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WHY IZ JOZWIAK MARKING THEIR BIGGEST AND MOST PROLIFIC TARGET MAN AGAIN ??????

This Allsop looks a decent signing as well. A proper upgrade on Marshall and definitely worth taking up 1 of the limited spots we have available. 

Jozwiak marking Turnbull from the corner and we concede. Then the very next set piece he's on Elliot. I understand things are difficult for Wayne and Liam, but come on .... ?

Told he's not in the manager's plans. Of course he won't go to Reading, but he will need to think hard over the rest of the transfer window whether to bide his time at Derby and wait it out until Rooney goes, or to take a move now to play regularly and show the world what he's capable of. 
Is he finally going to get a start tonight against League Two Salford? I hope so, but am not at all sure he will. It must be soul-destroying for the lad.

I’m not a father, but I would not recommend putting your daughter in a hot dog. 

The club should not have been putting this upon @David and the others. 
If they wanted to get the information/their side of the story out there they have established channels to do that, without putting attendees under the inevitable pressure and scrutiny!

Agreed, it doesn’t make any sense for the reasons you mention. 
I can bet you Morrison will not be given the same restrictions/expectations from the manager despite Morrison’s defensive game being no better than Sibleys!

I think the intention was genuinly good. Just the execution of it and the communication after it has been, i'll say, "sub-optimal".
What do fans want to know? Well, all kinds of things that it would be inadvisable to put into the public domain. So, tell some but they can't tell anyone else (under a legal NDA) or just don't tell them at all. It really sucks.
Then we're going onto trying to read subtexts, impressions of how someone felt it went based of a tweet etc etc.
I don't think anyone is going to feel great about it until there is resolution.

I think that's more or less what we will go for with perhaps Stretton starting up front and possibly the midfield configuration being slightly different.
As much as people might want a cup run, we don't have the squad for it and there are a couple players who if they get injured we could quickly be in deep trouble.  

Back on topic.... the one thing I find baffling about the arguments on Sibley from a defensive standpoint is isn't the whole point of playing a 4231 as a system is that you play two defensive midfielders to give the attacking 3 midfielders substantially more creative freedom and less defensive responsibility ?

Agree completely,  like you I think there is a limit to how far you can go trying to control games with Shinnie in the heart of midfield and that we probably need to move past him (especially if we rigidly stick to a 4231).
What I will say though is I actually think some of the issues with him would likely be alleviated if we switched to a 433 and unlike what a lot of people suggest, push him into one of the more advanced positions with a ball player behind him as the deepest player. If he was playing that role he wouldn't have to look to get on the ball as much as when he playing in a double pivot, he'd have to worry less about his positioning (which is only fine both attacking and defending) and he can focus on creating space on the ball with his running and aggressively pressing when we lose possession. We've seen him do this as well for example in the games against Swansea and Birmingham around xmas last year and honestly I thought they were probably the best performances we'd seen from him.

My problem with Rooney’s treatment of Sibley is not that he doesn’t play every minute, it’s more that previously he would be given 10 minutes in a game and be expected to do something within that time to justify him getting longer next time.
It would almost be a self fulfilling prophecy whereby Rooney doesn’t trust Sibley so doesn’t play him often enough, then when he does play Sibley is overly keen and perhaps gets involved in things he shouldn’t which in Rooney’s mind would justify him not trusting him.
So I was glad to see him get 40 minutes on Saturday and hope that that continues or that he gets a start soon. Couple of silly fouls one of which was in a dangerous area but also caused them more problems than anyone else did. Watson may provide more discipline but I can’t say I saw much to justify him being over Sibley on Saturday.

Sibley’s game is built on his ability to break into the box. I don’t think he has the discipline to sit in a central midfield role (yet) and I’m not sure it uses his best attributes to do that either. You want Sibley just behind the main striker, as he’s one of the only players we have who can get up with and go beyond the striker.
Morrison is more of a 10 who stays in the hole, but needs a more free role to be able to make things happen. Neither are suited to be one of the 2 centre Mids in our setup, as it stands. It could work having them both on if we’re chasing a game though, but probably not to start a game

As mentioned on the Huddersfield thread I missed the game down to Our son being born. I’m glad to say he’s home well and healthy! This will be his first game he will be watching along a lifetime of fun and pain that is the normal of following Derby County. 
 
Also had my Father purchase a Derby County baby grow just before my Mrs tried to slip any Villa stuff on him (The same was applied with my other lad) ?
 
Ps thank you for all the messages and well wishes on here ???

Yes @RoyMac5, I did acknowledge that but I want to see WR progress this and impose his style like he said he's going to. Fortune favours the brave. Look at the garbage that resulted from Southgate's lack of testicles. ?

But it's reactive not pro-active. In the final analysis, WR has said he wants the players to be more courageous, so he has to demonstrate faith in their capacity to be brave by modelling brave decisions himself. OK, for game one given the frantic and frenetic build up just to get a squad together but I want to see courageous management going forward. Talk the talk and walk the walk. Football is 90% confidence, but to be confident sometimes means finding confidence from the courage of your convictions not waiting for things to go your way. 

Well me and Steve have at least one thing in common then. 

You lot are something else. ??
Appreciate all the messages, especially the one that said I’m young. Whilst I hear all the you have nothing to apologise for messages, I feel I did and couldn’t just swan back in here like nothing had happened.
Now I have addressed it and the football is back, hopefully we can all draw a line under this episode and move on.
This is a time when we all need to be together right now.

This (upward finger emoji).
The whole structure put all attendees in an invidious position - David may say it wasn't the club's fault but it's hard to see how it can't be given the way it was structured. As others have said, it's only football and certainly no attendee (even Mel) should be personally abused for what was said or happened there. But I do hope those in the club have taken a moment to consider this wasn't the best idea, wasn't handled in the best way possible and certainly was a bit of a hospital pass to those who were then asked to report on it.
But, mostly, to @David sorry to hear that this has impacted you so personally over the past week. Hope you are getting to a place where you can put this behind you and move on to more important things in life - like trying to stop people subvert the swear filters (have to end every post with a silly comment emoji).

We shouldn't even be entertaining this. He was great last season, and in a relegation dog fight, he is the exact player you need. Bags of character and commitment to the cause. 

You can afford to have a Shinnie in your team if you have creative players around him. He stands out because we don’t.

We’ve all seen @David’s apology, in my humble opinion do not take it on your shoulders. I have put my own thoughts in that topic but just wanted to show the appreciation for him by dedicating a topic to him. 

Top bloke who I believe always acts in the best interest of the forum  keep your chest pushed out and your head held high. With no David there would be no forum and for that alone I am grateful.
This should probably be in another thread but I’m guessing this is the most popular and where it will get the most views. 
 
Thanks for all you have done and continue to do. ??
Olly