We'll be back in 81 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, Longeatonram2020 said: Cliche I know, but he will be like having a new signing. But love to know what Cocu will do with him when fit. Either replaces Clarke/Te Wierik at the back or Rooney/Bird in midfield to get in the first team surely? Like you say he could drop into a back three or play in front of the defence as the holding midfielder in either formation allowing Rooney to play behind the striker or two strikers depending on the formation with Sibley coming on as sub after an hour to rest Rooney for the next game. The jigsaw is coming together. We seem to have some good people in our coaching set up now who know what is required. It looks like he will be able to change formation from a 5 at the back to a four depending on the opposition and also be able to do the same during a game if need be. Good options to have going into a season with a lot of games in a shorter space of time. I'm feeling more optimistic about this season than any other in recent years. I definitely think we will do better than last season. Bring it on.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, Longeatonram2020 said: Bird and Bielik with Te Wierik and Clarke behind is very solid, but then where do you play Wayne? Instead of Sibley? Bielik does cause a huge dilemma haha. If Rooney doesn’t stay past his contract (which I don’t think he will) we won’t need to worry about replacing him anyway. It's good to have Rooney and Bielik fit at the same time. Rooney won't play every game and we don't need to rush Bielik back either. When Bielik is fit, then let's see what the best combination is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longeatonram2020 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, hiltonram said: Like you say he could drop into a back three or play in front of the defence as the holding midfielder in either formation allowing Rooney to play behind the striker or two strikers depending on the formation with Sibley coming on as sub after an hour to rest Rooney for the next game. The jigsaw is coming together. We seem to have some good people in our coaching set up now who know what is required. It looks like he will be able to change formation from a 5 at the back to a four depending on the opposition and also be able to do the same during a game if need be. Good options to have going into a season with a lot of games in a shorter space of time. I'm feeling more optimistic about this season than any other in recent years. I definitely think we will do better than last season. Bring it on.? Think defensively we’re looking good. MTW, Clarke, Wisdom, Byrne all solid at this level, good experienced goalkeeper. Forsyth is steady enough and this could be Buchanan’s year to come of age. Then Bird/Bielik defensive mid options, Evans backup, as you said the puzzle is coming together. Built from the back, now let’s see who we bring in further up the field. Don’t think it’s all doom and gloom like some and I think we’ll have a steady season. Jozwiak and a decent forward could make us quite an exciting outfit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erathirea Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Crikey... Marshall Wisdom/Byrne Te Wierek Clarke Forsyth Bielik Bird Jozwiak Rooney/Sibley Lawrence Waggers/Marriott/New Signing That team is pretty exciting, TBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboto Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Better if you drop Forsyth and put Buchanan in there IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, erathirea said: Crikey... Marshall Wisdom/Byrne Te Wierek Clarke Forsyth Bielik Bird Jozwiak Rooney/Sibley Lawrence Waggers/Marriott/New Signing That team is pretty exciting, TBF So,nothing has changed from Mac1... According to this forum, Forsyth was our weakest link then and without a doubt, still is. Hats off and credit to him, that's an achievement and half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 33 minutes ago, SaintRam said: Bielik and Bird seems an ideal DM partnership tbh. Both excellent on the ball with one of them more adventurous with it (Bielik) and the other safer. If Bielik was going to be used as a CB - I couldn't see it happening outside of a 3CB formation, in which case he'd be replacing Forsyth with would be a huuuuuuuge upgrade. The back three at the moment is Wisdom/te Wierik, Evans, Clarke. Bielik would replace Evans, not Fozzy. Still a big upgrade though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longeatonram2020 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, roboto said: Better if you drop Forsyth and put Buchanan in there IMO. Think this season he has a real chance to establish himself. Forsyth is steady and nothing more, gives Buchanan a real chance to displace him and make the position his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We'll be back in 81 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, Longeatonram2020 said: Think defensively we’re looking good. MTW, Clarke, Wisdom, Byrne all solid at this level, good experienced goalkeeper. Forsyth is steady enough and this could be Buchanan’s year to come of age. Then Bird/Bielik defensive mid options, Evans backup, as you said the puzzle is coming together. Built from the back, now let’s see who we bring in further up the field. Don’t think it’s all doom and gloom like some and I think we’ll have a steady season. Jozwiak and a decent forward could make us quite an exciting outfit. I agree with you a decent forward who could play on his own or with Marriott in either formation makes for an exciting season ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: The back three at the moment is Wisdom/te Wierik, Evans, Clarke. Bielik would replace Evans, not Fozzy. Still a big upgrade though Ah true. Ok you can remove one of the 'u's from the adjective ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igorwasking Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Why wouldn’t you play Rooney upfront on his own - he could do that role easily enough - and better than Marriott or Waghorn. That then allows you to have Bielik and Bird in the middle? Marshall Byrne. Te Weirik Clarke. Buchanan Bielik. Bird Jozwiak. Sibley. Lawrence Rooney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Just now, Igorwasking said: Why wouldn’t you play Rooney upfront on his own - he could do that role easily enough - and better than Marriott or Waghorn. That then allows you to have Bielik and Bird in the middle? Marshall Byrne. Te Weirik Clarke. Buchanan Bielik. Bird Jozwiak. Sibley. Lawrence Rooney Rooney hasn't played up front on his own as anymore than a stop gap in a period of a game for half a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 I was one of Martin's biggest fans, but I can't see why Rooney couldn't replace him. What did Martin have that Rooney hasn't, apart from going down a bit easy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, ram59 said: I was one of Martin's biggest fans, but I can't see why Rooney couldn't replace him. What did Martin have that Rooney hasn't, apart from going down a bit easy? What's Martin got to do with it? The coaching staff have already stated they want to play with a higher intensity than last season ,which Ronney certainly won't do at CF. He also likes to drop deep to get involved in the build-up play, leaving us with no-one in the CF position. He's best as a CM these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Dimmu said: So,nothing has changed from Mac1... According to this forum, Forsyth was our weakest link then and without a doubt, still is. Hats off and credit to him, that's an achievement and half. He was a great player in a great XI under Mac, probably was the weakest link but only due to the consistent strength of the rest of the starting lineup. Now, he's a yard off the pace and is the weakest link based purely on his own performances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKRam Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Bielik thread has become Forsyth and I’m guilty too. Bielik new signing pretty much, injury free please. Never been a big Forsyth fan, he’s played well in some games I’ve seen, and he has a dedicated following, I appreciate that but his passing is still way too poor for me. I’d still buy him an alcohol free Becks though while I sup one of these..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammeister Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 1 hour ago, SKRam said: Bielik thread has become Forsyth and I’m guilty too. Bielik new signing pretty much, injury free please. Never been a big Forsyth fan, he’s played well in some games I’ve seen, and he has a dedicated following, I appreciate that but his passing is still way too poor for me. I’d still buy him an alcohol free Becks though while I sup one of these..... At 3.9% I’d have thought he have been alright with what you’re having, and perhaps still safely drive Keogh home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 8 hours ago, SaintRam said: Say it quietly but I probably don't play Wayne ? Or I have him rotating with someone further up the pitch - a role where he has to move for but doesn't play full games. Thing is .. he has such ability you could play him anywhere .. think about Wayne with 15 to go put on as a front man.. doesn’t matter .. other than central defence Wayne would make a difference to any championship side if he is given 15-20 minutes of energy to burn on aging after burners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 8 hours ago, roboto said: Better if you drop Forsyth and put Buchanan in there IMO. For me Fozzy is a committed backup or some height / strength if we need it against a certain opponent. Great Pro to have around but not necessarily a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugby Ram Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 More than anything, today shows how much we miss Bielik. His presence, height, ball winning ability and powerful driving runs were all really lacking in midfield. A Bielik Bird pivot gives us much more balance in midfield than a Bird Rooney one and will make us much more solid defensively. In the meantime I’d play Shinnie alongside Bird just to provide a bit of tenacity because Rooney really is a passenger off the ball and we just can’t afford that right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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