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If Wayne holds out to the end of the season and we survive (relegation and liquidation) then he might be in with a chance for the United job, which would probably be a lot easier than the Everton job is right now.

Everton need someone neutral (unlike Rafa) that has significant experience in dealing with top level professionals. Rooney has 366 days experience currently and the first part of that wasn’t particularly successful as he tried to learn in the toughest of circumstances. He’s the sort of manager that needs time to get his coaching across, bring in his own characters and build a squad of his liking.

2 weeks of a January transfer window won’t be enough time for him to do this.

9 minutes ago, Leeds Ram said:

It'll be sad if he does go but it's looking like needs must. I can't see us getting 8 million quid for him though given he's only got 18 months on contract, the desperation of our situation, and the slight lowering of fees due to covid. I think 3-5 million is likely to be more accurate. 

We are desperate, yes. However these are premier teams linked and they should be paying market value (or a tad below).

Newcastle have all the new oil/blood money. Burnley have just received £20m for the most one dimensional striker in the prem. Leeds should be made to pay a premium just for being Leeds.

1 minute ago, TuffLuff said:

Ed Dawes hinted a while back that there was a lot of interest in Knight and he would be going in January. His impact on how the team plays has diminished over the course of the season too, although that’s not to say he hasn’t been excellent. If we got anything like £8million, then I’d be very pleased but it’s probably gonna be a bit less than that.

Again. Centre mid is an area we are blessed with depth (compared to the rest of our squad) and have great quality there.

Knight is a great player with a good engine but I also think he has limits which we have seen more and more of since his initial impact when joining the first team squad.

If he does go for a decent fee then hopefully that will be the end of the sales and secure our finances to the end of the season. His place can be filled by someone like Sibley or Morrison and we have Watson, Hutchinson and others in the academy that can add depth if needed.

The title calls him Captain. Are we sure they’ve got all their facts right? ?

Sounds like some tabloid drama to spice up the “bit in the paper” from Nixon.

I don’t doubt that the vultures are circling and looking for a bargain, but of all the players we have remaining I think Curtis is the most loyal and one to have really shown his passion for the club in recent years. If he is looking for a last contract of his career he is free to find a club in the summer, I think he’s here for the fight.

4 hours ago, Seaside Ram said:

What nonsense,  in this case ‘ coffers ‘ is exactly what he is thinking about , his ! 

Do you honestly think a player would ‘ volunteer’ to join a club like Wigan so the club gets a paltry few quid ? 

He should have stayed the season and fought , then got his dream move to Wigan or Rochdale in the Summer .

I’d be thinking about my financial situation too if I was him. He is a professional footballer, he won’t be able to demand the salary he currently does for much longer.

He isn’t first choice for his position and will be further down the order once Bielik is back in the team.

He hasn’t accepted the offer of a transfer, the club (admin) have. We haven’t even heard that he’s agreed terms with a new team yet.

Im not happy that we look like we have to sell players to survive, but I won’t think badly of any player, or think they’ve tarnished their reputation with us, for moving elsewhere at this time.

6 minutes ago, Seaside Ram said:

These players must want to join said clubs when these offers are accepted surely ? So who the hell would want to play in a quarter full ground for Wigan Athletic ?? imagine their away support !!!!!? So in that case he has tarnished his legacy at DCFC for me .

Perhaps his train of thought is that he will unlikely be able to be offered the same terms at Derby anytime soon and if he can get some money into the DCFC coffers by commanding a transfer fee then he is helping out in that way.

He doesn’t owe us anything. He’s been a solid professional for us since he joined, but centre mid is where we are blessed with options (compared to other areas of the squad), so it’s better to accept offers for players like him instead of someone like Kazim or Davies.

3 minutes ago, Derbados said:

Apologies, didn’t mean to upload phone number. Can I resend if personal details are edited out as I’ve had a further response 

Pretty sure it’s fine if the screen grab is just the message part sent to you and not the whole screen

9 minutes ago, one_chop said:

Despite being freezing cold and dropping my drink in the concourse I'm reasonably pleased with the result.

Say what you like about Tom, he has shown so much more this season and is inspired recently.

Lets see this out! COYR

Thought Jozwiak was having a good game. Shame he’s had to make way for a tactical change, but can see why festy is staying on for his pace.

Just now, Eddie said:

Will the last player out of the first team squad please turn off the lights?

Jagielka the biggest loss so far. Hopefully we will have enough to see us through the season once the vultures have picked through the remains.

3 minutes ago, Grumpy Git said:

I'm hearing Wigan?

He’s been a warrior for us. Was unlucky not to be fancied by Cocu when he arrived, but got his head down and became an important part last season.

With the emergence of Thompson and return of Bielik, his position seems to be covered well (currently).

Hope we get somewhere near his value, but anything is a profit as we got him on a free.

3 minutes ago, Unlucky Alf said:

Listen up people..this is fact, Ive just had an email from a very reliable source...please read this is NO wind up.

 

Ok… here goes… the first part you’ll know and probably have read but the other comes from the Admin who spoke to my friend directly this morning. This is my written explanation of what he told me so my words not his…

 

So it seems that the administrators went to the meeting with the EFL yesterday with the expectation that they would leave the meeting being able to name the PB. To do this the EFL stated that DCFC had to fulfil their obligation to show proof of funds and see out the season. Q said we’ll do this via loans until the point at which we name the PB, after which they will put £X of million into the club to see it through to the end of the season – sound plan and one that gives everyone hope / optimism / security. The EFL then said ‘what about the Middlesbrough and Wycombe claims?’ Q answered that ‘legally’ that has no authority and even if it did then they were very confident that they would win the case based on the reality that it has no factual merit and their advice, plus they have followed instruction and rules. The EFL then took the stance that ‘well until this is resolved you cannot name the PB’ which may well be in breach of their own rule book and is certainly a subjective take on how to apply things. Essentially; they are able do what they want and definitely interpret things under the banner of doing so on behalf of their members (excluding Derby obvs). This has caused the latest stand-off and today’s repercussions re. Jagielka.

 

What the Admin / my pal’s take is, is that there is a definite agenda here to punish Derby as heavily as possible. The fact that they have earned the points they have and have bread hope, has in turn led to the feeling that the punishment is not strong enough and that this could set a dangerous precedent for other clubs to break the rules (should Derby achieve the impossible). Clubs are obviously bitter about that and in some ways, I think that’s fair enough and we’d likely feel the same. The issue now quickly shifts towards the fact that the EFL are using these claims as a delaying tactic to push Derby into more uncertainty and force them to either sell players very cheaply (which devalues the club) or persuade the new PB to pay off Middlesbrough and Wycombe (despite the fact there is little legal standing to their claims and the fact the EFL are largely responsible for the delayed timing of the second). My take on that is that whilst morally these clubs, others in the league and the EFL have reason to be pissed off with Derby – it’s a very legally problematic, ambiguous and negatively motivated way of enforcing them – it’s not based on the law nor is it objective / balanced. I’m sure that if there were more time available then Admin would fight it and win but that doesn’t appear to be an option given certain deadlines that are needed to be met.

 

What he also said was that the Admin have firm proof that the EFL are directly leaking stories to the press – in particular John Percy and specifically via Trevor Birch – for their own agenda.

 

Where this leaves things is anyone’s guess. There’s definitely a feel within the club that the players, staff and admin are all pulling for the same thing (as are the fans) but the EFL are hell bent on crushing them. Had we earned no points and been adrift then I’m sure none of this would have happened as relegation would have been the punishment, they felt appropriate. The key to unlocking the situation seems to be resolving the the claims by M and W. The fact that they are allowed to get away with this and have the backing of the EFL stinks to poo imo and may well be illegal, even if there is some moral merit surely this sets a crazy precedent for every other similar situation in future?

 

Why does none of this shock me?

2 minutes ago, Derbados said:

Just something I’ve been sent today, could he absolute bs so take with a pinch of salt but same person who said the the staff meeting was happening today. Don’t shoot me down I’m not ITK.

“Ashley has bid as per media and it’s by far the biggest bid so far. The admins were aiming to be in a position to have announced Applebys crew by now but because Ashley’s bid trumps theirs and they can’t match it, they are taking Ashley’s bid forward as obviously it strikes a better deal for the creditors

Unfortunately Ashley’s bid has come at a bad time, right in the middle of January so the admins now need to go through the legal process and due diligence and pass the EFL owners and directors test which all take time. This was presented to the EFL yesterday who explained that waiting for Ashley to be announced pb and then finance the club simply isn’t going to cut it.”

no preferred bidder = no signing of players until evidence of funding has been produced. 
 

 

I've no reason to doubt you as you've been such an active member on here before, so I'm glad there is a little bit of news coming out of the club that isn't complete doom and gloom.

If Ashley has bid now and we need all the paperwork doing before he gets PB status, then it's within his interests to get all that done quickly before the assets and value of his acquisition are stripped before he completes the purchase. I hope that everyone is working flat out to get things moving along before the life support is switched off.

When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea.

I think the reason he couldn't re-sign (even though Baldock and Marshall are both gone too) is because we started playing more youth players recently (Thompson and Plange) and these have filled up the quota again. I'm sure when Rooney started selecting these squads he was under the impression that this tougher embargo would be over by now and we'd be able to keep Jags on a bit longer.

I'm gutted he's gone. He's been absolute rock for us. Hopefully Stearman can keep up his levels he's shown when he's had a chance. Cashin will get his chances this season too now I suppose.

Why would they put the 2 players who were on a 6 month contract in the calendar at all? ? 

Think all you food smugglers should just buy some food and drink at the ground. Y'know, allow the club to make some money to continue running...

Have I missed an official club statement or a tweet from the supporters groups who were due to have a meeting with Quantuma at 11am today?

Until then I won't get myself in a froth around all these reports from Nixon and Percy. I don't think either of them have been in a call with the admins, so they are getting fed 2nd, 3rd or 4th hand news.

2 minutes ago, Millenniumram said:

Think there’s more chance of @one_chop posting something positive than there is of a preferred bidder being named today

This is perhaps the most depressing comment on this whole thread.

1 minute ago, MACKWORTHRAM said:

This board meeting that the EFL had yesterday.

Isn't Steve Gibson on the EFL board?

No. There's a Boro representitive on the board, but not the curly one.

I think it's been discussed before that this person wouldn't be allowed to work on, or have any decision making powers, on a case directly involving their club.

@gaspode have you got an image of Zappa with a Sports Direct mug if the news comes through tomorrow?

20 minutes ago, Olton Ram said:

 

He's not particularly smart. Only plays well in a 3-3-1-0 or 4-0-2 formation.