Foreveram Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 15 minutes ago, BathRam72 said: Don't get me started on pronunciation. It seems the English language has lost all T's. For example water is wor-er, and Better is be-er Let me run that by you again. Don' ge me star-ed on pronunciation. etc etc etc sorry ec ec ec Camon Lu-on is particularly galling 🙂 BathRam72 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadAmster Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 As I'm fluent in Dutch, having lived here since 1984, I'll help with the correct pronunciation of Kenzo's surname. The G in Dutch is a gutteral sound. You are probably all capable of spitting, commencing with that throaty "gargle". That's the G sound in Dutch, short and sharp so, it's the gutteral G followed by oud which rhymes with "loud" and mijn rhymes with "mine". Two syllables, Goud and mine. Simple. Hopefully @Owen87ITK will read this and correct his pronunciation of Goudmijn. hintonsboots 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 16 minutes ago, MadAmster said: As I'm fluent in Dutch, having lived here since 1984, I'll help with the correct pronunciation of Kenzo's surname. The G in Dutch is a gutteral sound. You are probably all capable of spitting, commencing with that throaty "gargle". That's the G sound in Dutch, short and sharp so, it's the gutteral G followed by oud which rhymes with "loud" and mijn rhymes with "mine". Two syllables, Goud and mine. Simple. Hopefully @Owen87ITK will read this and correct his pronunciation of Goudmijn. Hopefully he will turn out to be a ggggold mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 13 hours ago, oldtimeram said: If we sign any of these foreign players mentioned, they will have to get some practice in getting the names right. What happened to names like Webster, Davies and Hinton lol? Oops, I think this is the wrong forum section......I've had a drink lol I remember you posting the same thing in the 50s moaning about Irish names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeram Posted July 19 Author Share Posted July 19 26 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: I remember you posting the same thing in the 50s moaning about Irish names. Quite right too lol 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen87ITK Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 57 minutes ago, MadAmster said: As I'm fluent in Dutch, having lived here since 1984, I'll help with the correct pronunciation of Kenzo's surname. The G in Dutch is a gutteral sound. You are probably all capable of spitting, commencing with that throaty "gargle". That's the G sound in Dutch, short and sharp so, it's the gutteral G followed by oud which rhymes with "loud" and mijn rhymes with "mine". Two syllables, Goud and mine. Simple. Hopefully @Owen87ITK will read this and correct his pronunciation of Goudmijn. I don’t doubt your credentials, and I know I’m not quite hitting the gargle sound quite right every time. It’s a bit tricky in the flow of a commentary when you’re not used to it. But I went back and forth with Kenzo about 15 times to get it right, and he was happy with my pronunciation so 🤷🏻♂️ DerbyAleMan, Ram@Lincoln, Carnero and 6 others 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 hour ago, Owen87ITK said: I don’t doubt your credentials, and I know I’m not quite hitting the gargle sound quite right every time. It’s a bit tricky in the flow of a commentary when you’re not used to it. But I went back and forth with Kenzo about 15 times to get it right, and he was happy with my pronunciation so 🤷🏻♂️ You can remember the rhyme with loud every time you look at Barks jumpers😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBX1985 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 18 hours ago, oldtimeram said: If we sign any of these foreign players mentioned, they will have to get some practice in getting the names right. What happened to names like Webster, Davies and Hinton lol? Oops, I think this is the wrong forum section......I've had a drink lol They usually have a phonetic "what it sounds like" version next to names (I recall Motty showed how he managed the names in a game between Poland and the Czech Republic years back): Reading... Red-ing Hunstanton - Huns-ton. Berkshire - Bark-shire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadAmster Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 23 hours ago, Owen87ITK said: I don’t doubt your credentials, and I know I’m not quite hitting the gargle sound quite right every time. It’s a bit tricky in the flow of a commentary when you’re not used to it. But I went back and forth with Kenzo about 15 times to get it right, and he was happy with my pronunciation so 🤷🏻♂️ A gentleman such as yourself probably doesn't spit anyway so the H sound at the beginning is perfectly acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 32 minutes ago, MadAmster said: A gentleman such as yourself probably doesn't spit anyway Premier ram, Crewton, rynny and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 On 19/07/2024 at 14:37, Owen87ITK said: I don’t doubt your credentials, and I know I’m not quite hitting the gargle sound quite right every time. It’s a bit tricky in the flow of a commentary when you’re not used to it. But I went back and forth with Kenzo about 15 times to get it right, and he was happy with my pronunciation so 🤷🏻♂️ You’ll have to get him to do a short reel on how to pronounce his name. God help us if he doesn’t pronounce it like @MadAmsterdoes. Is Kenzo even Dutch? Do we have another Esteban Feutes on our hands? These are questions we need answers too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 12 minutes ago, Boycie said: You’ll have to get him to do a short reel on how to pronounce his name. God help us if he doesn’t pronounce it like @MadAmsterdoes. Is Kenzo even Dutch? Do we have another Esteban Feutes on our hands? These are questions we need answers too! It could be that they're just humouring @MadAmster and in reality he sounds like Arthur Bostrom speaking Dutch. We probably need third party verification before accepting his version over an actual Dutch bloke. Boycie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 3 minutes ago, Crewton said: We probably need third party verification before accepting his version over an actual Dutch bloke. Crewton, angieram, RoyMac5 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ck- Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 The trouble with pronunciation in English is things like this. “Read rhymes with lead and read rhymes with lead, but read doesn’t rhyme with lead and read doesn’t rhyme with lead” Various pronunciations to use in above: Read - present tense of verb to read Read - past tense of verb to read Lead - dogs collar Lead - the metal Carnero 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadAmster Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 17 hours ago, Boycie said: You’ll have to get him to do a short reel on how to pronounce his name. God help us if he doesn’t pronounce it like @MadAmsterdoes. Is Kenzo even Dutch? Do we have another Esteban Feutes on our hands? These are questions we need answers too! Kenzo's dad, Kenneth, who was also a professional footballer, was born in Paramaribo, Suriname. Kenzo was born in Hoorn in the Netherlands. He therefore qualifies to play for both countries. Ergo, he is Dutch. Fuetes? I don't recall having heard of a Derby player by that name... 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadAmster Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 (edited) 17 hours ago, Crewton said: It could be that they're just humouring @MadAmster and in reality he sounds like Arthur Bostrom speaking Dutch. We probably need third party verification before accepting his version over an actual Dutch bloke. 'Allo, 'Allo. Would you be happier if you knew that I possess Dutch nationality? Ergo, I am, actually, a Dutch bloke 🙂 Edited July 21 by MadAmster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeram Posted July 21 Author Share Posted July 21 2 hours ago, MadAmster said: 'Allo, 'Allo. Would you be happier if you knew that I possess Dutch nationality? Ergo, I am, actually, a Dutch bloke 🙂 Get yourself a game for Holland and you can then have a Dutch cap Ouch MadAmster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfc the 1 4me Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 I’m still not sure how Barkhuizen is pronounced, hear it differently with every commentator! Is it bark-ay -zen , bark-ow-zen or bark-hoo-zen? Someone please enlighten me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 3 minutes ago, dcfc the 1 4me said: I’m still not sure how Barkhuizen is pronounced, hear it differently with every commentator! Is it bark-ay -zen , bark-ow-zen or bark-hoo-zen? Someone please enlighten me! Tom rynny, angieram, archram and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadAmster Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 46 minutes ago, oldtimeram said: Get yourself a game for Holland and you can then have a Dutch cap Ouch Pity lots of mothers up the A52 didn't have one 😉 oldtimeram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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