotion we’ll be celebrating. The club, and its supporters, have been to hell and back over the last couple of years and this will be the first chance we’ve had to celebrate anything. Even the last day survival against Sheffield Wednesday was in the Covid year.

OK, so we’ve not won the cup, we’ve not even won the league 1 title so let’s not get too carried away with open bus tours or anything but let’s celebrate the moment.

oh, and if you do go on the pitch, can we please find a way to still allow the players and their families to do their lap of appreciation?

Although the club probably felt they had to publicly ask supporters to stay off the pitch, if it does happen, perhaps after a short period of time, they could announce that if those on the pitch would return to the stands the players would do their lap (advising the players in advance that this is the plan if there is a pitch invasion)?

Such an announcement might encourage those still in the stands to hang around as well.

14 minutes ago, Elwood P Dowd said:

He played effectively today 

Which is good right? Which means he played well? 
 

6 minutes ago, GeneralRam said:

Just need Peterborough to beat Cheltenham in their next game so they have something to play for and to keep Burton up.

That’s what I was thinking. We don’t want them to roll over against Bolton (like Barnsley did against them last season) just in case we do the unthinkable next weekend.

2 minutes ago, GeneralRam said:

Derby Legend? Excuse me.

I suspect @ariotofmyown might just have been joking. 😀

3 minutes ago, trappatoni said:

Yes the kids would probably love to run on the pitch.   

The players come over to the crowd every single game - the idea that somehow fans being on the pitch for 5 minutes would prevent them coming back out is just miserable b'stards who have nothing better to moan about.  Time was fans went on the pitch last game of every season - it did no harm. 

If fans just went on the pitch for 5 minutes (without harassing the other team or the officials) and then returned to the stand in order to allow the players to come back out that would be OK but, something tells me it wouldn’t quite happen like that.

Maybe I’m one of the miserable b’stards you’d referring to but I don’t think so. I know I’m not some 12 year old that feels the need jump around on the pitch just because we’ve secured promotion to the Championship.