angieram Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 8 hours ago, Ramifications said: I only saw the brief highlights against Bristol City because of working. Just wondering, did Allsop play well enough to retain his place against, Blackpool? Didn't have anything to do, really. Handling was good. Some short passes out from back a bit worrying, but same as Roos in that respect. They are being coached to do it, we have to put up with it. Kicking didn’t really find anyone, either. Who is there to find? Ramifications 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramifications Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Much of a muchness then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 The Athletic has produced an article this morning saying that statistically, Allsop is better. I haven't read it because it's behind a paywall. Not sure this divisiveness helps in the current situation, tbh. They are both decent championship goalies and are the least of our problems. Paying Marshall to not be involved is more of an issue for me. Hope someone takes him off our hands in January. Carnero, Rammy03, Ramarena and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubbs Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 43 minutes ago, angieram said: The Athletic has produced an article this morning saying that statistically, Allsop is better. I haven't read it because it's behind a paywall. It's an incredibly basic article comparing them in 3 aspects, distribution, shotstopping and "handling." I say "handling" as it's based on gathers rather than catching. The stats used are incredibly basic ones that you can find on any stats website and they don't really prove anything. In the distribution section they're basically the same stats wise, with Allsop being better at some things, Roos being better at others, but he's come to the conclusion of Allsop is (just) better. You can't really compare statistics when Allsop has started 5 games. I mentioned this in the Roos transfer topic, but Allsop seemed to get away with criticism at the weekend. His positioning and week wrist for Bristol's goal was quite poor and if it was Roos, Roos 10000% would've been bombarded with hate on twitter etc for being awful yet there was barely a word about Allsop... Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 31 minutes ago, Jubbs said: It's an incredibly basic article comparing them in 3 aspects, distribution, shotstopping and "handling." I say "handling" as it's based on gathers rather than catching. The stats used are incredibly basic ones that you can find on any stats website and they don't really prove anything. In the distribution section they're basically the same stats wise, with Allsop being better at some things, Roos being better at others, but he's come to the conclusion of Allsop is (just) better. You can't really compare statistics when Allsop has started 5 games. I mentioned this in the Roos transfer topic, but Allsop seemed to get away with criticism at the weekend. His positioning and week wrist for Bristol's goal was quite poor and if it was Roos, Roos 10000% would've been bombarded with hate on twitter etc for being awful yet there was barely a word about Allsop... Agree about there being nothing between them, but I do think there were outfield players a lot more culpable for the goal on Saturday than Allsop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubbs Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, angieram said: I do think there were outfield players a lot more culpable for the goal on Saturday than Allsop. Oh definitely and it wasn't Allsop at fault either, but Roos was slated by fans for Gray's goal last week yet no one said much about Allsop angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Jubbs said: It's an incredibly basic article comparing them in 3 aspects, distribution, shotstopping and "handling." I say "handling" as it's based on gathers rather than catching. The stats used are incredibly basic ones that you can find on any stats website and they don't really prove anything. In the distribution section they're basically the same stats wise, with Allsop being better at some things, Roos being better at others, but he's come to the conclusion of Allsop is (just) better. You can't really compare statistics when Allsop has started 5 games. I mentioned this in the Roos transfer topic, but Allsop seemed to get away with criticism at the weekend. His positioning and week wrist for Bristol's goal was quite poor and if it was Roos, Roos 10000% would've been bombarded with hate on twitter etc for being awful yet there was barely a word about Allsop... Roos is better than Allsop, but that's just my opinion r_wilcockson, Jubbs, Adslegend and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 hour ago, angieram said: The Athletic has produced an article this morning saying that statistically, Allsop is better. I haven't read it because it's behind a paywall. Not sure this divisiveness helps in the current situation, tbh. They are both decent championship goalies and are the least of our problems. Paying Marshall to not be involved is more of an issue for me. Hope someone takes him off our hands in January. Roos vs Allsop Saves per 90: 3.0 vs 2.6 Short pass %: 98.1 vs 96.9 Long pass %: 26.6% vs 30.2% Clearances per 90: 1.5 vs 0.5 Based on Whoscored's match rating, there is nothing between them (6.57 vs 6.58) despite Roos picking up a red card. Jubbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Allsop, Roos or Marshall, There's not a great deal between them, They all have mistakes in them...as all goalkeepers have, Unfortunately Roos will have to live with the Wembley mistake, Allsop too has made rickets along with Marshall, It makes very little difference who's in goal for us imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 He gets my vote. The defence seem calmer with him in goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIMBAUD Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: He gets my vote. The defence seem calmer with him in goal. Never mind the defence; I feel calmer. ? I prefer him to Roos but Kelle has improved this season. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Foxy Ram and BriggRam 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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