Archie

Exactly this. There's a lot on here saying, 'I'd take 6 points' or 'I'd take 3 points' etc. Tragic that a large percentage of the fanbase would simply allow this to happen without knowing the facts of the case because they don't want to think about it anymore. Boo Hoo. This is and should be a non negotiable punishment based on facts and not something open to subjective negotiation on any part. Until we know exactly what has been breached (if anything) we shouldn't accept any 'punishment' from this shitshower of an organisation and fight on/back relentlessly. 

Exactly this. There's a lot on here saying, 'I'd take 6 points' or 'I'd take 3 points' etc. Tragic that a large percentage of the fanbase would simply allow this to happen without knowing the facts of the case because they don't want to think about it anymore. Boo Hoo. This is and should be a non negotiable punishment based on facts and not something open to subjective negotiation on any part. Until we know exactly what has been breached (if anything) we shouldn't accept any 'punishment' from this shitshower of an organisation and fight on/back relentlessly. 

Exactly this. There's a lot on here saying, 'I'd take 6 points' or 'I'd take 3 points' etc. Tragic that a large percentage of the fanbase would simply allow this to happen without knowing the facts of the case because they don't want to think about it anymore. Boo Hoo. This is and should be a non negotiable punishment based on facts and not something open to subjective negotiation on any part. Until we know exactly what has been breached (if anything) we shouldn't accept any 'punishment' from this shitshower of an organisation and fight on/back relentlessly. 

Exactly this. There's a lot on here saying, 'I'd take 6 points' or 'I'd take 3 points' etc. Tragic that a large percentage of the fanbase would simply allow this to happen without knowing the facts of the case because they don't want to think about it anymore. Boo Hoo. This is and should be a non negotiable punishment based on facts and not something open to subjective negotiation on any part. Until we know exactly what has been breached (if anything) we shouldn't accept any 'punishment' from this shitshower of an organisation and fight on/back relentlessly. 

Exactly this. There's a lot on here saying, 'I'd take 6 points' or 'I'd take 3 points' etc. Tragic that a large percentage of the fanbase would simply allow this to happen without knowing the facts of the case because they don't want to think about it anymore. Boo Hoo. This is and should be a non negotiable punishment based on facts and not something open to subjective negotiation on any part. Until we know exactly what has been breached (if anything) we shouldn't accept any 'punishment' from this shitshower of an organisation and fight on/back relentlessly. 

Exactly this. There's a lot on here saying, 'I'd take 6 points' or 'I'd take 3 points' etc. Tragic that a large percentage of the fanbase would simply allow this to happen without knowing the facts of the case because they don't want to think about it anymore. Boo Hoo. This is and should be a non negotiable punishment based on facts and not something open to subjective negotiation on any part. Until we know exactly what has been breached (if anything) we shouldn't accept any 'punishment' from this shitshower of an organisation and fight on/back relentlessly. 

Exactly this. There's a lot on here saying, 'I'd take 6 points' or 'I'd take 3 points' etc. Tragic that a large percentage of the fanbase would simply allow this to happen without knowing the facts of the case because they don't want to think about it anymore. Boo Hoo. This is and should be a non negotiable punishment based on facts and not something open to subjective negotiation on any part. Until we know exactly what has been breached (if anything) we shouldn't accept any 'punishment' from this shitshower of an organisation and fight on/back relentlessly. 

I understood from various posts that the punishment for failing P&S is partly defined and partly at the whim of the EFL for aggravating circumstances.
It can only be the latter part that is negotiable. So perhaps we have a minor, say 3 point failure of the calculated number and they want to add a further 6, which would be jaw-droppingly unreasonable given the complete cods up they made of their case. 
The sheer malice and capriciousness is mad. 

It’s just nice to know that we aren’t paying some uninterested Butterfield or Anya £20,000+ a week but a bunch of lads trying to make a career in football and some grateful to still get a game and play with passion - I have enjoyed this season more than all of last season all ready 

Jags has a massive pocket and their CF was in it ALL day 

This season more than any we need to get behind every one player for every minute played on the pitch, let's together with the players and staff bring back that Derby pride win, lose or draw. 

These last few weeks especially Wayne has gone up in my estimation hugely.
I’ve been so impressed with his attitude and his calmness when being faced with an incredibly difficult situation.
He has personally significantly helped our situation by providing an air of,and promise of,stability at a time when the club is being buffeted from all angles. Having managerial issues at present would be just awful for everyone and wayne has removed that risk
To me he is coming across incredibly well in his media work and has effectively taken on the whole of the club’s communications onto his own shoulders.
Well done to Wayne and it seems like most people are feeling that way given the reception he is getting at matches.
I really, really wish, though, that those fans who sing that appallingly infantile and frankly insulting song about him would stop. Can you imagine how his wife and children feel when they hear it ? It is grossly offensive.

From my perspective, Paul Merson doesn't know what he's talking about, ever. 

Born in London in 1938. Bombed out during WW2 and moved to Derby. Lived in Derby until 1959 and then moved back to London. Educated at Bemrose School and lived eventually in Littleover. First saw DCFC in a wartime game at the Baseball Ground and caught the bug. Have supported the Rams ever since. Held a season ticket for many years travelling up for games together with my son and grandson as time went by. I gave up the ticket and the travelling because of age ,a couple of years ago ( son and grandson still go, I’m pleased to say). However I keep in touch through RamsTV etc. I’ve experienced much pleasure and sorrow with the Rams over the years but it pains me to say that I have never experienced such frustration , anger and sorrow as I have during the last few years. Things can ,I hope , only get better. 

What can we, the fans, do to help at this difficult time?

Derby County Football Club belongs to you, but also to the people of the city and the community of fans around the world. And many are very worried for the club's future. What are your plans for the club if the worst happens and you cannot find someone to buy it off you?

Have you considered selling a small shareholding of the club to fans to bring in immediate capital while continuing to make the club attractive to majority ownership buyers. 

Upon completing the sale of the club, will it once again have a stadium that it owns?

I have cancelled mine which is a great pity. I have had it for many years, even kept it rolling in the summer months to help the club but can't justify it at the new price. The missed games due to Sky (about half last season) and the cost to fans in markets where 25 quid is quite a bit of money means this is no longer a fair value proposition. Who misses out? The club. I will still get links and watch the games, there are always ways. This is definitely a sly trick by the EFL to move people over to their business and Derby must be livid with this, seeing another valuable income stream flitter away. I don't  know anybody who hasn't  or won't  be cancelling. RIP Rams TV. You've been had by the vindictive bullies at the EFL. 

For an organisation to approve and sign off on accounts for 3 seasons, to then turn round and say hold up, you know how we approved those accounts? Yeah, we don’t anymore and decided we want to retrospectively punish you by relegating you. 
Whatever your thoughts on Mel, the signings, appointments the colour of his shoes, this is just insanity, it honestly is and it’s vindictive insanity even taking club bias out.
This case should worry every single owner, manager and fan of clubs under the shambolic EFL pyramid.
Including that Championship club where the owner owns another club over in Greece, transferring players between each other to circumvent FFP restrictions without even trying to hide it and the EFL are blind to it.
Our real crime here let’s be honest is being better than Middlesbrough one season, that’s the big issue here. 
We’ve upset this little bloke up North sat in his half empty stadium so much he’s had his lawyers out to shake the EFL suits up.
Then you have that Karen Maguire over on Twitter sticking his great big spoon into the mix as it gives him a hard on and appearances on rogue radio stations and podcasts.
Absolute joke.
Nobody from the EFL will read this, but if somehow you do, fine yourself, fine yourself for being an inept organisation and if you’re serious about looking out for the best interests of the member clubs, sell up, hand the leagues over as you have shown time after time you are incapable of running them, you’re an embarrassment.
#FuckTheEFL

No confirmation but it looks like o'Hares shirt fron 2nd division winning side. His was the only one that had gone that grey colour on the way collar