JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 1 minute ago, Comrade 86 said: I think it'd have to be an equity jobby, but I don't think we need worry about breaching FFP anytime soon, as the volumes are very modest to date. I suspect we will again show a loss this year, but L1 losses are not counted (no FFP constraints in L1) and coming from where we have, Clowes and Pearce will be more mindful than most. If, as suggested, it may be Horan, the sums will not be particularly significant as while he's wealthy, he's not in the same stratosphere as some of the owners in this league. All complete guesswork, I concede, but it's a nice way to begin the week and if Maz is correct and it's happening soon, might we get that striker we all want, or a German CB? Oh for sure, I'm not concerned about us and FFP it was more just curiosity over what someone dropping a load of random cash might do rules wise. I'm sure Gibson would be all over it if the EFl weren't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malagaram Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 24 minutes ago, Eoghan1884 said: Sounds good to me, it’s worked out pretty well for them Ed Sheeran has taken a 1.4% share of Ipswich Town,not a boerd member or a voting member,to me it looks like the deal was done to get a boardroom box for himself and friends. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoghan1884 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 2 minutes ago, Malagaram said: Ed Sheeran has taken a 1.4% share of Ipswich Town,not a boerd member or a voting member,to me it looks like the deal was done to get a boardroom box for himself and friends. Think your forgetting the money he’s pumping into them through sponsoring them Malagaram and Rammy03 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 3 minutes ago, Malagaram said: Ed Sheeran has taken a 1.4% share of Ipswich Town,not a boerd member or a voting member,to me it looks like the deal was done to get a boardroom box for himself and friends. That is an expensive box Malagaram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 3 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: Oh for sure, I'm not concerned about us and FFP it was more just curiosity over what someone dropping a load of random cash might do rules wise. I'm sure Gibson would be all over it if the EFl weren't! Take equity, I think. Typically, that's the only reason folk invest in football clubs anyway. My ramblings on Horan's role are pure guesswork. JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl of Tupton Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 I stand to be corrected on this but under the EFL’s profit and sustainability rules aren’t clubs only permitted to spend a restricted amount of income on transfer fees? That income being through gate receipts, TV revenues and sales of assets etc, but doesn’t include cash injections by rich sugar daddies or investors. P & S (or FFP as it used to be known - I can’t keep up!!) was introduced to effect a level playing field and to stop those lucky enough to have a rich owner being at an unfair advantage. That being the case it doesn’t matter what a potential investor contributes because it can’t be spent on transfer fees. I guess it can be spent elsewhere - such as developing the academy, community projects, stadium development etc, which would allow more of the generated revenues to be used on strengthening the team. But ultimately we’re not permitted a transfer deficit exceeding £39 mil over a three-year rolling period. And isn’t that why Morris pulled that stunt with the stadium sale because we had exceeded that limit (or whatever the limit was at the time). I suppose my point is that some folk talk about new investment as though it’s the ultimate panacea, but it might not be the catch-all solution some seem to think it is. Also, I don’t buy the argument from some that we’ll just become another Rotherham. We are in the same boat as most other clubs in this league outside of the parachute clubs. If we continue to be well run with shrewd management and a bottom-up approach we can get to where we want to be. It might take us a few years but personally I’d rather that than face the financial abyss again. jimtastic56, Malagaram, CBRammette and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoghan1884 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 30 minutes ago, Big Trav said: Similar route to Wrexham I’ve heard Heard anything else BT i-Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Can be chuck 5 million in for a striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Investing in a football team JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paultheram Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Similar to Wrexham? Kieran Lee and George Clooney to join Niall Horan as a consortium? jimbo jones, TomTom92, Derby4Me and 3 others 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 14 minutes ago, Paultheram said: Similar to Wrexham? Kieran Lee and George Clooney to join Niall Horan as a consortium? Don't forget Cara Delavigne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 33 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Investing in a football team Easiest way to make a small fortune in football is to start with a large one Tyler Durden 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 33 minutes ago, Paultheram said: Similar to Wrexham? Kieran Lee and George Clooney to join Niall Horan as a consortium? Don't forget Jack O'Connell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Paultheram said: Similar to Wrexham? Kieran Lee and George Clooney to join Niall Horan as a consortium? Niall Horan and Kieran Lee? One D'erection Group? Edited August 19 by Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster Gaspode, jimtastic56, MackworthRamIsGod and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inter politics Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 5 minutes ago, ossieram said: Don't forget Jack O'Connell. Plus Robert Lindsay, the guitarist from Blur and the family of Tosh from The Bill Kathcairns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 1 hour ago, Earl of Tupton said: I stand to be corrected on this but under the EFL’s profit and sustainability rules aren’t clubs only permitted to spend a restricted amount of income on transfer fees? That income being through gate receipts, TV revenues and sales of assets etc, but doesn’t include cash injections by rich sugar daddies or investors. P & S (or FFP as it used to be known - I can’t keep up!!) was introduced to effect a level playing field and to stop those lucky enough to have a rich owner being at an unfair advantage. That being the case it doesn’t matter what a potential investor contributes because it can’t be spent on transfer fees. I guess it can be spent elsewhere - such as developing the academy, community projects, stadium development etc, which would allow more of the generated revenues to be used on strengthening the team. But ultimately we’re not permitted a transfer deficit exceeding £39 mil over a three-year rolling period. And isn’t that why Morris pulled that stunt with the stadium sale because we had exceeded that limit (or whatever the limit was at the time). I suppose my point is that some folk talk about new investment as though it’s the ultimate panacea, but it might not be the catch-all solution some seem to think it is. Also, I don’t buy the argument from some that we’ll just become another Rotherham. We are in the same boat as most other clubs in this league outside of the parachute clubs. If we continue to be well run with shrewd management and a bottom-up approach we can get to where we want to be. It might take us a few years but personally I’d rather that than face the financial abyss again. This was my understanding of principle of ffp. Coupled to this, how does pubeheads' write off of £107m debt by converting to shares sit with ffp? Is it this sort of practice that lead him to chase derby for compensation? Earl of Tupton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl of Tupton Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 8 minutes ago, Big Bad Bob said: This was my understanding of principle of ffp. Coupled to this, how does pubeheads' write off of £107m debt by converting to shares sit with ffp? Is it this sort of practice that lead him to chase derby for compensation? Good point. I’ve often wondered that. Not to mention moving millions of debt into one of his holding companies and parking it there. And not a titter from the stuffed shirts at the EFL. But then this is pubehead we’re talking about. One rule for one and all that… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott129 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 (edited) If he wants to put some serious money in, I'll happily wear a Derby shirt with a One Direction logo on it 🤷♂️ Edited August 19 by Scott129 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathcairns Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 44 minutes ago, ossieram said: Don't forget Jack O'Connell. Took the words out of my post😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Fella in town who sells flowers is involved in the consortium, is what I have heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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