Andicis Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 minute ago, G STAR RAM said: Didn't do us any harm last time when fans stayed away and only returned when we reached Wembley. Not exactly the sign of a harmonious or stable club is it? Not to mention the financial implication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Andicis said: Not exactly the sign of a harmonious or stable club is it? Not to mention the financial implication. But we've got some very nice colours we can chose from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 minute ago, sage said: so, when is a manager sacking justified? Well thats completely subjective. For me unless you're staring relegation in the face I don't think its too much to ask for a manager to be given a whole season with his own players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 33 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Got to love the number of 'I'm all for stability but...blah blah blah....sack the manager....' posts on this thread. Sticking with a manager that is demonstrating that he can't get the job done is potentially just as damaging as making overly frequent changes. Stability with the right person in charge is what we want. Sticking with a bad manager for the sake of stability is not. Carl Sagan, Wsm-ram and BPV 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: So how does stability come from sacking a manager and bringing someone in to play a different style of football 3 months after Warne has signed players to play in the way he wants? How's that then. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black ('n' White) Sheep Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 minute ago, G STAR RAM said: Well thats completely subjective. For me unless you're staring relegation in the face I don't think its too much to ask for a manager to be given a whole season with his own players. We're in League One for f*cks sake! We've just taken one point off of Cheltenham, Shrewsbury and Stevenage in recent weeks... do you think that's good enough? BPV and Andicis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Andicis said: Not exactly the sign of a harmonious or stable club is it? Not to mention the financial implication. Neither is sacking a manager after 12 games with his own signings. Not to mention the cost of that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) I did tell you all unfortunately… Warne isnt going anywhere soon. Edited October 30, 2023 by Millenniumram Jimbo Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: Sticking with a manager that is demonstrating that he can't get the job done is potentially just as damaging as making overly frequent changes. Stability with the right person in charge is what we want. Sticking with a bad manager for the sake of stability is not. I'm not sure you understand the meaning of the word stability? Dean (hick) Saunders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Black ('n' White) Sheep said: We're in League One for f*cks sake! We've just taken one point off of Cheltenham, Shrewsbury and Stevenage in recent weeks... do you think that's good enough? No, we are also only 14 games into a 46 game season, incidentally which Warne has yet to have even close to a full squad to pick from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Just now, G STAR RAM said: Neither is sacking a manager after 12 games with his own signings. Not to mention the cost of that! Going back to the original point though, it's no more stable to continue with an unpopular manager through dwindling attendances then it is to replace them and try something new. I'd imagine from a cost stand point, the lost revenue of a 4000-5000 drop in fans would soon end up costing us much more than paying Warne and his entourage and parting ways. RoyMac5 and Jimbo Ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black ('n' White) Sheep Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Just now, G STAR RAM said: No, we are also only 14 games into a 46 game season, incidentally which Warne has yet to have even close to a full squad to pick from. The players he has at his disposal (even with injuries) are capable of a lot better than what they are currently doing. Miggins and Andicis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: I did tell you all unfortunately… Warne isnt going anywhere soon. Sorry…..BT gave some of us some hope. Not to be the case. Never mind 🥲 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Andicis said: Going back to the original point though, it's no more stable to continue with an unpopular manager through dwindling attendances then it is to replace them and try something new. I'd imagine from a cost stand point, the lost revenue of a 4000-5000 drop in fans would soon end up costing us much more than paying Warne and his entourage and parting ways. Crowds won't drop 4 or 5 thousand. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Black ('n' White) Sheep said: The players he has at his disposal (even with injuries) are capable of a lot better than what they are currently doing. Are they? Based on what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Just now, Jimbo Ram said: Sorry…..BT gave some of us some hope. Not to be the case. Never mind 🥲 Unfortunately BT isn’t very on the money with anything other than player transfers from what I’ve seen. Weird, as his source is clearly accurate on those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 minute ago, G STAR RAM said: I'm not sure you understand the meaning of the word stability? Don't be condescending, especially when you are ignoring the point I was making. Keeping a manager that is taking the club backwards isn't stability, it's embarking upon a managed decline. If Warne was meeting the expectations set out by the club, and the expectations he set out for himself when he joined the club the calls for stability and patience would make sense. He is currently failing on both counts. Andicis, LeedsCityRam, BPV and 4 others 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: No, we are also only 14 games into a 46 game season, incidentally which Warne has yet to have even close to a full squad to pick from. Yes, and we're on exactly the same points as last season. Even with his own squad. How have we made 0 improvement? Isn't that what Warne is paid to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Crowds won't drop 4 or 5 thousand. It reached 21k under Nigel Clough. Could easily get there again. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Andicis said: It reached 21k under Nigel Clough. Could easily get there again. More quickly too. Nigel had a famous name. Andicis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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