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    Adslegend reacted to sunnyhill60 in Wayne Rooney press conference   
    What an unbelievable post!
    "simply doing his job" I doubt he signed up for or expected to be doing the job that he has now
    " He can’t really lose in this situation" Derby are still odds on to be relegated, that is losing, and some would put the blame on him
    " I prefer to see a response on the pitch" if you haven't seen a response on the pitch this season compared to the final months last season you're not looking
    "hand some bibs out, put a few cones down, answer a few questions" and part with some of his own money to keep the show on the road
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    Adslegend reacted to Gringo in Wayne Rooney press conference   
    I just listened his presser and I have to say I felt very emotional through it,  I am not at all sentimental but this bought a lump to my throat, I doubt there is another manager in all 4 leagues that I would rather have than Wayne at the moment, any criticism of him now would be tantamount to treason.
    cometh the hour cometh the man.
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    Adslegend reacted to uttoxram75 in Wayne Rooney press conference   
    So not Rooney himself, just his PR team?
    Come on fella, give the bloke a break. He's acted with tremendous dignity throughout all this while giving his all to keep the players motivated. 
     
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    Adslegend reacted to BucksRam in Wayne Rooney press conference   
    Just listened to the interview - thanks @RoyMac5 for the link. 
    Have to say it got me a bit emotional which surprised me. Rooney's comments, attitude, support, empathy and God knows how many other superlatives was nothing short of outstanding. 
    100% cleared up questions around communication with Mel confirming Mel's ignored him since early August - utterly shameful behaviour. 100% cleared up questions about Mel's total lack of care, simply repeating his cold, insincere radio speech to staff and players whose livelihoods he's put at real risk  100% cleared up the questions of whether he's personally funded some things - he has, so the players and staff have what they need to progress. 100% cleared up questions around what he thought of Mel - and as direct as he still was, he was clearly being diplomatic. 100% cleared up his commitment to this club, the players, the staff and us fans.  We've had other threads opining views on Rooney but in my honest opinion, this bloke is already a legend just for sticking by us and for doing what he's done with the team despite everything going on.  He seriously could afford to walk away, but for the council estate lad who fought for everything he has, he simply won't unlike our esteemed previous owner.  Credit too the players who could so easily capitulate.  And credit tot to LR & Co who resolutely stand by Rooney. 
    What I do get out of this, and the Administrator's press conference, is that there is a huge belief in this club, regardless of whether we remain in the Championship, or, more likely L1 and that mid to long term we will come again better, fitter and stronger.  
    I have honestly been doom and gloom this past few days, but today, there's a ray of light for me, that those in the wings might, just might genuinely want to see us good, and not simply cash in and see us fade ingloriously away.  
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    Adslegend reacted to CornwallRam in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    The Rush thing is strange. None of us know quite what happened and I doubt he was squeaky clean, but there are several questions which need answering before we can fully condemn him:
    Why did Mel have to settle out of court and pay him compensation if he was such a villain?
    If his dealings were so bad, why was this not noticed by the Chairman or the CFO?
    Why did the wage bill rise significantly after he left?
    If he is such a crook, why is Andy Appleby so keen to work with him again?
    Personally, I have no idea either way, but I'm not sure we can condemn him purely on the words of Mel Morris.
     
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    Adslegend reacted to Red_ram in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    I just noticed this little mention and was gonna post too. Didn’t listen to everything today so didn’t know if I’d missed something, searched the forum and came up with nowt too.
    So Sam Rush was oft painted as the villain of the piece. With Mel’s mask well and truly slipping and the fact they settled with Sam out of court, does that mean he wasn’t actually the problem?
    After the events of 3 amigos, ‘the Americans’ were treated with a lot of scepticism throughout but did a good job all in all and Appleby always came across well. Wouldn’t mind him back involved at all.
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    Adslegend reacted to Animal is a Ram in Wayne Rooney press conference   
    After a rough month accidentally injuring Jason Knight, and the hotel room sleeping incident, the man has been a beacon for the club.
    Criticise his on the pitch stuff, fine. But even that's been improving. You cannot criticise how he's handled the backroom stuff. 
    Lampard always felt like he was only using the club as a stepping stone. The same can't be said for Rooney - it feels like he actually cares.
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    Adslegend reacted to RamontheMoor in Wayne Rooney press conference   
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    Adslegend reacted to CornwallRam in Wayne Rooney press conference   
    Rooney confirmed that he has been funding things from his own pocket. 
    Heroic 
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    Adslegend reacted to minesahartington in Wayne Rooney press conference   
    “How do you handle the pressure Wayne”
    ” I have had pressure since I was 16, I have no problem with pressure, it’s my job to help other people, staff, players handle the pressure”
    Right man, right time
     
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    Adslegend reacted to DerbySmog in Wayne Rooney press conference   
    "would you be interested in investing in the club?" 
     
    "I'm not that stupid" ???
     
    Great to hear him slating Morris. 
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    Adslegend reacted to minesahartington in Wayne Rooney press conference   
    In Wayne’s opinion Mel not sincere and not spoken honestly…
    What a change 
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    Adslegend reacted to ram59 in Football, the broken model   
    Just been watching Sky sports news and what hit me was the irony of 2 topics of their program this morning.
    First they were waxing lyrical over 'Liverpool's' future superstar wonder kid, Kaide Gordon and within minutes were discussing the demise of our club. They didn't mention at all the fact that Liverpool virtually 'stole' him from us.
    How unfair is the system whereby a club has invested heavily in its academy, loses a player worth 10s of millions for a pittance. Nevermind the rights or wrongs of how Derby have got in this mess with overspending elsewhere, we have also spent money in the right place to develop a talent worth tens of millions of pounds, but without getting the reward.
    No offense to Kaide or to Liam Delap, but if they had had the interests of the club at heart, like Jude Bellingham at Birmingham, we would be a lot better off. Jude Bellingham waited until his 17th birthday before signing professionally for the Blues, who then immediately sold him to Dortmund for £25M. You can't blame our youngsters because they may have picked up a career ending injury before their 17th, but you can blame the football system which allows this to happen.
    So because of the different attitudes of three 16 year olds, Blues are plus £25M and Derby plus £2M when it should be plus £50M.
    Derby's academy should have been able to clear our debts, but the system has prevented it.
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    Adslegend reacted to observer in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    Derby as a club wont cease to exist at all, however the outcome or future there will still be a presence. The infratstructure and potential is too big for it to just stop,
    yes its a poo situation BUT come on FFS all this negativity etc etc.
    how I see it we either own the stadium or are due the money from it, its worthless as anything other than a football stadium.
    in a months time it will be better  and we can start to see what the future holds but its not the end!!!
     
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    Adslegend reacted to Tamworthram in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    To be honest, I only look at other fans forums if we have just beaten them (so, not often ?). 
     
    I think, if you’re not careful, you can interpret too much from reading such forums. The comments you see may not represent the majority view or even the true views of those posting. For example, I’m sure we’d all have a laugh and say it serves them right if Forest were in our predicament but, deep down, many of us (me included) would be sorry to see a club in such a mess.
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    Adslegend reacted to BramcoteRam84 in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    30000+ fans don’t just disappear. Granted we wouldn’t get 20K + gates but we’d have a core 10-15k at least and there will be odd games where we’d sell 25-30k. A lot would depend on the terms on which we get the ground. 
    If we did have to ground share with Notts/Chesterfield- we’d sell out those grounds regularly - huge advantage over the other teams. 
    It’s in no ones interest for Derby to be in division 10 and win every single game (could happen), so I think there would be a negotiation with the National League about what division to start in, I wouldn’t be surprised if we ended up in the conference, but more likely conference north (div 6), or worst case (div 7). 
     
    If we became a Phoenix club we’d be back in the championship in 10 years. If we end up in League 2, 5 years, League 1, anything between 1 and 3 years IMO. If Luton can get back we can - we’ve only spent 5 season in 3rd division in our history. 
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    Adslegend reacted to Ambitious in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    The irony, of course, is that season in question: Derby had 9th highest wage bill in the Championship (£40m) and Middlesbrough had the 4th highest wage bill in the Championship with £49m. Yet, it claims that we made it impossible for other teams to compete fairly? Aston Villa had a wage bill of £83m that same season, double ours. It's an outrageous claim. 
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    Adslegend reacted to Ghost of Clough in Players asked to defer wages   
    Deferral is different to being late. Presumably there are required steps to take, not least approval from the players themselves and the EFL before actually implementing a deferral.
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    Adslegend reacted to BramcoteRam84 in Mel Morris interview on Radio Derby 1pm   
    I listened to the interview. I think Ed did an ok job, easy for us to stand back and say he didn’t ask that or he didn’t ask this. Not all the questions we wanted answering were answered but they were never going to be. 
    Mel made some extremely valid points. The football financial model is broken. It isn’t a level playing field. Only 2 non-parachute payment clubs have secured promotion without breaking P&S. Parachute payment clubs are insulated to Covid, clubs recently promoted have a cost base that can cope and will make equal/more revenue from additional TV money that balances out loss of gate revenues, the non parachute funded clubs with bigger attendances who have been showing ambition and pushing the boundaries of P&S just to try and compete with the parachute funded clubs were always going to be hit harder by Covid. Without Covid we wouldn’t be going into administration. All those points cannot be argued. We were starting to cut our cloth accordingly with Cocu but then Covid pulled the rug out from under us. It can’t be denied it’s a fact.
    His comments about the inconsistencies and punitive nature of the EFL were also interesting. The defence of our amortisation policy was fierce and in my opinion completely valid. Its a disgrace we’re in the dock over this - anyone who says otherwise is swallowing the guff that the EFL are clubs pushing them on this are leaking out to the national press to build this ridiculous idea we are cheats.  The EFL are not fit for purpose and an independent regulator is required.
    Mel even admitted he gambled and failed but that’s the only way to compete season after season against parachute funded clubs, that is no different to other owners of clubs who avoided P&S issues through being fortunate enough to be promoted.
    But the interview didn’t cover/push the fact he gambled but wouldn’t stand behind his debts and plunged us into administration up to the eyeballs in debt (unless we’re taking from today he no longer has the means), glossed over his mismanagement in particular wages, joiners gate etc.
     
    He also seems to think administration will be the miracle cure that gets us a new buyer to take us forward, with £60m debt majority of which won’t be wiped through the process and will need servicing at some point. Until we get a buyer, who will be funding the £1-£1.5m Mel has been funding up to now, how will we pay players? Will it just be more points deductions for not paying players or could it be worse, at what point will the club be forced to liquidate and how quickly could that arise - could it be before Jan as we can’t sell any players until then, so will we need to sell moor farm to get us through (given Mel still has PP for the moment although he has said he will offer that up to the new buyer as part of this deal). None of these questions have been answered and frankly I’m not bothered about all the other points he made, it’s already done, cannot change it, I want to know how this club can survive until January now he has taken this decision to put us in administration and threaten the club’s existence.
    Im pleased he did the interview, I think he tried his best I think he cares about the club but he will always be remembered as the owner who nearly killed the club, let’s hope he’s not remembered and the owner who killed it.
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    Adslegend reacted to Ramtastic ones in Mel Morris interview on Radio Derby 1pm   
    I started out in kiddies corner back in the early seventies. I saw us beat Real Madrid at the BBG and I was there for many other great games. Many will have been rams fans for much longer and seen greater days. I have a programme from the '46 cup final given to me by grandad. Derby is in my DNA. Let's hope that we survive this and let's use our energy in a positive way.
    MM, love him or hate him, has gone. We, as true fans move on and do what we can - support the players and staff in a positive way. Energy focused on the old guard is wasted. Pride park is our home and pride is what we have.
    I will still go to the matches. My 13 year old son will come with me - he is still firmly a Ram even though he lives in an area (Grantham) dominated by forest fans. He dreams of those great days that I witnessed. If he can stay loyal so can we. COYR.
     
     
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    Adslegend reacted to Red Ram in Mel Morris interview on Radio Derby 1pm   
    They did exactly that. MM said they looked at 25,000 historical transfers and correlated them to remaining contract length. The defence of our amortisation policy was the strongest part of the interview.
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    Adslegend reacted to NottsRammy in Mel Morris interview on Radio Derby 1pm   
    The biggest thing for me was the reveal that on the 2nd sitting of the panel judging our accounts we had no accountant on it like the first time who was totally happy with how Derby did it .
    Do you not think  on its own that this stinks and certainly shows the EFL are not giving Derby a fair crack of the whip , i happen to think that what Mel said about how Derby have judged their player values as perfectly o.k .This in my opinion should be abled to be judged at a much higher level than it has been as i think deffo Mel has upset people in the EFL before this and they have been out to get him no matter what the cost ( Stevie gibson comes to mind ) . 
    Im not saying im sticking up for Mel as he should really have batted on a straight wicket and he has tried to bowl a few to many googlies .
    But the fact remains on the fact of who sat on the 2nd sitting if its true absolutely stinks and doesnt put the EFL in a very good light at all.
    Surely Derby as a club can take this further . . 
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    Adslegend reacted to jono in Mel put us in Administration because......   
    He’s messed up on a monumental scale. Covid was the nail in the coffin he’d already made on the advice of others that he was too vain or foolish to question.
    it’s going to go on for 3 years or more to know where we stand even if we manage to survive. 
    The EFL are not a worthy representative organisation 
    The rules and regs as they are currently constructed are full of flaws and loopholes. They are policed unevenly and in a way the encourages self interest rather than equitable solutions
    Mel’s windfall when involved in world changing industries like cyber dating  and mobile gaming convinced him he was a skilled entrepreneur rather than a bit of a chancer with an eye to an opportunity. 
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    Adslegend reacted to Yani P in Season 21 - 22 survival bid statistics   
    Ok so I love a stat so thought it might be useful to start putting forward some stats based guesswork as to what real chance we might have of survival this season. We can then review it as the season progresses.
    It might not be everyones cup of tea but I felt like I had to work on something as it has been a very sad couple of days and having listened to Morris this morning with his zero compassion for what he has created it just made me even sadder to be honest.
    Caveats before I start (and I know they are big ones!) - 
    I am assuming that we retain Wayne, his team and the squad we currently have (this of course is complete guesswork until the Administration starts I am currently assuming a 16 point deduction scenario which is the one that seems reasonably solid so far (sadly I believe it cant get better than this, only potentially worse) So today we are on 10 points, better than many expected (I read threads where people thought we would be bottom by the end of September and that was without a penalty). I see this as positive in so many ways, we are top half, we are playing well and the squad are up for the fight and are working their socks off for the Club and their manager.
    I believe the old adage that when you start off in the relegation zone it sets the tone for the year. We certainly saw that last season. So yes we will be bottom once the deduction kicks in, but I would hope the mindset will be totally different . Last season we were relegation fight material for pretty much the entire season, that is difficult to shake off. This season we are not and the players know we are not so I envisage a far more positive reaction from us when the deduction hits and we are bottom.
    The first graphic just shows the gameweek by gameweek position of each team - I have kept this and all other stats I have since 1968 lol..as you can see, Derby are reasonably consistent never top 6 never bottom 3. I have added our 20-21 season at the bottom for comparison. I do think this is a useful indicator although its early days still.
    The next table shows our points totals for every season since our return from the Premier League. We average just over 65 points per season obviously there are some highs and lows in there. If we hit our average before the deduction, we should be safe (51 points net).
    The next table shows the minimum points needed to stay up and the highest points that still got you relegated. We were pretty lucky last year with 44 as the average has been just shy of 48 (again since we were relegated). 54 points has been relegated once (very unlucky) but if we did hit our average (net 51) we would only have been relegated in 2 seasons since our return to the Championship and in one of those seasons another team on 51 stayed up on goal difference so potentially only once would we have missed out.
    Looking at this season we are currently 12th but its all about points and most importantly the performance of our rivals as we need three teams to be below us obviously. We are currently just 3 points ahead of the relegation zone (in effect net -13). All 3 of last seasons promoted teams are below us but there are teams down there that you might expect to climb out (Forest and Swansea as examples). Compare this to last season, we were already bottom 3 – interestingly as a gauge 12th place was on 10 points the same as this season.
    Just to give us all a bit of hope I want to fast forward to the table after 15 games last season. For whatever reason they haven’t put Sheff Weds 6 points deduction in with these week-by-week tables but even with that we were rock bottom on 8 points! And we stayed up even with our abysmal back end of the season.
    We have 10 points now, let’s see how we are tracking against our last season performance after 15 games.
     
    I just really hope that we are at least given a chance to fight this season – that’s all we can ask for.






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    Adslegend reacted to Derbados in Wycombe Consider Legal action (again)   
    Wycombe in a nutshell: 

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