v Barrow (H) Match Thread

[CBRammette]

Cant remember us ever setting world alight against a team we should on theory and on paper easily beat especially at start of season. Exactly as expected!

[JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta]

I must say moving to a system that requires wing backs to work properly then selling the only two wing backs at the club that fit that system is peak Derby. 

[Rambalin]

Just now, Millenniumram said:

Well that was depressingly familiar. Lots of possession, decent in midfield, but absolute nothing in attack. No movement, nothing. Anyone who thinks Jack Marriott is the solution needs to watch that half and give their heads a wobble. We had about 80% possession and he touch the ball about twice - because he doesn’t pissing move! Desperately need some attacking incomings or we will never break teams down. System isn’t working for me either - we are defensive enough when we play 4231, 5 at the back just makes things worse, especially with the current wing backs who aren’t suited at all to the role. It’s leaving us with no attacking width, and we’re only a Forsyth or Evans rick away from losing this game. Positives are Bird as usual who is dominating midfield and putting some fantastic balls in, as well as Clarke and Te Weirik who look decent on the overlap. But based on this performance I’m struggling to see anything but another long season ahead of us.

No idea what you are watching Marriott is making run after run spinning of his marker and splitting the centre backs. The problem is behind him ball moving too slowly nobody going round the sides and the lack of anyone to provide imagination in passing forwards 

[Carl Sagan]

The final "pre-season" game. Sharpness not yet there. Need to move it oh so much faster and better. Be slicker. Of course one of the central three should be striding forward too drawing men out. Evans a lucky boy after his sloppy passing - he's better than that and has to demonstrate it or he'll lose the shirt. Well done to Kelle Roos in both situations.

Shame Sibbo didn't shoot when he created his opening on the edge of the box (finally), instead playing it wide for Fozzy to put a 50/50 ball into the box. Much better for young Louie to have backed himself and found a bottom or top corner in that situation. Clear shooting chances are at a premium.

But an OK first half. Just need to pick it up and play at our pace, not theirs.

[MackworthRamIsGod]

1 minute ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

I must say moving to a system that requires wing backs to work properly then selling the only two wing backs at the club that fit that system is peak Derby. 

Funny isnt it, we finally find a system that would probably work wonders with Lowe and Bogle in there and we flog them 

[Ellafella]

3 minutes ago, Millenniumram said:

Well that was depressingly familiar. Lots of possession, decent in midfield, but absolute nothing in attack. No movement, nothing. Anyone who thinks Jack Marriott is the solution needs to watch that half and give their heads a wobble. We had about 80% possession and he touch the ball about twice - because he doesn’t pissing move! Desperately need some attacking incomings or we will never break teams down. System isn’t working for me either - we are defensive enough when we play 4231, 5 at the back just makes things worse, especially with the current wing backs who aren’t suited at all to the role. It’s leaving us with no attacking width, and we’re only a Forsyth or Evans rick away from losing this game. Positives are Bird as usual who is dominating midfield and putting some fantastic balls in, as well as Clarke and Te Weirik who look decent on the overlap. But based on this performance I’m struggling to see anything but another long season ahead of us.

I’m trying to think if in my entire life I’ve ever before come across a left-footed player being played on the right. 

[RamNut]

Bird without Rooney has far more space and responsibility and looks good

evans has gone from being a fringe player to an essential key player in this system. Maybe Bielik will take over the sweeper role in the future?

the centre backs push up which compresses the space and makes it difficult.

its a system designed for wing backs but without natural wing backs to select. Not sure anyone would have predicted Buchanan at right back even after the team list was published.

It really would be ironic if we adopted this system and then sold bogle and Lowe.. 

so far it’s possession and control at the expense of anything else. 

if Roberts, jozwiak and Lawrence are to come in then presumably its at the expense of knight, Holmes and Marriott?
 

 

[Sith Happens]

Just now, Ellafella said:

I’m trying to think if in my entire life I’ve ever before come across a left-footed player being played on the right. 

max Lowe played there several times last season 

[Parsnip]

Swap Fozzy for Shinnie - lets see more of Laura Wood.

 

[neil62uk]

I'm trying to take a positive  out of this  .. the only thing I can come up with is IF BARROW had a striker we could have been 2 down .... hopefully the second half can only get better for us  " HOPEFULLY  "

[Carl Sagan]

2 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

I must say moving to a system that requires wing backs to work properly then selling the only two wing backs at the club that fit that system is peak Derby. 

Oh I'd missed that. Just catching up with the news over half-time. Bargain basement fee for the pair too. ?

[DerbyRam!]

They honestly seem like a nice bunch over on the Barrow forum. 

Here are some of the best snippets so far.

"Two great chances to be in front."

"Holding our shape really well. Impressed so far."

"Don't know how strong the Derby squad is, but so far we have given a really good account of ourselves. Looking like a solid unit."

"HT- I tell you what- that was a great first half for Barrow. Happy to let them have the ball and we’ve had two good chances, just needed a bit more composure, but very good half."

"Question for the Kendal area Bluebirds, Do we have much support in the area & will is now being L2, Can you see support growing??"

"0-0 after 15 mins and we’ve quietened the home crowd successfully."

?

"Meeting up for breakfast and then off to the pub to watch the game, can't wait!"

god you can tell I am bored.

[Alph]

Don't buy a striker or winger with pace. It would be like buying a hamster to guard your house.

Best bit was a couple of crap crosses and long balls that Barrow didn't think we would ever attempt. Me neither. 

[Xlor]

What I want to know is, Why do we have loads of stewards?

I imagine you already know what I'm thinking about the game and players.

Toss

[May Contain Nuts]

1 minute ago, Ellafella said:

5 at the back just makes things worse, especially with the current wing backs who aren’t suited at all to the role. It’s leaving us with no attacking width,

..and yet it's pretty much the only option we have to even try to get width into the team, because we have none up front. We go with the system and .. Bogle gets 'injured', Lowe 'not involved' & we end up having to play people in the wide positions who aren't suitable for the role...

[RamsFan10]

It was a questionable decision to start with wingbacks without a single attacking right back in the squad. 

[Sith Happens]

Just now, Xlor said:

What I want to know is, Why do we have loads of stewards?

I imagine you already know what I'm thinking about the game and players.

Toss

thank God you are here, this thread has been lacking some positivity ?

[NottsRam77]

23 minutes ago, Anag Ram said:

Forsyth looks way out of touch. 

Agree 

was thinking exactly that 

u see it with some players ... usually when they get to a certain point where u can literally read what their brain is thinking and what there next pass is 

if we can read it then u can sure ask hell be sure the opposition can to 

be just telegraphs everything he does 

don’t get me wrong fozzy bombing forward with those delicious first time crosses were a thing of Beauty and he’s still a good crosser of the ball ... defensively solid 

he’s just a bit of a liability in time and space on his own half 

[Coneheadjohn]

Glass half full,Bird looks a class act.

[Jimbo Ram]

4 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said:

The final "pre-season" game. Sharpness not yet there. Need to move it oh so much faster and better. Be slicker. Of course one of the central three should be striding forward too drawing men out. Evans a lucky boy after his sloppy passing - he's better than that and has to demonstrate it or he'll lose the shirt. Well done to Kelle Roos in both situations.

Shame Sibbo didn't shoot when he created his opening on the edge of the box (finally), instead playing it wide for Fozzy to put a 50/50 ball into the box. Much better for young Louie to have backed himself and found a bottom or top corner in that situation. Clear shooting chances are at a premium.

But an OK first half. Just need to pick it up and play at our pace, not theirs.

Our pace is pedestrian. As Higginbottom alluded to we need to move the ball quicker, increase the tempo. It’s ok having 25 passes but there is no end product. And not only is it ineffective it is so painful to watch...