Gringo Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/16214642/Derby-administration-pay-delayed/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=sunfootballtwitter&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1632348153 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 24 points then surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Charlotte Ram said: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/16214642/Derby-administration-pay-delayed/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=sunfootballtwitter&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1632348153 Would this result in a further points deduction? Edited September 22, 2021 by Ram1988 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Just now, DarkFruitsRam7 said: 24 points then surely. Deferral is different to being late. Presumably there are required steps to take, not least approval from the players themselves and the EFL before actually implementing a deferral. Adslegend, RoyMac5, Andicis and 4 others 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Deferral is different to being late. Presumably there are required steps to take, not least approval from the players themselves and the EFL before actually implementing a deferral. I understand that, but it's a very big "if" when it comes to the EFL greenlighting that. Even to a perfectly reasonable sporting body, it's at the very least a cute workaround to whatever the definition of late is. At the end of the day, we're not paying the wages when we said we would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 I don’t like it. The players should be free to say no, without punishment. Some players can afford a deferral more than others. If a life long Derby County fan with 100s of millions in the bank can’t be arsed to sacrifice for the club then why should the players? I’m a Derby fan and I would be saying get me my money or allow me to walk. There is absolutely no certainty this deferral will ever be paid. Are we not just delaying the obvious? atherstoneram, GenBr, Norman and 6 others 2 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 The ever reliable Sun,why should they defer payment,if we can't afford to pay the wages then we really are in a terrible situation,what happens if the club don't get a new owner the wages then become lost. I would imagine the PFA will get involved and advise them not to. It's one thing playing your guts out to try and overcome the 12 point penalty but it's something else when you are being asked to do it for Two Thirds of your agreed contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, Ambitious said: I don’t like it. The players should be free to say no, without punishment. Some players can afford a deferral more than others. If a life long Derby County fan with 100s of millions in the bank can’t be arsed to sacrifice for the club then why should the players? I’m a Derby fan and I would be saying get me my money or allow me to walk. There is absolutely no certainty this deferral will ever be paid. Are we not just delaying the obvious? Surely if the club can't afford to pay the wages at the end of this month then we must be trading while insolvent,a case for liquidation. jono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramslad1992 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Players taking pay cuts. working people losing their jobs. fans in distress as they see their club go up in flames. all the while Mel bails out wiping his arse with £50 notes… an absolute disgrace, I hope he never gets to step foot in pride park ever again. I couldn’t care less how much money he’s spent… Mel Morris will go down as my most hated person to do with Derby County! And I witnessed Nigel Pearson as manager and Mikkel Beck play so that’s saying something! GenBr, sunnyhill60, Mick Brolly and 3 others 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Ramslad1992 said: Players taking pay cuts. working people losing their jobs. fans in distress as they see their club go up in flames. all the while Mel bails out wiping his arse with £50 notes… an absolute disgrace, I hope he never gets to step foot in pride park ever again. I couldn’t care less how much money he’s spent… Mel Morris will go down as my most hated person to do with Derby County! And I witnessed Nigel Pearson as manager and Mikkel Beck play so that’s saying something! If were a lame horse we would have been put down by now. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spondon_ram Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) Gone from a promise to bankroll the club as necessary, to administration, to not paying the players. We are going to break Lutons 30 point deduction record a this rate. I dont hold much respect for a tabloid article but I've been wrong on Mel so much I don't know what to think. At least cover your bills Mel. How many times are the fans and Rooney going to get spat on? Must be COVID .. Edited September 22, 2021 by spondon_ram mike93rh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Well, we'll certainly get the suspended 3 points for previous late payments added on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted September 22, 2021 Author Share Posted September 22, 2021 This is the adminstrators doing they control the club and the bank accounts now, my guess is that MSD will cover the wages they need the ream to continue playing fixtures whilst the club is sold CBRammette and Angry Ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Charlotte Ram said: This is the adminstrators doing they control the club and the bank accounts now, my guess is that MSD will cover the wages they need the ream to continue playing fixtures whilst the club is sold If MSD will cover the wages why ask the players to take a deferral? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted September 23, 2021 Author Share Posted September 23, 2021 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10018763/Derby-County-staff-fear-wont-paid-month-entering-administration.html looks like salaries may be covered by administrators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Charlotte Ram said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10018763/Derby-County-staff-fear-wont-paid-month-entering-administration.html looks like salaries may be covered by administrators Doesn't say that,it says salaries will be a top priority which was a quote from MM. That is not saying they are going to pay them mike93rh and Kingpin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, atherstoneram said: If MSD will cover the wages why ask the players to take a deferral? time to agree/arrange things? I'm not sure MSD would want to give DCFC any money when their position has got to be "give me my money Mr Administrator" atherstoneram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 If wages aren’t paid the 3 points doesn’t matter one jot. It’s breach of contract so pretty certain the players can leave and be free agents. They wouldn’t necessarily get another job elsewhere but it would mean we’d have neither their playing skills or their asset value. That’s the end of the line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 So the pot was nearly empty with not enough in to cover wages,you can see why he went for administration plus the fact furlough ends in a weeks time with other staff back on the payroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Is Morris skint? jimtastic56 and RoyMac5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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