EastKentRam Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I actually think we'll do alright with the strikers we have if Savies stays. Who could we sign for the money available that is better than Theo Savies or Ward? Steve Clarridge. Or we could sell Theo for £50k, i'll go down to my local athletics club and find someone who can do exactly the same job as Theo for, at a guess, £500 a week. Everyones a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Steve Clarridge. Or we could sell Theo for £50k, i'll go down to my local athletics club and find someone who can do exactly the same job as Theo for, at a guess, £500 a week. Everyones a winner. You mean you know someone else who can hit the corner flag with the ball from the penalty spot, I dont believe you. [size=1](Im joking)[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derby_Dave Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I too wonder - the reasons we were told Shackell was sold was that it would allow us to re-invest in two or more players, yet Keogh's been signed for over a million quid. This tells us that either: a) Shacks was sold for a lot more than £1.1m b ) the owners have been forced to dip into their pockets when they were not going to because of the backlash against Shackell's departure. Interesting comment by Nigel about Keogh's signing that we "pushed the boat out a little" to get him here, therefore deals for White (and others?) are less likely now. Where that leaves us is a good centre half has gone, a good centre half has come, and we're still short up front. I thought it was 850,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VulcanRam Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I thought it was 850,000. Derby Tel says today fee is undisclosed but deal is worth more than £1 million. Points out that fee is largest paid by NC since his arrival and tops Barks and Shacks. I don't know whether they're including anything to do with Ball in that, but surely cov would be paying us a loan fee to take him on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Shackell sold and bulk of money up front (reason why a £1.2m bid rejected turned into a £1.1m accepted) Spend some on Coutts and Jacobs (together with Maguire and Addison fees), rest on an upfront payment on Keogh (the rest needing paying at a later date) Savings of Maguire, Addison, Shackell and Greens wages from last year's wage budget Shackell sold and the money used and improvement in the squad as a whole - but still have a bit to pay to Coventry in the future Just because the total fees dont add up to shackells providing enough to pay for the other players in full doesnt mean it didnt allow deals to be struck to bring them in. hence the statement from Clough "its a bit more complicated than that" when asked if Shackell's fee had paid for the three incoming players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derby_Dave Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Derby Tel says today fee is undisclosed but deal is worth more than £1 million. Points out that fee is largest paid by NC since his arrival and tops Barks and Shacks. I don't know whether they're including anything to do with Ball in that, but surely cov would be paying us a loan fee to take him on? Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Stand_Ram Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Im very happy with the signing of Keogh. No doubt he can be just as good if not better than Shackell. But the fees worry me. Shackell had 2 years left on his deal and costed a reported 1.1m Keogh had 1 year left on his deal.and costed a fee believed to be in the excess of 1m Mayybe Clough needed a quick sale to secure his target before others such as Cardiff signed him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Im very happy with the signing of Keogh. No doubt he can be just as good if not better than Shackell. But the fees worry me. Shackell had 2 years left on his deal and costed a reported 1.1m Keogh had 1 year left on his deal.and costed a fee believed to be in the excess of 1m Mayybe Clough needed a quick sale to secure his target before others such as Cardiff signed him? ...either that or Keogh is a better younger player. Age makes a huge difference in transfer fees and a 25 year old with just sky of 100 championship appearances is going to be valued a lot higher than a 29 year old who's moved about a bit. Interestingly, we received the highest fee ever paid for Shackell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Im very happy with the signing of Keogh. No doubt he can be just as good if not better than Shackell. But the fees worry me. Shackell had 2 years left on his deal and costed a reported 1.1m Keogh had 1 year left on his deal.and costed a fee believed to be in the excess of 1m Mayybe Clough needed a quick sale to secure his target before others such as Cardiff signed him? Or, most of the Shackell fee was paid to us upfront, meaning we are able to pay part of the Keogh fee now. Transfer fees aren't as simple as a lump of cash going straight into a bank account. Transfer fees in which most of it is paid up front are very sought after for a club selling a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I think Nigel thought Shackel was in love with himself too much. I noticed how Shackel strutted around on the awards night, and he never wore the club suit like the rest of the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I think Nigel thought Shackel was in love with himself too much. I noticed how Shackel strutted around on the awards night, and he never wore the club suit like the rest of the players. I remember reading on a leicester forum when they were linked with him, that someone who was at Norwich with him said 'he was a massively cocky ****' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I think Nigel thought Shackel was in love with himself too much. I noticed how Shackel strutted around on the awards night, and he never wore the club suit like the rest of the players. You shud have sausageted him there and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Steve Clarridge. Or we could sell Theo for £50k, i'll go down to my local athletics club and find someone who can do exactly the same job as Theo for, at a guess, £500 a week. Everyones a winner. Theo is a proven championship scorer. He'll never be a top player but he will score goals at this level. I understand fans not liking him because Clough got him for next to nothing - therefore he must be w@nk. The fact is that Theo scored 10 league goals in 27 starts. Not the best goals per game ratio but a reasonable return for a young lad who couldn't get a game at Millwall. If someone at your local athletics club could score more than 1 in 3 at this level then send Nige his details quickly. Might save us a few quid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastKentRam Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Theo is a proven championship scorer. He'll never be a top player but he will score goals at this level. I understand fans not liking him because Clough got him for next to nothing - therefore he must be w@nk. The fact is that Theo scored 10 league goals in 27 starts. Not the best goals per game ratio but a reasonable return for a young lad who couldn't get a game at Millwall. If someone at your local athletics club could score more than 1 in 3 at this level then send Nige his details quickly. Might save us a few quid! 10 goals in 27 games is hardly a proven Championship goalscorer, you're not proven at any level until you consistently score for a number of seasons. I dont dislike him cos he was cheap, i dislike him cos he cant trap a bag of cement and epitomises a lot that is wrong with English football and at times, what is wrong with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChorleyRam Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 That's very harsh. No Theo ain't ever gonna be Lionel Messi but he gives an awful lot to the rest of the team which other so called better players don't i.e Tyson. I've seen some absolute **** over the years up front for Derby and Theo Robinson ain't one of the worst! Chris Porter on the other hand... I would imagine that you haven't actually played the game at a high level if you don't understand what Theo brings to us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisse Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Theo will continue to get better as a player. Don't guarantee goals but he can become an asset for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripleyram88 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 10 goals in 27 games is hardly a proven Championship goalscorer, you're not proven at any level until you consistently score for a number of seasons. Good job we never signed Gary Hooper then seeing as he only did it for one season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastKentRam Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 That's very harsh. No Theo ain't ever gonna be Lionel Messi but he gives an awful lot to the rest of the team which other so called better players don't i.e Tyson. I've seen some absolute **** over the years up front for Derby and Theo Robinson ain't one of the worst! Chris Porter on the other hand... I would imagine that you haven't actually played the game at a high level if you don't understand what Theo brings to us... What level you played to? Retired Championship striker? I know exactly what he brings, he works hard, is lightening quick and never stops trying. Not saying he doesnt have his uses, cos he does. His actual footballing ability is very little and he's got where he has today on his physical attributes, like Theo Walcott has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastKentRam Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I've cracked it! You're Ben Chorley, the current Leyton Orient centre half. So you've played to League 1 standard, fair play, did Theo run rings around you in the past or sumin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Theo also has a decent footballing brain. Half the time you can see what he's trying to do, just his massive legs won't play ball (if you'll pardon the pun). If he can link his brain to his body a bit better, he'd improve a lot. Mind you, you can say that about any footballer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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