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Scott Malone, Lee Buchanan, Max Lowe, Callum Elder, even Ashley Cole...and still its Fozzy...wow what a man!

Scott Malone, Lee Buchanan, Max Lowe, Callum Elder, even Ashley Cole...and still its Fozzy...wow what a man!

He wouldn't have been in January, we still had 3 aging central defenders on the books at that time!

Ok, to split hairs..Rooney is a defender..right backs are defenders!
Forsyth played most of last season as a CB..and did very well.
Elder has always been a left back, not a LWB.
Waghorn has played most of the last few years either wide or as a second striker...
My round pegs fit pretty well ta..just Sibley who isn't quite fit yet..

Agree but Warne loves Smith..he tried to sign him for Rotherham!
Thompson all day long for me..

Ok, to split hairs..Rooney is a defender..right backs are defenders!
Forsyth played most of last season as a CB..and did very well.
Elder has always been a left back, not a LWB.
Waghorn has played most of the last few years either wide or as a second striker...
My round pegs fit pretty well ta..just Sibley who isn't quite fit yet..

Noticed Bardell wasn't with under 21's last night

Who's useless, Warne or the recruitment team?? 🤣

Agree but Warne loves Smith..he tried to sign him for Rotherham!
Thompson all day long for me..

I sort of understand if contracts are short, you aren't stuck with players if you achieve promotion..but if you don't..then every pre season you have to do a re-build!.. so older, experienced pro's can work...but the caveat surely must be that you need 'legs' in the team to balance that out..and we don't seem to address that!....which is weird as Warne is a fitness coach

Who's useless, Warne or the recruitment team?? 🤣

Its common knowledge the monies from Bielik and Knight sales went to Lech Posnan..as the administrators hadn't paid them fully..and FIFA ruled in their favour!

Try: Round pegs in round holes!
                      Wildsmith
Rooney   Forsyth    Cashin      Elder
          Thompson Hourihane
NML              Sibley            Waghorn
                      Collins
 

Maybe he will do us all a favour and quit now..which may give a new manager a couple of weeks to sort the mess!

Why dont we sign Chris Martin then???? He has no club...he will score goals..he is a better player than we have...and Warne can't argue that he doesn't fit his profile...because not many of his signings or players he has been interested in, do!

Not coached by a fitness coach though eh!

Why dont we sign Chris Martin then???? He has no club...he will score goals..he is a better player than we have...and Warne can't argue that he doesn't fit his profile...because not many of his signings or players he has been interested in, do!

Maybe he will do us all a favour and quit now..which may give a new manager a couple of weeks to sort the mess!

Cashin is a really good player..but he hasn't improved since  Warne's been here...

I know there are ample threads popping up all relating to a similar topic of discussion, but wanted to air this one out (for my own peace of mind) and gauge what the majority thought. 
I had day of mostly driving between meetings today and found myself replaying last night’s disaster in my head. I was driving for over an hour just exhausting my own thoughts and feelings on the game last night, without noticing that I hadn’t even turned the radio on. I honestly couldn’t think of another time a result/performance had such a detrimental impact on my view of the team, club and the way things were being run. Situations around the club, obviously have, but never one performance which made me think what does David Clowes actually make of it all?
By all accounts, he had a vision for Derby County which essentially accumulated to building a successful side on the back of being commercially savvy, recruiting well and while not banging ‘the Derby way’ drum, was definitely hopeful of an aesthetically pleasing football team to watch. We all understood he didn’t have Candy Crush money to burn, as did he, but I think we all hoped that the club would follow in the footsteps of other clubs who have built and not bought by making smart decisions and ultimately working harder than rival sides who share our aspirations. 
Last summer was a little bit of a rush job, but all things considered Rosenior (and probably Rooney initially) had done really well to work around our restrictions and build competitive side for the level we were at. The season got off to a steady yet slow start and with Rosenior only hired in an interim basis, I felt (and I imagine the majority) it was only a matter of time before he was hired on an official basis. Clowes, obviously, had other plans and to his credit wanted to do a thorough process and see what was available to him with the vision he had at the club. Warne was his choice and he pointed to his previous promotions at this level as the reason, few could argue against his points and reasoning, but obviously there were some reservations regarding his playing style, his previous relegations and how he would handle the move away from Rotherham above all else. 
Needless to say we saw a fairly quick change in our approach and we were moving the ball a lot faster down the pitch and having less possession. We then went on a little bit of a purple patch (20 unbeaten) but I felt just before we actually finally lost that we had seen performances slip and when we finally lost it was hard for us to get back on track. We had completely transitioned by that point into a more Warne set-up with 3 at the back a lot of the time over the final quarter of the season. Obviously, how we have started this season needs no further explanation otherwise this thread wouldn’t be a thing. 
On to the recruitment, namely Mark Thomas, who came in from Oxford following praise for his good work there. We were obviously looking for someone with a little bit of knowledge of our level and below, in my opinion, who had shown a competence in recruiting cheap(er) players who had potential to grow with the team. The summer recruitment, at least at this snapshot in time, looks a bit of a disaster. If you asked me who our best signing was from this summer based on minutes played, it would undoubtedly be Waghorn - a player invited to train with the club on nothing more than the proximity of his home. Not a player we scoped out, not a player we headhunted - a player who could probably peddle a bike into training should he so wish. 
We have had Paul Warne explain what he’s teams are all about: the high relentless press, the high energy, speed… the recruitment doesn’t mirror that in the slightest. We’ve signed players who fans would’ve heard of, out-of-contract from Championship clubs (for the most part) and above all else - experienced. The budget has been bemoaned but we have recruited in a far different fashion to every other League One club because no other League One club can afford to go and sign players who are accustom to Championship wages. You have to then think to the likes of Sonny Bradley who has had an horrendous start and been dragged off at half-time twice in four games. Both Warne and Thomas would’ve been banging Clowes’ table for him and saying how this is the guy who can lead this defence back into the Championship. Obviously the due diligence hadn’t been done because now it’s coming to light that he’s not looked remotely similar to the player he was since his injury - which is probably the player we’re watching now.
It brings me back to my point: What on earth must Clowes be thinking? He’s given Warne and his staff the keys to the castle based on what he told him and now four games in the whole thing looks like a dog’s dinner - substantially worse than where we were 12 months ago under Rosenior. A decision, I’m absolutely sure, he would reverse if given the opportunity to replay it again. He now has to consider the direction of the club and importantly how to direct it again in a progressive direction. I don’t believe Clowes is someone who is going to drop a guy with 3 years left on his contract without substantial reason so I question what comes next - does he refresh the recruitment of the club? Does he try and have some influence over the football operation of the club - perhaps even hire a director of football to steer the direction for him as he has seen how even the best laid plans can capitulate when decisions aren’t aligned, i.e. playing recruitment and playing style. 
I feel for the bloke because ultimately the weight is heavy on his shoulders and the club is a pressure cooker at the moment. 

At least if we had Steve McClaren back, we know we would see a much better brand of football.
If that ship has sailed, Lee Carsley might be a really good shout.
Not Darren Moore for me..or anybody else that effing plays 3 at the back!!!

How things change..it wasn't too long ago that we smashed Brighton in the play offs...then Zamora'd at Wembley...if only Buxton put it in row Z, or Keogh didn't mis kick it!!

Maybe he will do us all a favour and quit now..which may give a new manager a couple of weeks to sort the mess!