RamNut Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 It’s a bit of a feeding frenzy on here. not sure cocu deserves that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 17 minutes ago, RamNut said: It’s a bit of a feeding frenzy on here. not sure cocu deserves that. The same Cocu who took a voluntary wage reduction earlier this season, and also donated a hefty chunk to local charities? I don't think he deserves it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Derby Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 He was employed using Frank’s transfer fee to Chelsea so it’s a gimmee really. Similar to signing Butterfield and Anya for large fees and getting zero in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, reverendo de duivel said: The same Cocu who took a voluntary wage reduction earlier this season, and also donated a hefty chunk to local charities? I don't think he deserves it either. yeah, he's a nice guy. maybe too nice. but as jose mourinho said "nice guys, they never win" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 5 hours ago, Ted McMinn Football Genius said: If Cocu does the right thing and resigns, then we don’t pay him off (I think that’s correct anyway)! Hence, don’t let’s hold all of our collective breaths for the much warranted resignation ?? “Money talks and then Phil walks” In what world is him resigning the right thing for him to do? If I was sat on the kind of deal where I get a monster pay off if I get sacked there is a 0% chance I will resign. Why should I expect different from anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Tyler Durden said: Nixon's opinion is well respected on Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chris_Martin said: yeah, he's a nice guy. maybe too nice. but as jose mourinho said "nice guys, they never win" True that, but it doesn't mean we have to be nasty cnuts in our response, to also quote Jose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 39 minutes ago, RamNut said: It’s a bit of a feeding frenzy on here. not sure cocu deserves that. The whole affair saddens me. I would hope we could all be grown ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 54 minutes ago, Pearl Ram said: Why should a new regime be saddled with someone that’s taken us to the bottom of the league ? Because he has a contract, and that's how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elgin_Ram Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Looks like I’m the only one on Philip Cocu’s bench. The man has endured so much crap, he deserves some decency and respect. I’m Derby through and through, over 50 years. Everyone is entitled to their views, but we need to be respectful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 2 hours ago, RamNut said: It’s a bit of a feeding frenzy on here. not sure cocu deserves that. Oh I think he does,lovely tinkering,stubborn bugger that he is . We didn't hire him to resemble a friendly Monk,he was here to win football matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Elgin_Ram said: Looks like I’m the only one on Philip Cocu’s bench. The man has endured so much crap, he deserves some decency and respect. I’m Derby through and through, over 50 years. Everyone is entitled to their views, but we need to be respectful. Just so we're on the same page what exactly is all of this crap that he's had to endure? I agree about treating people with respect by the way, I just take exception when people start trotting out that Cocu is our unluckiest manager. We're not bottom of the league as Cocu is unlucky let's be clear about that. And he has conducted himself professionally but I would expect that as standard for a football manager nowadays so don't expect accolades to be showered on him for what is a pre requisite for managing a football club. Frank Lampard take note after his Klopp outburst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 3 hours ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: In what world is him resigning the right thing for him to do? If I was sat on the kind of deal where I get a monster pay off if I get sacked there is a 0% chance I will resign. Why should I expect different from anyone else? Isn’t that exactly the point I am making?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 The liability is to the club because he is employed by the club not by Mel. This is why I don’t understand keeping him on - there’s no way on Earth a new owner will keep the gaffer responsible for us winning once in about 20 matches. Why not put him on gardening leave and get Wassall to take the reigns until the sale is complete and the new bloke has his guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 I heard that when managers get sacked it can take months to pay them off and they very rarely get the full contracted amount. Stick him on gardening leave and there’s no hefty pay off either yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB SPORTS Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, IlsonDerby said: The liability is to the club because he is employed by the club not by Mel. This is why I don’t understand keeping him on - there’s no way on Earth a new owner will keep the gaffer responsible for us winning once in about 20 matches. Why not put him on gardening leave and get Wassall to take the reigns until the sale is complete and the new bloke has his guy? Exactly this, but part of me thinks that this might have already happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, SIXTEEN AGAIN said: Exactly this, but part of me thinks that this might have already happened? I would have done it before the two very winnable home games we’ve just lost because it was clear before the two home games it just isn’t working out. Therefore why give the chance to win two home games to give a stay of execution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB SPORTS Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 5 hours ago, Tyler Durden said: Just so we're on the same page what exactly is all of this crap that he's had to endure? I agree about treating people with respect by the way, I just take exception when people start trotting out that Cocu is our unluckiest manager. We're not bottom of the league as Cocu is unlucky let's be clear about that. And he has conducted himself professionally but I would expect that as standard for a football manager nowadays so don't expect accolades to be showered on him for what is a pre requisite for managing a football club. Frank Lampard take note after his Klopp outburst. People calling him duck W**, and a ?. Not required and shows utter lack of intelligence and class by some posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967RAMS Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 The ultimate answer is Mel. Anyone buying a company will look at the value of the contracts and put the poor quality ones in the liability column when discussing the price. It’s not just Cocu, the back room staff will need paying off. Along with the scouting and recruitment teams. All of which will cost ££££ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 7 hours ago, Elgin_Ram said: Looks like I’m the only one on Philip Cocu’s bench. The man has endured so much crap, he deserves some decency and respect. I’m Derby through and through, over 50 years. Everyone is entitled to their views, but we need to be respectful. My bet is he is pissed that mel sold him a long term project then proceeds to search for buyers to sell the club to??♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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