Alph Posted November 13, 2023 Author Share Posted November 13, 2023 David Cameron will sort it. But anyway, call for a ceasefire you spineless whimpering cnuts. Let another country be America's favourite dog for a bit. There's no justification for what's happening in Gaza. Nobody has put forward a sensible reason this is self defence. "Israel has a right to defend itself" is such a vague dismissive rhetoric. "Humanitarian pauses" Come on. Jeez. Say that by the end of this Hamas will be completely destroyed? You can't. Ceasefire! Potentially 10,000 dead to achieve what? What results? How many Hamas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 54 minutes ago, Alpha said: David Cameron will sort it. He obviously wasn't happy with his quiet life. Couldn't they have at least given it someone fairly popular. Like Beckham, or one of the Strictly presenters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramit Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 14 hours ago, The Last Post said: There's an old saying Ramit..."you get what you pay for", We the people do get what we deserve, The trouble is most believe what we're told, Those in charge will lie their way to the top, The people do have a choice..."Anarchy" 67million live in the UK, The voting public have a choice, If they don't like the choice do they then hit the streets and remove those and if another incumbent lot come in and don't do as we were told...do we keep "rinse and repeat", Economy's, Stability public order would break down. The wealthy will always rise to the top, The weak will sink to the bottom, Then there's those in the middle, Those who are getting on in life, Have all the tools at their disposal, Those that have bought all the T shirts that were on sale, Those that today are very comfortable and just criticize those on social media 😁 Life can be cruel, It can also be kind, But you have to be cute on how to play those who think can play you 😉 I guess I am just too much of a commie to play the game in my own interest. Anyway, I think representative democracy has been terminally polluted by money power, I don't believe in it anymore. Can you name a politician that you trust? I can't. Some kind of direct democracy needs to be molded into a workable system I think and hope as the optimist that I am deep down. I believe in people when push comes to shove, I think we will overcome all obstacles. Naive idealism?, perhaps, but I dare not think otherwise. Alph, Ram-Alf and Comrade 86 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 30 minutes ago, ramit said: Can you name a politician that you trust? Stive Pesley and ramit 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Git Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 What I really don't understand is that those at the top want all the cake, including the crumbs. WTF is wrong with the greedy barstards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Politics thread? Thought that stuff was banned 🤷🏻♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 28 minutes ago, Archied said: Politics thread? Thought that stuff was banned 🤷🏻♂️ I'm saying nowt! 😂 Archied 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 33 minutes ago, Stive Pesley said: I'm saying nowt! 😂 Yep might be a good plan for us both , though Cameron pulling the strings for the tories and Blair doing similar over at labour pulls the curtain back a bit further on the illusion of democracy 😂😂😂 Stive Pesley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK-Ram Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Feel like Rishi recalling Cameron to try and steady the ship and help with all of this is the political equivalent of Mac walking into the dressing room at half time and taking charge.. Stive Pesley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 22 minutes ago, MK-Ram said: Feel like Rishi recalling Cameron to try and steady the ship and help with all of this is the political equivalent of Mac walking into the dressing room at half time and taking charge.. Except everyone looks at him and says Weren't you the guy who stuck your old chap in a pigs head? MK-Ram and Mostyn6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 please keep the thread on Palestine/Israel/Hamas/Gaza topic to avoid being locked. Although any Cameron bashing is always amusing . Stive Pesley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Mostyn6 said: please keep the thread on Palestine/Israel/Hamas/Gaza topic to avoid being locked. Although any Cameron bashing is always amusing . Cameron is foregin sec. He is the hero we all deserve. Withing 2 weeks I want to see pictures of him: Wearing a hard hat whilst overseeing the rebuilding of a Gaza Hospital. Sleaves rolled up. On a JCB helping to demolish the home of a "terrorist" in the West Bank. In full military uniform next to the Ukraine PM in a tank. Pointing his finger angrily at Putin on a Zoom call. From a secret bunker in rural Oxfordshire. Leicester Ram, Alph, Comrade 86 and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted November 14, 2023 Author Share Posted November 14, 2023 Sunak just repeats the same old s*** and doesn't actually answer the obvious questions "Israel has a right to defend itself" - it's currently attacking on two fronts, no? Where's the attack/defence crossover? It's always blurred when it's the West doing it "Hamas still hold hostages" - Where? In Gaza the place being bombed? Why would they give them back? Why wouldn't they stick them on a hospital roof? What's the attempt to rescue them? What's the Hannibal Directive? "Hamas seek to destabilise the region and must be destroyed" - Can you guarantee that they'll be destroyed after this? Can you even guarantee they won't actually find it easier to recruit and their support won't even increase? How many Palestinian lives is a Hamas member worth? "They hide in hospitals. In tunnels underneath" - So? What are you saying? Spit it out. Stop saying the same thing over and over like it's blatantly clear to any idiot that there can be no other way. You're not engaging. Your dictating. Address the arguments Mostyn6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Alpha said: Sunak just repeats the same old s*** and doesn't actually answer the obvious questions "Israel has a right to defend itself" - it's currently attacking on two fronts, no? Where's the attack/defence crossover? It's always blurred when it's the West doing it "Hamas still hold hostages" - Where? In Gaza the place being bombed? Why would they give them back? Why wouldn't they stick them on a hospital roof? What's the attempt to rescue them? What's the Hannibal Directive? "Hamas seek to destabilise the region and must be destroyed" - Can you guarantee that they'll be destroyed after this? Can you even guarantee they won't actually find it easier to recruit and their support won't even increase? How many Palestinian lives is a Hamas member worth? "They hide in hospitals. In tunnels underneath" - So? What are you saying? Spit it out. Stop saying the same thing over and over like it's blatantly clear to any idiot that there can be no other way. You're not engaging. Your dictating. Address the arguments He won't rock the boat with Braverman loitering stage-left. He can't be seen to look weak, now more than ever. First sign of bending and that bitch will be publicly jumping up and down on his nads, whilst squealing 'traitor'. Frankly, if we're looking to him to grow a pair and actually address the issue at hand, we could be in for a very long wait, though I suspect that privately, he might have plenty to say. Mostyn6 and Alph 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Comrade 86 said: Braverman loitering stage-left Stage far-right surely 😂 Alph, Mostyn6, Comrade 86 and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Mostyn6, ariotofmyown and Stive Pesley 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Braverman's resignation letter 😬...Sunak's a dead man walking 😁 Rev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 49 minutes ago, The Last Post said: Braverman's resignation letter 😬...Sunak's a dead man walking 😁 He's walked straight into the trap laid. Ram-Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 hours ago, The Last Post said: Braverman's resignation letter 😬...Sunak's a dead man walking 😁 Crewton, i-Ram, Ram-Alf and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 As much as I enjoyed this last post I see that the last 3 pages of this thread have become political. Sort it out Mods, even if it hurts a little to come down on the anti-Tory rhetoric. Stive Pesley, GB SPORTS, Mostyn6 and 3 others 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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