24Charlie Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 (edited) The bookies still have us favourites to stay up. Here’s the scenario’s that make up their thinking. We may be favourites but right now it’s over to Rotherham. If Rotherham win their next two they are up unless we beat Wednesday by a minimum of 9 clear goals. Rotherham have a 6 goal advantage on us. Plus if they win those two games the goals they score in those games will add to that tally so in reality two wins will be enough for them. I think it goes to goals scored if goal difference is level which means we need to better their goal difference. Highly unlikely. If Rotherham draw one and win one then we need to beat Wednesday. If Rotherham lose or draw both or win one and lose one then we only need a point against Wednesday. Wednesday must beat us and hope Rotherham don’t win either of their games games to stay up. If Rotherham win one of their games then Wednesday can stay up if they can beat us and hope Rotherham lose one game by enough to achieve at least 6 goal swing. Wycombe need to beat Boro by at least 13 goals and hope other results go their way. There is a scenario where all 4 teams finish on 43 points. In that scenario Wednesday would of had to beat us and we would most likely finish 2nd bottom. A victim of our abysmal goal scoring record this season. Mathematically speaking if all 4 teams finish on 43 points then we are the only ones guaranteed to be relegated. Edited May 2, 2021 by 24Charlie therealhantsram, taffyram, Rammy03 and 3 others 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPlinkett Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1. Relegated 2. relegated 3. relegated I think that's it WhiteHorseRam, Mucker1884, Derby4Me and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24Charlie Posted May 2, 2021 Author Share Posted May 2, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, MrPlinkett said: 1. Relegated 2. relegated 3. relegated I think that's it Well the bookies don’t agree with you. Edited May 2, 2021 by 24Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPlinkett Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 minute ago, 24Charlie said: Well the bookies don’t agree with you. I hope they are right but the form table is shocking, feels like we have been on 43 points for so long its ridiculous. 24Charlie and WhiteHorseRam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 15 minutes ago, 24Charlie said: Well the bookies don’t agree with you. I’ve been watching this club for a lot longer than the bookies have - we’re going down and we thoroughly deserve to….. Wolfie20, ziggyram59, WhiteHorseRam and 2 others 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteHorseRam Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 33 minutes ago, 24Charlie said: The bookies still have us favourites to stay up. Here’s the scenario’s that make up their thinking. We may be favourites but right now it’s over to Rotherham. If Rotherham win their next two they are up unless we beat Wednesday by a minimum of 9 clear goals. Rotherham have a 6 goal advantage on us. Plus if they win those two games the goals they score in those games will add to that tally so in reality two wins will be enough for them. I think it goes to goals scored if goal difference is level which means we need to better their goal difference. Highly unlikely. If Rotherham draw one and win one then we need to beat Wednesday. If Rotherham lose or draw both or win one and lose one then we only need a point against Wednesday. Wednesday must beat us and hope Rotherham don’t win either of their games games to stay up. If Rotherham win one of their games then Wednesday can stay up if they can beat us and hope Rotherham lose one game by enough to achieve at least 6 goal swing. Wycombe need to beat Boro by at least 13 goals and hope other results go their way. There is a scenario where all 4 teams finish on 43 points. In that scenario Wednesday would of had to beat us and we would most likely finish 2nd bottom. A victim of our abysmal goal scoring record this season. Mathematically speaking if all 4 teams finish on 43 points then we are the only ones guaranteed to be relegated. Never mind the bookies, do YOU think we will stay up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, 24Charlie said: Well the bookies don’t agree with you. Bookies are wrong a lot. It's just people betting on 'likely' outcomes. Makes no difference, we are the worst form team in the league. I will be surprised if we stay up. Edited May 2, 2021 by TheresOnlyWanChope RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24Charlie Posted May 2, 2021 Author Share Posted May 2, 2021 This thread is just about the plain facts there’s plenty of threads open to comment on either negatively or positively. Like it or not we can stay up and people without an emotional connection think we can to. Rammy03 and r_wilcockson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24Charlie Posted May 2, 2021 Author Share Posted May 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, WhiteHorseRam said: Never mind the bookies, do YOU think we will stay up? No chance. JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteHorseRam Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 I suspect there will be only two stats that matter .. who scores ONE GOAL next Saturday and can then protect that lead. Rampage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 WhiteHorseRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Difficult to envisage us winning any game. Going back to the game against Barrow, we looked dire and we still do. If we could have picked a team for the last game then Wendies at home was a reasonable choice. We need some heroic performances and a lot of luck for this one. COYR SKRam, WhiteHorseRam, r_wilcockson and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StockholmRam Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Cant see Rotherham winning two. They maybe could get a point or all 3 v Luton. So, our saving grace could be that both us and Wednesday are so hopeless we might get a point. A horror of a season. Utter tripe. Cracks have been papered over too long. 24Charlie and Nishfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 38 minutes ago, 24Charlie said: Well the bookies don’t agree with you. Bookies had us favourites for the last two matches... jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 (edited) One outcome that is guaranteed... No stadium with 90% of the full capacity being negative/aggressive/abusive/a bit forlorn/depressed/brow beaten/pessimistic/half-hearted towards the home team, whilst 10% would be booming with vociferous support/raising the roof/backing the team to the hilt for the away team, whilst simultaneously giving it the big fancy dress/balloon/party atmosphere. Think back to previous home games v The Wendies in years gone by... and maybe give a teeny weeny itsy bitsy thanks for Covid restrictions! ? EDIT: But yeah... I'd still prefer to be there... just in case, like! ? Edited May 2, 2021 by Mucker1884 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilsonram12 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 I have a feeling we'll be relegated via goal difference, us and the Wendies to go down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Of course we can stay up. I don't think Rotherham are going to win both their games. A point might be enough. We can do that and should be able to do that. But will we? No. We've had chance after chance and blown it. It just seems so unlikely that this is the one game it'll change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 This lot couldn’t fight their way out a wet paper bag the sausages, only outcome is relegation. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Disrespectful to not include Wycombe in this discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, IslandExile said: Disrespectful to not include Wycombe in this discussion. Wycombe are even pooper than we are. Happy now? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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