darren22

Well done to players, management and fans. Stood up and were counted on the biggest day of the season so far. Seven games to go, but there is clear blue water now.

SOME Wycombe fans (and I stress "some") are now in the stage of trying to justify what Coupiggy is doing: 

The difference is "pal", that no other clubs actively did things that jeopardised the survival of Wycombe in the way that their owner has now done to 2 clubs. 

Unfounded, ha.
Wycombe knew we couldn't defend their claim as we didn't have time and it was a potential blocker to a sale. It was extortion plain and simple. Revolting little club.

Eiran Cashin well hung, he's got a massive knob
He wears very tight trousers, so you can see his knob
He went out with Ulrika, she said "what a massive wang"
And he plays for Derby, have I mentioned his massive wang?

Right, I've been moaning about the state of our performances all season but I'm parking that for the run in.
Off arse or elbow I do not care, just win the games and get out of this tinpot league.

Even though the referee got the decision wrong they still had possession of the ball again but lost it.  It couldn’t have happened to a nicer team 🤣

Instead of trying to cause an argument on here why not give your opinion the other way in a positive spin instead of digs at fellow posters in a forum for opinions which people are entitled too!! 
 
I read posts from both points of view pro warne negative warne and can see valid points from both. One opinion is no more valid than the other 

And it's becoming ever increasingly apparent that we have been right all this time.
There's only a handful of you left.

Sometimes football is not pure black and white …some don’t seem over bothered with Warne and how we play and others are saying they won’t attend next season with Warne in charge 
yet we are currently second which enpowers some arguments/ views  but others see it differently 
regardless of league position I often find myself thinking …wow this is poor and it’s mainly due to lack of control in the games we seem to want to play percentage football 
I remember the Graham Taylor days at Watford where they went from Div4 to Div1 where Taylor employed someone who worked it out the percentages of which ball was likely to end up in a goal and it was quite industrial route one stuff but I guess it was deemed successful as Watford went through the leagues but to me it was awful to watch 
managers who have been seen as succesful  yet parted company with there teams include Pulis at Stoke and Big Sam at a couple of clubs …why ? Mainly because it was crap to watch and the fans complained but some didn’t mind as long as results were ok 
my problem is and it’s no way having a go at others who differ in there opinion but I genuinely find our matches very hard to watch a lot of the time 
The first 20 against Charlton I really enjoyed but those passages are few and far between we seem to want to get involved in a chaotic non controlling type of game where we must get it forward sometimes when it’s not really on 
we don’t seem to ever play patient controlled football and wait for the right openings …and we have some very good players who would thrive at it in this division especially 
L1 is poor , if all 24 teams were of a poor ish standard  someone would still be top of that league and that’s where we’re at 
I really don’t see anyone as a good side and don’t think any of the top 6 would worry Ipswich or Plymouth from last season 
The big problem I see is next season with possibly QPR Reading or Sheff  Weds Rotherham ( L1 specialists !! ) Wrexham Mansfield ( who I think will surprise some ) Charlton and maybe Peterborough I think the league looks more difficult 
if we make the play offs I can see us playing like we did under Rowett in the play offs …and that was the last time I felt like I do now….where I look forward and get nervous and excited before every game …..then during the game think …this is crap …and sometimes we’re winning when I think that …
I will shout and support my team until the end of this season but I’m not enjoying it ….2nd or not! 
 
But fair play if you are enjoying it 
 

I almost wish the Super League had happened and the domestic leagues had refused to have anything to do with the 'big 6' ever again.....

It's based on what has been served up all season, not a knee jerk reaction. I'm finding this constant defending of what is poor football, poor tactics, poor recruitment, poor game management quite tiresome to be honest. It's like some people are being positive for positives sake. I'm guessing these people don't attend the games or don't even watch them? They just look at the league table and think 'ooo that looks nice'.
I'm there every home game (never boo and never will), but I see what is being served up and it is tripe. 
Even his bobble hat is crap now.

1) Agreed
2) From a business perspective, I believe the Championship will be worth an extra £7-10m in revenue. Of course our costs go up but who doesn't want this. 
I'd also suggest - we stay down, Bird is already gone, I am sure Cashin will move on (We just get a decent fee) so what will we be left with? Our better ball playing players will have left (Bird, Cashin, Hourihane), a manager playing lump it football, a depleted squad size, a manager who seems to struggle to attract good attacking players (Which attacking players has he bought in who are a success - even Wilson for all his skill doesn't contribute much in goals/assists). It's a disaster waiting to happen under Warne.

Will never boo our team at end of match but was tempted last night. If we dont go up I would sack PW immediately. Season tickets will be down if fans are faced with another season of this football in league 1. If we do go up I would still sack him immediately. PW has shown nothing to suggest he will even consolidate us staying up in championship. I wouldnt want PW involved in any way in more player decisions at the club if it was my money. I would hope david clowes is planning for both scenarios and has someone who will give him good footballing advice. Having said that I will trudge for every home match, support team and manager whilst there and trudge home again, and even desperately try for at least one away. 

I’d honestly love to see what others are seeing when they defend this stuff. 
 
Football is garbage and when the results eventually turn all you’re left with is awful football. 

I said it at the beginning of the season and got moaned at - At home we have been ok about twice whilst losing to two league two sides in the cups as well - try selling season tickets to watch that garbage again.We have the players to actually play real football and look decent

Only a fool would sack PW now, DC is no fool so unless PW walks he's here until the seasons end, Charlton not won for 20+ games, Nathan Jones has had an effect, Not the same effect PW has had on us, It's not a good look losing to Charlton, The manager takes the plaudits when we went on a good run...now he's in the firing line...and rightly so.
This division is shyte we all know that, I look at Sonny Bradley and see that PW is determined to find a place for him, We're more suited to a back 4, So that would leave Bradley out of the team, PW has to hold his hand up again and say "I got it wrong again" but he wont.
I don't see automatics now, Chelsea were slated by Gary Neville as "billion pound bottle jobs" you have to have the bottle to lose it, I never thought we had it in the 1st place...excluding Adams.
Some very angry posters on here tonight...and I understand why 👍 

An absolute stinker of a performance by the Rams 😖😖😖

We all new what was coming,but not to worry we lost to one of the best teams in the league.dont worry,the bobblehat knows what he is doing,nobody else  knows what he is doing,but in Warne we trust

Sack him for the love of God.
If we want another season in league 1 (and perhaps many more) let's stick with him. If we want out in what is a very easy year, sack him.

I'm disappointed he's still our manager, yes. But it's clear he's not going anywhere. He'll not be here forever. For now the best thing I can think of doing is supporting the team, and trying not to let Warne tarnish my love for this club.

Forest fans were regularly singing about us even though we're 2 leagues apart mate and it wasn't one or two of them! It's as if the severity of our punishment was not enough for fans to endure, we needed to watch our club burnt to the ground. Of course often it was just a relatively modest portion of opposition fans, but then you have the likes of Birmingham City who went out of their way to make it feel unpleasant.
The way I feel about it is that I don't mind if a man doesn't help me when I'm on the floor, but if he kicks me while I'm down, he'd best hope I don't get up again. Some teams' fans created divides during our troubles that it'll take a long old while for some of our lot to forgive and whilst I don't dwell on it much myself, I certainly don't blame those who remain angry.

You are solely looking at the results angle & everything about Paul Warne is pure short term focus leaving little else to justify his tenure here. What you're overlooking is his long term unsuitability & that also has to be factored into conversations about whether he stays or not. The quality of football is poor & a sizeable section of the fanbase do not enjoy watching it (with potential knock on effect for future PP crowd numbers), he doesn't particularly improve players, there is a misalignment with Academy pathway (refusing to even use EFL Trophy matches to give youngsters game time) & preferred transfer strategy in order for the club to achieve sustainability. Warne wants the likes of Sonny Bradley & Conor Washington to secure his promotion (and Michael Smith given half a chance)...the club will struggle to be sustainable with these types of signings. We brought in Mark Thomas last year to identify cheap, develop & sell high...Warne is not suited to this model.
Clowes appointed Warne to get us a quick promotion & that was the expectation of everyone when he was appointed (and why Rosenior was let go). To take your most extreme hypothetical scenario, as the pure remit for Warne being here is a short term focus of promotion, then defeat at Wembley would still be complete failure with no guarantee of promotion the next year & need to continue down the highly paid experienced pro with no resale value route that Warne prefers. I suspect Clowes will be considering how much longer he can tolerate that misalignment with the long term DCFC strategy come May should we faill to go up.

I did mot say “Warne Out”, although elsewhere in this thread I said I have journeyed back to that side of the argument.
What I, and many others actually want isn’t an endless string of 5 - 0 victories. All we want is for the team to turn up and play football to our strengths. Instead Warne sets us up to be like labourers doffing their caps to the landed gentry. Despite what it looks like after the vast majority of our matches we are better than this, and it is the opposition who should be worried about us and having to set up to best deal with our threat. To always send a team out with a predominance of defensive-minded players tells the opposition we are running scared.
We are capable of so much more, such as playing a good passing game. After the fans gave Warne a right bowlocking we went through a phase of keeping the ball on the ground and even using the misfield a bit more, which coincided with our good run. But that has cone to an end and we have reverted to aerial assault mode - and the run has come to an end. Funny hiw that works, and we’ve done it two seasons in a row.
And yet again we went ahead and then sat back, hardly laying a glove on them once we’d scored.
You are right to point out that our stats do look rather good, but with that absolute tosh we keep dishing up shouts from the rooftops just how bad this division is. We aren’t where we are because we are so good, just that we are not as bad as the rest of them.
Being second to everything in midfield is a case in point. So many times our clearance headers are deliberately headed up and forwards so the ball travels in an arc. Up and forwards takes a higher priority than controlling the ball and/or getting the ball to a team mate, like the opposition seem to manage almost every time. It us what led to the equaliser. Hourihane does it all the tome, not just with headers. The number of times his skill set consists of just looping thr ball up and forwards to nowhere near a team mate is ridiculous. And he can do it blind, as shown by the number of times he sends the ball backwards over his shoulder …… to no one. And so many times there is the opportunity to get the ball down and give it to a team mate. But no ….. up and over it is, and then back come the opposition.
And re not going to Wembley. It isn’t from not wanting us to get promoted. It is because having retired last August my income has more then halved. My wife’s childminding business was killed off by lockdown, and she has been stabbed in the back by the increase in the women’s pensionable age by a Government who care as much for the poor, sick and elderly as Warne does for attractive football. As such I cannot justify blowing a massive hole in my budget to watch the team throw away yet another opportunity to get promoted. I don’t have the money to gamble on the remote chance we might fluke a win.
It doesn’t mean I don’t want promotion - I’ve been a Ram since the early 1970’s, so I’ve seen some rubbish in that time. But I have never been so angry  as I am now.
 

Fester particularly grate me because the narrative of them being a wonderful club who did things the right way.... except for screwing over their creditors......