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Remember when we wasn’t scoring and Kevin Phillips was a coach at the club? He took the full blame for that, and I would expect Rosenior will be held responsible for the position we’re in now.

In fairness he I publicly held his hands up, didn’t want to distance himself from what has gone on.

How much of our position is to blame on him we’ll never know as much of his work is done behind closed doors.

Clearly knows what he’s talking about though, when we appointed him I saw many fans on social media slightly envious.

If the next Manager/Head Coach values his opinions, and the players enjoy working with him great. If not, let him go. 

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It's a bit hard to know from outside just how much good or bad he was doing. I think he was held in good regard at his previous club.

Always speaks well and is considered well liked i believe, but he's been part of the coaching set up since last summer and it's not really gone well.

I'm leaning towards the new broom if I'm honest, but I'm sure someone will give him a shot at it soon. Don't get me wrong, I'd be happy enough if new manager wants to keep him.

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4 minutes ago, David said:

Remember when we wasn’t scoring and Kevin Phillips was a coach at the club? He took the full blame for that, and I would expect Rosenior will be held responsible for the position we’re in now.

In fairness he I publicly held his hands up, didn’t want to distance himself from what has gone on.

 

Phillips would have done a better job by coming on as a sub for the last 30 minutes IMO, he knew where the onion bag was.

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4 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

How do we know if he is any good or not? None of us are on the training pitch or in the dressing room. 

That's the only sensible answer you could give to the question.

Unfortunately, I imagine it will be ignored.

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I think he comes across well, says the right things and generally represents himself and the club positively.

This however is perhaps part of a wider problem across many industries and walks of life. Rosenior and many others get overly praised/talked up before they’ve achieved any real track record whilst individuals with track records who tend to speak less eloquently or appear a bit dusty are written off very quickly. I suppose the style over substance is an age old debate but has been prevalent in Derby managerial appointments over the years re: Jim Smith

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8 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

What aspect of coaching does he do?

Not a great deal looking at the league table. 

Wasn’t he bought in as a “specialist” what’s he specialised in? It’s the worst football I’ve watched in years, players don’t look anywhere near fit enough and we’re bottom of the league. 

he’s on the training pitch with them every day, he’s as accountable as Phillip, Twan and Chris imo
 

 

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Jury's still out for me. 

I can't sit here and say he's a bad coach or a good coach. I'm not on the training ground so I don't know. 

I don't like his interviews or how he comes across at all. Talks a good game.

Literally says everything you'd want to hear. But unfortunately none of it really has any substance because we continue to not perform. 

Every interview he does sounds like he's reading off a script.

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Remember  Rosenior  being on sky when we famously  beat Leeds 4 - 2 ... along with Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink ,  the 3rd member skips my memory. .. Hasselbaink tipped Derby to beat Villa ,  Rosenior didn't choose ..the third member chose Villa ( perhaps that's why I can't remember  him ) ...  July 19th Rosenior joins Derby ... the bigger picture is I can't and won't judge him  as I don't have any insight  to whether Rosenior  is a good or bad influence 

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2 minutes ago, Derbados said:

Not a great deal looking at the league table. 

Wasn’t he bought in as a “specialist” what’s he specialised in? It’s the worst football I’ve watched in years, players don’t look anywhere near fit enough and we’re bottom of the league. 

he’s on the training pitch with them every day, he’s as accountable as Phillip, Twan and Chris imo

So his input directly correlates to the league table? So if we start climbing the league table now, and Rosenior is doing nothing differently, will he still be a bad coach or become a good coach.

I believe his specialist area was to help the younger players transition from the youth teams to the first team, his job description definitely said something along them lines when he was appointed. How would you say he has done if this is his jon remit?

If we don't fit enough I would have thought that was more the fault of our fitness coach (Shane Nicholson) than Liam Rosenior.

He is accountable for his own performance but without knowing what he is doing and what the players think of his methods its pretty hard to hang our current position on him, in my opinion.

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