RoyMac5 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, tinman said: If you disagree or criticise the board they close ranks and resist change. Softly, softly, catchee monkey. Edited October 29, 2021 by RoyMac5 overlandandsea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 25 minutes ago, overlandandsea said: For clarity, because I for one don't know, and I'm sure many others don't know either - can RT list any/all achievements in the last 5-10 years? I think they have a web site that gives some information on it. Have you any suggestions of what you would have liked to have been done by them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamsfanJim Posted October 29, 2021 Author Share Posted October 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Tyler Durden said: What do you get for your 2 quid....like mailing list, online discussion forum (not Twitter), newsletters, updates etc? I understand that you are then eligible to vote after you pay your subs but was looking for things beyond that as above. What else would you expect for £2 (and we haven't had a renewal fee for many years)? We do have to pay for auditors, website hosting, etc. - though our costs have reduced considerably from when we used to have to post out to all members. Tyler Durden 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, RamsfanJim said: What else would you expect for £2 (and we haven't had a renewal fee for many years)? We do have to pay for auditors, website hosting, etc. - though our costs have reduced considerably from when we used to have to post out to all members. Was just an honest question regards how information is disseminated.....was really alluding to the electronic dissemination of information by RT as have an intense dislike of Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Just now, Tyler Durden said: Was just an honest question regards how information is disseminated.....was really alluding to the electronic dissemination of information by RT as have an intense dislike of Twitter. There’s also the separate mailing list that you have to ask to be a part of. which you only know about if you read right to the bottom of the welcome email. Tyler Durden 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamsfanJim Posted October 29, 2021 Author Share Posted October 29, 2021 32 minutes ago, overlandandsea said: For clarity, because I for one don't know, and I'm sure many others don't know either - can RT list any/all achievements in the last 5-10 years? Continuing to represent members at club meetings and in the media. Contributing to national supporters campaigns (including: meeting in Parliament to promote safe standing - which has been successful, fan-led review - presented to Tracey Crouch, reporting next month). Got all supporters groups together to force the club to actually respond to supporters. There are also multiple occasions we have represented fans concerns (both general and individual) which the club has acted on. LeedsCityRam, GlastoEls and bcnram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamsfanJim Posted October 29, 2021 Author Share Posted October 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Was just an honest question regards how information is disseminated.....was really alluding to the electronic dissemination of information by RT as have an intense dislike of Twitter. Fine, it was a genuine question - is there something else you think the Trust should do for members which we are not doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 1 minute ago, RamsfanJim said: Fine, it was a genuine question - is there something else you think the Trust should do for members which we are not doing? You're very confrontational for someone trying to recruit new members Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Philmycock said: You're very confrontational for someone trying to recruit new members They don’t like new members with new ideas. Comrade 86 and Philmycock 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 52 minutes ago, overlandandsea said: I might want to join to change the rules, objectives to make it more appealing, as well as removing the fee...but as I dont agree with the rules as they stand, my application will get rejected Whereas you joined here yesterday without any agenda? archram, Rev, LeedsCityRam and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 1 minute ago, RamsfanJim said: Fine, it was a genuine question - is there something else you think the Trust should do for members which we are not doing? I'll be honest with you I was asking about the communication of information as was considering joining and already had a look on your weblinks....so the fairest answer would be I do join then at least I can give an informed opinion. That is if my application is accepted....the Groucho Marx quote springs to mind..... RamsfanJim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Philmycock said: You're very confrontational for someone trying to recruit new members Why is that confrontational? Just asking a question. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 13 minutes ago, angieram said: Why is that confrontational? Just asking a question. They've been confrontational for 10+ years, don't believe the hype RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overlandandsea Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 20 minutes ago, angieram said: Whereas you joined here yesterday without any agenda? your point is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overlandandsea Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 29 minutes ago, RamsfanJim said: Continuing to represent members at club meetings and in the media. Contributing to national supporters campaigns (including: meeting in Parliament to promote safe standing - which has been successful, fan-led review - presented to Tracey Crouch, reporting next month). Got all supporters groups together to force the club to actually respond to supporters. There are also multiple occasions we have represented fans concerns (both general and individual) which the club has acted on. so, to me in the South Stand, that means nothing...what about cheaper tickets, cheap away travel, greater choice in the concourse, fans picking the kit colours/style, items in the Megastore, allowing home fans buses and cars to leave before the away fan coaches..I think most people recognise that fan-led review doen't have any real fans on it so impossible to make any sensible suggestions. Philmycock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, overlandandsea said: so, to me in the South Stand, that means nothing...what about cheaper tickets, cheap away travel, greater choice in the concourse, fans picking the kit colours/style, items in the Megastore, allowing home fans buses and cars to leave before the away fan coaches..I think most people recognise that fan-led review doen't have any real fans on it so impossible to make any sensible suggestions. Why shouldn't away fans coaches leave before home fans? They've got longer to travel after all, and are smaller in number. bcnram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewe Ram Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 10 hours ago, angieram said: How many years have to go by before people move on, though? 5? 10? 15? People commit crimes, are sentenced and released back into society in less time than some seem to bear grudges. More than that. I cut ties with them during the 3 Amigos era because of one person ensconced in there and they are still there so I will not be rejoining. Ram-Alf and angieram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamsfanJim Posted October 29, 2021 Author Share Posted October 29, 2021 26 minutes ago, overlandandsea said: so, to me in the South Stand, that means nothing...what about cheaper tickets, cheap away travel, greater choice in the concourse, fans picking the kit colours/style, items in the Megastore, allowing home fans buses and cars to leave before the away fan coaches..I think most people recognise that fan-led review doen't have any real fans on it so impossible to make any sensible suggestions. If there is enough support for these suggestions we can put to the club (when there are new owners), but RamsTrust are not ultimately responsible for any of these. Please justify which contributors to the fan-led review are not 'real fans'?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltRam Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 13 hours ago, Eddie said: Basically, you are saying that there's no point in even bothering? We bother with or without RT, we have a natural parliament which meets Saturdays at 3pm, and when there's something to say, we tend to say it. Trusts can't lead that 'debate' any more than anyone else. The best they can do is listen to where we're going and try to walk in front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Needlesh said: We bother with or without RT, we have a natural parliament which meets Saturdays at 3pm, and when there's something to say, we tend to say it. Trusts can't lead that 'debate' any more than anyone else. The best they can do is listen to where we're going and try to walk in front. "Booooooooooooooo"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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