Vienna Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Not from Derby so not totally sure what, if anything, the City Council are doing to help? Without DCFC surely the city (and the council) lose millions - appreciate not everyone in Derby has an interest in Derby but the loss of the club without doubt impacts on everyone in some way. Got to be more that they can do, even if only short term loans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vienna Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 Hopefully that’s not the full extent of their support? Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Just now, Vienna said: Hopefully that’s not the full extent of their support? It isn't. They have held meetings and the leader if the council has been all over the story. The council get a lot of stick but imo they have dealt with this well. SaffyRam, Pikeyram and Miggins 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, Vienna said: Not from Derby so not totally sure what, if anything, the City Council are doing to help? Without DCFC surely the city (and the council) lose millions - appreciate not everyone in Derby has an interest in Derby but the loss of the club without doubt impacts on everyone in some way. Got to be more that they can do, even if only short term loans? I read that DCFC is worth over £100m annually to the local economy, so yes they certainly do have a financial interest in helping us to survive. Miggins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 47 minutes ago, Vienna said: Not from Derby so not totally sure what, if anything, the City Council are doing to help? Without DCFC surely the city (and the council) lose millions - appreciate not everyone in Derby has an interest in Derby but the loss of the club without doubt impacts on everyone in some way. Got to be more that they can do, even if only short term loans? This is a tricky one, The Council leader Chris Poulter is also a season ticket holder at DCFC, They do put their hands in the funds they have, But to put in millions even if a loan someone or something will have to take a back seat. Derby County DOES bring in much needed cash and are a huge asset to the community, This would have to have cross party support for a loan, I just don't see this happening Ken Tram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Vienna said: Not from Derby so not totally sure what, if anything, the City Council are doing to help? Without DCFC surely the city (and the council) lose millions - appreciate not everyone in Derby has an interest in Derby but the loss of the club without doubt impacts on everyone in some way. Got to be more that they can do, even if only short term loans? Not much the council can do. They aren't exactly flush with cash. They have however been vocal in their support and involvement with the save Derby campaign. Kathcairns and Miggins 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, Unlucky Alf said: This is a tricky one, The Council leader Chris Poulter is also a season ticket holder at DCFC, They do put their hands in the funds they have, But to put in millions even if a loan someone or something will have to take a back seat. Derby County DOES bring in much needed cash and are a huge asset to the community, This would have to have cross party support for a loan, I just don't see this happening I think they should be prepared to assist if MM will not. Problem is, are they allowed to under their constitution? does anyone know ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 minute ago, kevinhectoring said: I think they should be prepared to assist if MM will not. Problem is, are they allowed to under their constitution? does anyone know ? I know last time we were in big trouble back in the 1980s the Council helped out .. but they are pretty broke now too aren't they? Kathcairns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Vienna said: Not from Derby so not totally sure what, if anything, the City Council are doing to help? Without DCFC surely the city (and the council) lose millions - appreciate not everyone in Derby has an interest in Derby but the loss of the club without doubt impacts on everyone in some way. Got to be more that they can do, even if only short term loans? They've come together with MPs, Marketing Derby and big employers like RR, Toyota as "Team Derby" to support the administrators and exert pressure where they can. Leader of Council set up the meeting with Mel Morris that probably paved the way for Mel's statement yesterday. Very supportive with the walk - Mayor and lots of employees there as well as councillors. If you read the Derby County updates thread, the John Forkin posts give more details about what Team Derby are doing. Miggins, TuffLuff, Kathcairns and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 40 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: I think they should be prepared to assist if MM will not. Problem is, are they allowed to under their constitution? does anyone know ? Below is the make up of DCC, The Tories hold power in a minority council, Like Westminster, Councils are no different, Politics will get in the way of what would be common sense, Spend a few million to keep generating 10s of millions I'm pretty sure most Councils have money tucked away over the years from Council house sales but need the Governments permission to release those funds, Also Pensions, Money invested in Art and so fourth, But if they dip in to those funds they lose out on Government pay outs. So a Catch22 ?♂️ Conservative: 21 seats Labour: 13 seats Liberal Democrats: 8 seats Reform Derby Group: 6 seats Independent: 3 seats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vienna Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 Don’t know what the restrictions are on Council activities (sure there are many) but would be interesting to know in what extreme circumstances, for the good of the city, they could utilise their available borrowing facilities? From financial statements… “In 2020/21 the Council had an authorised limit for external debt of £880.0m that compares to the actual level of debts outstanding at 31 March 2021 of £432.7m.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 If it came to it I think the council could agree a loan to help keep DCFC alive. I'm fairly sure the cross party thing wouldn't be an issue. As @angieram has said, the council have shown support and are an integral part of Team Derby along with local business etc. Miggins, angieram and Kathcairns 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, uttoxram75 said: If it came to it I think the council could agree a loan to help keep DCFC alive. I'm fairly sure the cross party thing wouldn't be an issue. As @angieram has said, the council have shown support and are an integral part of Team Derby along with local business etc. I would like to think that the council would agree a loan to the club if needed to keep our club alive. Afterall it's a fundamental part of our community in Derby and the club brings a large amount of revenue to the city. Could those of us who live in Derby perhaps write a letter to the City Council to ask/request this. Edited February 5, 2022 by Ram1988 uttoxram75, Vienna and Miggins 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vienna Posted February 6, 2022 Author Share Posted February 6, 2022 Taken from Annual Report - surely DCFC fall into all 3 objectives. This is more relevant than the “national picture” (most aren’t giving / won’t give any thought to Derby) - people of Derby need to demand immediate, REAL, action from their City Council (not just a couple of signs!!) “The Council's delivery plan has the following themes: A city with big ambitions - where the focus is on culture, economy, regeneration, skills and transport. A city of health and happiness - where the focus is on children and adults, health and wellbeing, housing, leisure and neighbourhoods. A council focussed on the things that matter - where the focus is on delivering for Derby, engaged, modern and efficient and value for money.” Ram1988 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 3 hours ago, Vienna said: Taken from Annual Report - surely DCFC fall into all 3 objectives. This is more relevant than the “national picture” (most aren’t giving / won’t give any thought to Derby) - people of Derby need to demand immediate, REAL, action from their City Council (not just a couple of signs!!) “The Council's delivery plan has the following themes: A city with big ambitions - where the focus is on culture, economy, regeneration, skills and transport. A city of health and happiness - where the focus is on children and adults, health and wellbeing, housing, leisure and neighbourhoods. A council focussed on the things that matter - where the focus is on delivering for Derby, engaged, modern and efficient and value for money.” 100% Jimbo Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 15 hours ago, Ram1988 said: I would like to think that the council would agree a loan to the club if needed to keep our club alive. Afterall it's a fundamental part of our community in Derby and the club brings a large amount of revenue to the city. Could those of us who live in Derby perhaps write a letter to the City Council to ask/request this. Why doesn’t the city indemnify the club against the claims and allow the sale to proceed. If they do that I doubt the claims would even be brought. Preferable for MM to do it of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 15 hours ago, Ram1988 said: I would like to think that the council would agree a loan to the club if needed to keep our club alive. Afterall it's a fundamental part of our community in Derby and the club brings a large amount of revenue to the city. Could those of us who live in Derby perhaps write a letter to the City Council to ask/request this. Aren't all local councils totally borassic? Nottingham City Council being a prime example. Kathcairns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggins Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 19 hours ago, Unlucky Alf said: This is a tricky one, The Council leader Chris Poulter is also a season ticket holder at DCFC, They do put their hands in the funds they have, But to put in millions even if a loan someone or something will have to take a back seat. Derby County DOES bring in much needed cash and are a huge asset to the community, This would have to have cross party support for a loan, I just don't see this happening In an ideal world I think they might help out financially to help out the economy of the city, but as you say, it's a tricky one. With rumours of council taxes going up, care homes closing, it might be a contentious issue. I agree with you, btw. Ram-Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 On 05/02/2022 at 20:57, kevinhectoring said: I think they should be prepared to assist if MM will not. Problem is, are they allowed to under their constitution? does anyone know ? Why should they when they are a creditor and the council tax payers of Derby City Council will have to make up the shortfall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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