GboroRam Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 I've just been reading that China has devised a nuclear powered battery with almost zero radiation risk. Output is minimal and the life of the battery is 50 years. Interesting how this develops. First step will be a phone battery but who knows how it will go? We're still in the infancy of power development. Charging will be quicker, safer and battery capacity will be better. Right now it's workable but inconvenient. I'm sure filling stations were equally inconvenient in the dawn years of the petrol car. Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Git Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 17 minutes ago, GboroRam said: I've just been reading that China has devised a nuclear powered battery ...................... I can just imagine pulling into the filling/charging station............ 'Eight ounces of plutonium please' (what could possibly go wrong)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, GboroRam said: I've just been reading that China has devised a nuclear powered battery with almost zero radiation risk. Output is minimal and the life of the battery is 50 years. Interesting how this develops. First step will be a phone battery but who knows how it will go? We're still in the infancy of power development. Charging will be quicker, safer and battery capacity will be better. Right now it's workable but inconvenient. I'm sure filling stations were equally inconvenient in the dawn years of the petrol car. Yeah - we had an LPG camper van for a while and it was a nightmare trying to find places to fill it up before it ran out. Didn't help that the fuel gauge was totally unreliable But back on point - the EV race isn't actually about EVs at all - it's just about who can come up with the best battery solution. The car part is largely irrelevant. Just wheels to get you from A to B Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, GboroRam said: I'm sure filling stations were equally inconvenient in the dawn years of the petrol car. If yer use Costco, it still is since they quadrupled* their membership since covid! 🤣 *I made that stat up, but that's how it seems. No way was it anywhere near as busy, pre-covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 7 hours ago, Stive Pesley said: https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/16/tesla_owners_in_deep_freeze/ From my experience, the AC has negligible impact on the range. Driving style (going above 58mph, quickly accelerating, late braking) and temperature (cold) result in range dropping off. In the more extreme UK conditions going along the A38 at about 75mph, with quick acceleration off roundabouts, my true range would be about half. In the summer, going to and from work at 50mph I would get my true range. Even ICE cars are impacted by driving style. Depending on how you currently drive and the car you have, you could probably get an extra 15% more miles out of it if you practice hypermiling - something I grew accustomed to when driving electric. Even on a long distance motorway journey, I wouldn't go above 60mph as it would take longer to get to my destination by going faster and charging on the motorway than it would by going slower and only charging when I arrive at the final destination. kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) Don't buy one if you live somewhere that can get really cold: Cold kills Teslas... Edited January 19 by Gaspode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 https://thedriven.io/2024/02/22/corolla-killer-byd-launches-us15000-ev-in-direct-attack-on-legacy-makers/ BYD are surely going to start a price war with Tesla at this rate? cstand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 3 minutes ago, Stive Pesley said: https://thedriven.io/2024/02/22/corolla-killer-byd-launches-us15000-ev-in-direct-attack-on-legacy-makers/ BYD are surely going to start a price war with Tesla at this rate? This is the key quote from the article I think. "most legacy car makers, at least those that are bothering to make EVs at scale at all, are still focused on the top end of the market, selling premium and heavy and high cost EVs, largely to protect their ICE business. In the US, the major car makers are retreating rapidly on their EV plans." It's the likes of GM, Ford and Toyota who have most to lose here. David Graham Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 10 minutes ago, therealhantsram said: This is the key quote from the article I think. "most legacy car makers, at least those that are bothering to make EVs at scale at all, are still focused on the top end of the market, selling premium and heavy and high cost EVs, largely to protect their ICE business. In the US, the major car makers are retreating rapidly on their EV plans." It's the likes of GM, Ford and Toyota who have most to lose here. Well the ICE manufacturers will all lose out eventually anyway when they are forced to move to EVs or cease to exist My point was that the cheapest Tesla model in the UK currently is £43k - and that's a ridiculous price for a normal person If BYD are bringing EVs to market at a third of that price, they are quickly going to marginalise Tesla as a "high end" brand, unless Tesla also start to make an affordable model cstand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 43 minutes ago, Stive Pesley said: Well the ICE manufacturers will all lose out eventually anyway when they are forced to move to EVs or cease to exist My point was that the cheapest Tesla model in the UK currently is £43k - and that's a ridiculous price for a normal person If BYD are bringing EVs to market at a third of that price, they are quickly going to marginalise Tesla as a "high end" brand, unless Tesla also start to make an affordable model Even more ridiculous is an Astra for close to £40K and a Mini for over £50K - those are the manufacturers that will realy suffer if BYD undercut them.... cstand and Stive Pesley 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstand Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) BYD cars Fires, back axle falling off, doors falling off, air bags not going off. Edited February 27 by cstand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 2 hours ago, cstand said: BYD cars Fires, back axle falling off, doors falling off, air bags not going off. All Fire and theft policies are null and void cstand and David Graham Brown 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 4 hours ago, cstand said: BYD cars Fires, back axle falling off, doors falling off, air bags not going off. cstand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstand Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) 4 hours ago, Stive Pesley said: Tesla was the only manufacturer to win more than one award at the S&P global mobility automotive awards released yesterday. They actually won four awards. BYD won nothing. 10,000 EV cars abandoned in China. Chinese E bikes on fire as well. Edited February 27 by cstand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstand Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 On 19/01/2024 at 10:59, Gaspode said: Don't buy one if you live somewhere that can get really cold: Cold kills Teslas... https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/microwave-energy-could-fix-biggest-problem-facing-evs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstand Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) 15 hours ago, Stive Pesley said: Same as your post about KR1 in the crypto thread no meaningful research whatsoever. Telsa or BYD which car would you trust your loved ones to drive safely? Edited February 28 by cstand Stive Pesley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Boycie Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 On 17/01/2024 at 14:13, Stive Pesley said: Yeah - we had an LPG camper van for a while and it was a nightmare trying to find places to fill it up before it ran out. Didn't help that the fuel gauge was totally unreliable But back on point - the EV race isn't actually about EVs at all - it's just about who can come up with the best battery solution. The car part is largely irrelevant. Just wheels to get you from A to B I had a lpg conversion freelander, crock of poo in general, but we could run on either gas or petrol ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 17 minutes ago, Boycie said: I had a lpg conversion freelander, crock of poo in general, but we could run on either gas or petrol ? Yeah ours was duel fuel to be honest, but it was so uneconomical on petrol, compared to LPG we developed an aversion to running it on petrol unless we were desperate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 On 27/02/2024 at 12:22, Stive Pesley said: https://thedriven.io/2024/02/22/corolla-killer-byd-launches-us15000-ev-in-direct-attack-on-legacy-makers/ BYD are surely going to start a price war with Tesla at this rate? Looks like I was right, as reports are now suggesting that Tesla are binning their mass-market affordable Model 2 plans Seems that their tanking share price is focusing their minds on cracking self-driving, rather than mass market production of a standard drive EV - as long term, it's self-driving that will win the market (and up the share price) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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