Ilkestonian Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 I've been surprised by the number of penalty claims we've had turned down this season and I accept that this might be me being a bit paranoid or thinking there might be a conspiracy theory against us but it's crossed my mind that in the absence of being able to give us a points deduction, the EFL has instructed refs not to award us a penalty in order to punish us in other ways. I'm trying to forget most matches this season so can't list them but, every time I think we have a decent penalty shout dismissed, the thought crosses my mind and with each additional one I wonder even more. Anybody else thought similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 I think the same conspiracy during most games that we play, then I remember that it's the FA in charge of the refs not the EFL. They're just largely inept I'm afraid (Tim Robinson excepted), wondering if they're corrupt probably gives them too much credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 It’s the FA that set the referees, not the EFL. There’s no conspiracy, just incompetence. The quality of officiating in this country is embarrassing really. Can’t use it as an excuse mind, it affects every team, and you’ll get just as many decisions go for you as against you across the season generally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taribo Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 They’ve only bloody gone and bribed our players not to score from open play too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilkestonian Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 Thanks for the info about the FA in charge of refs and not the EFL, I'd forgotten that - still be nice to get a penalty though despite there being no guarantee we'd score it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, old ilkestonian said: Thanks for the info about the FA in charge of refs and not the EFL, I'd forgotten that - still be nice to get a penalty though despite there being no guarantee we'd score it. We've got the penalty master Waggers. Look how he buried that one against Swansea last season. Oh, wait a minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 I think pretty much everbody loves a good conspiracy theory, but believing in one whole different thing. There's been multiple soft penalty claims turned down, and TBH I'd be fuming if similar claims would've been were given against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 I don't think we've had a stonewall penalty turned down this year. Worst decision this season was probably missing the push on Davies v Forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 19 minutes ago, sage said: I don't think we've had a stonewall penalty turned down this year. Well I thought Buchanan against Stoke was stonewall but only once we got the feed from the camera behind the goal And he was almost sent off !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: Well I thought Buchanan against Stoke was stonewall once when we got the feed from the camera behind the goal And he was almost sent off !! It was giveable but not stonewall. You certainly couldn't blame the ref for not giving it with the angle he saw it at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, sage said: It was giveable but not stonewall. You certainly couldn't blame the ref for not giving it with the angle he saw it at. agree with your comment about the angle Just saw this tho : Former Premier League referee Mark Halsey has claimed that Derby County were not awarded a “clear penalty” against Stoke City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 The Stoke one was definite foot across and full body weight from the side . You will normally get 2 or 3 you should have and 2 or 3 you shouldn't over a season. We just don't create many scenarios to test the theory to the full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 I disagree that it evens out over a season. And it's surely apparent we have been significantly hard done by. But it's not simply this season, it's been the case for a few years now. While there is no "conspiracy" as such, referees do not feel inclined to give us decisions. Why is that? What are we not doing that other teams do? Or what are we going that they don't? Football is about fine margins and getting fair treatment would be worth a considerable points haul to us. We should be analysing the situation and also discussing it with those in charge of the refs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Your comment surprises me - am amazed that we've managed to get players into the box at all to warrant having a penalty shout turned down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 In Rooney’s absence, and with Waghorn getting mostly sub appearances, who would take a penalty if we got one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Hanlon's Razor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Now you say it.........I’m wondering whether there haven’t been a few throw ins given the other way too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB SPORTS Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 32 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: In Rooney’s absence, and with Waghorn getting mostly sub appearances, who would take a penalty if we got one? Marshall's been good on penalties this season. Oh wait a minute, wrong end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 This season we’ve been pretty adverse to getting into the penalty area - don’t get many penalties awarded for fouls near the halfway line.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 As others have said, the reason we dont get penalties is because we very rarely get in positions to get them. Cant think of a single claim we have had turned down that has left me launching expletives at the TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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