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Ghost of Clough got a reaction from Bald Eagle's Barmy Army in Derby County vs Exeter City (H) Match Thread
Oops. I was meant to say Waghorn has started every game Bird HASNT played, whilst Collins started when Bird played.
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Ghost of Clough reacted to angieram in Pro Warne
This is a very small sample size. 5 of us who go home and away regularly. Never boo, get behind the team, quite good vocal support. Well past our first flush of youth! 😉
We were 4 - 1 in favour of his appointment (me being the 1 against) and stayed that way right through last season.
Pre-season we thought we'd be flying, but the rest of us have become very disillusioned already and I'd say we are less "Warne out" than "it would be a relief if it did happen".
What Warne talks about isn't what we are seeing. His negative mindset, lack of in-game management and ability to react to the opposition frustrates us. I'd say if we were forced into a vote we'd all vote out.
I think @BondJovi's last paragraph for me sums up exactly how we are feeling. There's no growth.
If it is true that Clowes cannot afford to sack him, then I think he needs to sit down and have a serious talk with him about changing his approach to the game. An owner straying into onfield management is dangerous territory as we know to our cost, but what is the alternative at this stage?
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Ghost of Clough reacted to lrm14 in Anyone else had enough?
Ah yes, the statistical metric xG is subjective yet your 'eyes' and opinion on football are not. That makes perfect sense.
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Ghost of Clough got a reaction from Jubbs in Warne Out Out
Buckingham was Assistant Manager of Stoke U21s. He was also a youth player at Reading and Oxford.
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Ghost of Clough reacted to Tamworthram in Pro Warne
That’s what happens when you mingle with the home supporters. 😀
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Ghost of Clough got a reaction from Caerphilly Ram in Derby County vs Exeter City (H) Match Thread
Wildsmith
Nyambe Nelson Cashin
Wilson Bird Smith Sibley Forsyth
Waghorn Collins
Subs: Bradley, Ward, Fornah, Hourihane, Barkhjuizen, Mendez-Laing, Washington
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Ghost of Clough reacted to Jubbs in Warne Out Out
This is where a DoF would have this knowledge and look into that recruitment of a manager.
Here are my picks for someone that perhaps isn't the "easy" appointment.
Aaron Danks - as @Ghost of Clough mentioned,
Steve Round - don't think this needs explaining.
Des Buckingham - doing really well for Mumbai City (within the City Group) who was a former Oxford coach with Wilder, attractive style.
Stephen Bradley - Shamrock Rovers manager, linked with League 1 clubs consistently.
Justin Cochrane - Head of academy coaching for Brentford, highly rated having had former roles with England and Man Utd.
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Ghost of Clough got a reaction from The Scarlet Pimpernel in Warne Out Out
Only 1 manager has been sacked since Mac was sacked 6.5 years ago. I don't think you'll find many who disagreed with Cocu being shown the door.
The problem isn't having a different manager every season. It's hiring managers with no clear idea of how they will work woth the existing squad. It was this which lead to a bloated wage bill, as several signings were needed each year to allow us to change style, without being able to sell unwanted players.
Whilst the wage bill is now being responsibly managed, we cannot make all of the changes required to the playing squad to allow Warne to get the squad he needs to make his system work. The appointment of Warne was a very poor one because he isn't as adaptable as he thinks/claims.
A decision should have been made on what style of play is to be expected from the first team. We have heard it from the academy that they're being couched to play a certain way. You should be able to take any freeze frame of the game and tell "that's Derby" depending on of we're defending, attacking, in transition, etc... We should recruit based off that desired style of play. By doing so, you reduce the risk of an appointment going wrong.
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Ghost of Clough got a reaction from Carnero in Will Clowes patience soon run out?
Rationally thinking, Clowes will onoy make that final decision once he is absolutely certain there is no chance of promotion under Warne. After all, it is his money on the line, so he won't want to potentislly throw millions away unless necessary.
I would also find it hard to believe that Clowes would be happy with us sitting midtable all season, then only make a change in the summer. There has to be a tipping point.
Taking the emotion out of the decision, I would suggest that tipping point would be needing to average 2 points per game just to squeeze back into the top 6 on the final day. It would take a prolonged period of relegation form to reach the crisis point (such as 12 points from our next 12 games).
Realistically, watching us perform as bad as that for such a long time is unlikely without fan discontent growing to unknown levels. The managerial position should be reviewed periodically at set points. For example, we have 4 games until the next international break, and we need to be closer to the top 6 than we currently are. Then there's the half way point at New Year, the next international window (March), leading up to our final 8 or so game run in, with another review after the season has ended. Each time we either need to be in the top 6, or closer to them than at the previous checkpoint.
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Ghost of Clough got a reaction from Premier ram in Will Clowes patience soon run out?
Rationally thinking, Clowes will onoy make that final decision once he is absolutely certain there is no chance of promotion under Warne. After all, it is his money on the line, so he won't want to potentislly throw millions away unless necessary.
I would also find it hard to believe that Clowes would be happy with us sitting midtable all season, then only make a change in the summer. There has to be a tipping point.
Taking the emotion out of the decision, I would suggest that tipping point would be needing to average 2 points per game just to squeeze back into the top 6 on the final day. It would take a prolonged period of relegation form to reach the crisis point (such as 12 points from our next 12 games).
Realistically, watching us perform as bad as that for such a long time is unlikely without fan discontent growing to unknown levels. The managerial position should be reviewed periodically at set points. For example, we have 4 games until the next international break, and we need to be closer to the top 6 than we currently are. Then there's the half way point at New Year, the next international window (March), leading up to our final 8 or so game run in, with another review after the season has ended. Each time we either need to be in the top 6, or closer to them than at the previous checkpoint.
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Ghost of Clough got a reaction from Caerphilly Ram in Will Clowes patience soon run out?
Rationally thinking, Clowes will onoy make that final decision once he is absolutely certain there is no chance of promotion under Warne. After all, it is his money on the line, so he won't want to potentislly throw millions away unless necessary.
I would also find it hard to believe that Clowes would be happy with us sitting midtable all season, then only make a change in the summer. There has to be a tipping point.
Taking the emotion out of the decision, I would suggest that tipping point would be needing to average 2 points per game just to squeeze back into the top 6 on the final day. It would take a prolonged period of relegation form to reach the crisis point (such as 12 points from our next 12 games).
Realistically, watching us perform as bad as that for such a long time is unlikely without fan discontent growing to unknown levels. The managerial position should be reviewed periodically at set points. For example, we have 4 games until the next international break, and we need to be closer to the top 6 than we currently are. Then there's the half way point at New Year, the next international window (March), leading up to our final 8 or so game run in, with another review after the season has ended. Each time we either need to be in the top 6, or closer to them than at the previous checkpoint.
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Ghost of Clough reacted to Bald Eagle's Barmy Army in Derby v Shrewsbury (A) Match Thread
Exactly this.
One of the most trusted posters on the forum, very knowledgeable and clearly knows a lot about the club and football in general.
I’ve thought for a long time PW hasn’t got a clue. When @Ghost of Clough starts talking the same, I start to get really worried.
It’s time for some to get their head out of the sand.
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Ghost of Clough got a reaction from Jimbo Ram in Will Clowes patience soon run out?
Rationally thinking, Clowes will onoy make that final decision once he is absolutely certain there is no chance of promotion under Warne. After all, it is his money on the line, so he won't want to potentislly throw millions away unless necessary.
I would also find it hard to believe that Clowes would be happy with us sitting midtable all season, then only make a change in the summer. There has to be a tipping point.
Taking the emotion out of the decision, I would suggest that tipping point would be needing to average 2 points per game just to squeeze back into the top 6 on the final day. It would take a prolonged period of relegation form to reach the crisis point (such as 12 points from our next 12 games).
Realistically, watching us perform as bad as that for such a long time is unlikely without fan discontent growing to unknown levels. The managerial position should be reviewed periodically at set points. For example, we have 4 games until the next international break, and we need to be closer to the top 6 than we currently are. Then there's the half way point at New Year, the next international window (March), leading up to our final 8 or so game run in, with another review after the season has ended. Each time we either need to be in the top 6, or closer to them than at the previous checkpoint.
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Ghost of Clough got a reaction from HorsforthRam in Warne Out Out
Only 1 manager has been sacked since Mac was sacked 6.5 years ago. I don't think you'll find many who disagreed with Cocu being shown the door.
The problem isn't having a different manager every season. It's hiring managers with no clear idea of how they will work woth the existing squad. It was this which lead to a bloated wage bill, as several signings were needed each year to allow us to change style, without being able to sell unwanted players.
Whilst the wage bill is now being responsibly managed, we cannot make all of the changes required to the playing squad to allow Warne to get the squad he needs to make his system work. The appointment of Warne was a very poor one because he isn't as adaptable as he thinks/claims.
A decision should have been made on what style of play is to be expected from the first team. We have heard it from the academy that they're being couched to play a certain way. You should be able to take any freeze frame of the game and tell "that's Derby" depending on of we're defending, attacking, in transition, etc... We should recruit based off that desired style of play. By doing so, you reduce the risk of an appointment going wrong.
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Ghost of Clough got a reaction from Bald Eagle's Barmy Army in Warne Out Out
Only 1 manager has been sacked since Mac was sacked 6.5 years ago. I don't think you'll find many who disagreed with Cocu being shown the door.
The problem isn't having a different manager every season. It's hiring managers with no clear idea of how they will work woth the existing squad. It was this which lead to a bloated wage bill, as several signings were needed each year to allow us to change style, without being able to sell unwanted players.
Whilst the wage bill is now being responsibly managed, we cannot make all of the changes required to the playing squad to allow Warne to get the squad he needs to make his system work. The appointment of Warne was a very poor one because he isn't as adaptable as he thinks/claims.
A decision should have been made on what style of play is to be expected from the first team. We have heard it from the academy that they're being couched to play a certain way. You should be able to take any freeze frame of the game and tell "that's Derby" depending on of we're defending, attacking, in transition, etc... We should recruit based off that desired style of play. By doing so, you reduce the risk of an appointment going wrong.
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Ghost of Clough got a reaction from David Graham Brown in Derby v Shrewsbury (A) Match Thread
You've converted me. I'm 100% Warne in now
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Ghost of Clough got a reaction from Sparkle in Derby v Shrewsbury (A) Match Thread
What absolute bull...
People will accept a defeat if the level of performance in good enough. It isn't, and hasn't been often enough this season. Hence, why people are fed up with what we're being given.
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Ghost of Clough reacted to May Contain Nuts in Derby v Shrewsbury (A) Match Thread
Must admit I never thought I'd see @Ghost of Clough being called a hater, toxic or one of the usual suspects, or someone who doesn't get the art of discussion
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Ghost of Clough got a reaction from Andicis in Derby v Shrewsbury (A) Match Thread
What absolute bull...
People will accept a defeat if the level of performance in good enough. It isn't, and hasn't been often enough this season. Hence, why people are fed up with what we're being given.
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Ghost of Clough got a reaction from Adslegend in Derby v Shrewsbury (A) Match Thread
What absolute bull...
People will accept a defeat if the level of performance in good enough. It isn't, and hasn't been often enough this season. Hence, why people are fed up with what we're being given.
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Ghost of Clough got a reaction from TomTom92 in Derby v Shrewsbury (A) Match Thread
You've converted me. I'm 100% Warne in now
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Ghost of Clough got a reaction from norwichram in Derby v Shrewsbury (A) Match Thread
What absolute bull...
People will accept a defeat if the level of performance in good enough. It isn't, and hasn't been often enough this season. Hence, why people are fed up with what we're being given.