Crewton Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 11 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: Guardiola is doing it this season woth Oscar Bobb, Cole Palmer last season, Foden before them, etc.. Possibly the worst example you could have chosen. Guardiola has the luxury of being Pep Guardiola, legendary coach and manager of the richest club in the world who have many games a season where they have the points sewn up by half-time, yet who still (in the eyes of many) held back the career of Foden by not giving him more game time when he was clearly ready for it. Your point about gradually increasing the game time of young players is well made, but whilst a youngster might be forgiven by our fans for "having a mare", Warne would absolutely get it in the neck without hesitancy from many for any consequential lost points, so I understand why he's cautious. Returning ram, Carnero, DiggerB and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 19 minutes ago, Crewton said: but whilst a youngster might be forgiven by our fans for "having a mare", I think you may be over-estimating some of our fans. See Morgan Whittaker. rynny, Caerphilly Ram, IlsonDerby and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Carnero said: I think you may be over-estimating some of our fans. See Morgan Whittaker. He did cross my mind as an exception, though I did say "might be" rather than "would be". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Crewton said: Possibly the worst example you could have chosen. Guardiola has the luxury of being Pep Guardiola, legendary coach and manager of the richest club in the world who have many games a season where they have the points sewn up by half-time, yet who still (in the eyes of many) held back the career of Foden by not giving him more game time when he was clearly ready for it. Your point about gradually increasing the game time of young players is well made, but whilst a youngster might be forgiven by our fans for "having a mare", Warne would absolutely get it in the neck without hesitancy from many for any consequential lost points, so I understand why he's cautious. I picked Man City as they arguably have the best youth setup in the world right now. If they see value in giving 10 minutes to youth players every now and then, it seems bizarre that we don't see the value in it when in League 1. Not happy with the Man City example? Pick another club. Bottom of PL2 side, Blackburn? They do the same too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Returning ram Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 16 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: I picked Man City as they arguably have the best youth setup in the world right now. If they see value in giving 10 minutes to youth players every now and then, it seems bizarre that we don't see the value in it when in League 1. Not happy with the Man City example? Pick another club. Bottom of PL2 side, Blackburn? They do the same too. Maybe worth reading this from Pep, https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/guardiola-has-not-become-more-fearful-of-giving-youth-a-chance-he-always-only-wanted-the-best/5t55a41xo1q510japwc6zvdjn No one is saying if they are good enough don't play them, but they need to prove themselves first, not just give 10 mins because they are young... Comrade 86 and Crewton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 42 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Losing 5-1 at halftime RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Crewton Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: I picked Man City as they arguably have the best youth setup in the world right now. If they see value in giving 10 minutes to youth players every now and then, it seems bizarre that we don't see the value in it when in League 1. Not happy with the Man City example? Pick another club. Bottom of PL2 side, Blackburn? They do the same too. I had a look at Blackburn's introduction of debutants aged 22 and under this season so far. Sensible, but not exactly revolutionary imo:- Gilsenan (20) has made 4 appearances (FLC - 1 full + 2 sub, + 1 League sub appearance). Bloxham (18) has made 2 substitute appearances (28 mins v Harrogate in the FLC and 12 mins v Plymouth in the Champ). Batty (18) made 1 full appearance v Walsall in the FLC. Gamble (20) made 1 full appearance in the FLC v Harrogate. Two further players, Aitcheson (17) and Edmondson (18) came on against Harrogate when Blackburn were already 5-0 up, but haven't featured since. So 6 players given "game time" but only 2 players have made brief sub appearances in the League, while the others played against teams 2 divisions below in the FLC, mostly in a route against Harrogate. And they haven't had their Academy cleared of talent in the last 3 years by financial problems and administration. DCFC, by comparison, have given "game time" with the first team to 9 debutants under 22. Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram@Lincoln Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Question for those in the academy know, are there any whispers of pro contracts/scholarships being given out/offered any time soon? I was chatting to some folk involved in the Lincoln setup and they're trying to sort everyone out pre Christmas, so anyone not in the plans have all of January to either get sorted/in the shop window on loan, for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 ramit, Comrade 86, angieram and 14 others 9 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Teale Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 00:23, Ram@Lincoln said: Question for those in the academy know, are there any whispers of pro contracts/scholarships being given out/offered any time soon? I was chatting to some folk involved in the Lincoln setup and they're trying to sort everyone out pre Christmas, so anyone not in the plans have all of January to either get sorted/in the shop window on loan, for next season. 6 odd have been offered scholarships, the rest have been released was told Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 6 hours ago, Caerphilly Ram said: RESULT! whiteroseram, IslandExile, angieram and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ghost of Clough Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 2-1 loss in the end. Allen scored in the 80th minute to pull us level. We lost to a 98th minute own goal RoyMac5 and Dordogne-Ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 4 of us leaving shortly to go and support the U18s at Old Trafford tonight, want to wish the lads luck and make us proud , a tie with Swindon awaits the winners COYR Wistaston Ram, angieram, Returning ram and 8 others 1 4 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jram Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Apologies if this has been answered but is it televised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 33 minutes ago, Jram said: Apologies if this has been answered but is it televised? Yes. On mutv so there will be streams somewhere online. Jram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Not far off a full strength U18 side, with Cox being the main absentee. RoyMac5 and angieram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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