sage Posted June 6, 2023 Author Share Posted June 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Doubtless you'd know better than me, but to be honest, I'd rather go into an Ashes series with a battle-hardened Mooen than the other options. I thought Ahmed might be ready, but perhaps they think he needs more experience. No guarantee Moeen will want to return anyway. One person's battle hardened is another man's shell shocked. Ahmed doesn't bowl tight enough is probably a year or 2 from playing regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) 51 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: The elephant in the room here is Stokes' lack of bowling. The only reason to have Leach (or any spinner) in the team is to allow rotation of the other 3 bowlers. That's why Leach was bowling on the first morning of the recent test against Ireland. England don't need/have/want an attacking spinner. They just need someone to occupy one end because they are not going into tests with a five man attack. Leach is tidy. Do we have another tidy spinner? I guess the closest like for like would be Liam Dawson, who's a gritty all rounder but a little short of Test class as a bowler. Not a bad option at no.8 though. If we're planning on bowling first most matches, as has been the way, then I think picking 4 seamers + Stokes + Root could be the way to go. Edited June 6, 2023 by Carnero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 22 hours ago, sage said: One person's battle hardened is another man's shell shocked. Ahmed doesn't bowl tight enough is probably a year or 2 from playing regularly. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/65831002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted June 7, 2023 Author Share Posted June 7, 2023 3 hours ago, 86 Hair Islands said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/65831002 Predictable and sad. Sends a shocking message to other younger spinners Not good enough now with either bat or ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 19 hours ago, sage said: Predictable and sad. Sends a shocking message to other younger spinners Not good enough now with either bat or ball Bit melodramatic Sage, but I take your point. Chester40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 I personally think Moeen Ali is better than Leach and I don’t see a problem. Chester40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 20 minutes ago, Curtains said: I personally think Moeen Ali is better than Leach and I don’t see a problem. He hasn't done an awful lot of bowling or batting in recent weeks. All 20 and quite a lot of bench warming too. Speaking as a Warwickshire man, I'm quite happy to see him go. Since he arrived from the IPL, we've lost all 3 games he's captained in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted June 8, 2023 Author Share Posted June 8, 2023 3 hours ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Bit melodramatic Sage, but I take your point. It depends how much you are into cricket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 2 hours ago, AndyinLiverpool said: He hasn't done an awful lot of bowling or batting in recent weeks. All 20 and quite a lot of bench warming too. Speaking as a Warwickshire man, I'm quite happy to see him go. Since he arrived from the IPL, we've lost all 3 games he's captained in. Yes but they have 8 points . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 India doing its' best to ensure the Ausies are in good form for the Ashes. Two of the first 4 batsmen clean bowled without offering a shot - bloody hell, even I couldn't do any worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 Australia look pretty good, don't they? Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 1 minute ago, AndyinLiverpool said: Australia look pretty good, don't they? Ominous, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tibbs Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 Handy runs from Carey and Starc down the order. Warner looks in terrible nick as a slight consolation for us. India started well mind, Rohit playing some shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 On 08/06/2023 at 11:43, Curtains said: I personally think Moeen Ali is better than Leach and I don’t see a problem. He definitely fits into the mould of the new approach. He attacks with the bat and has a little bit more character. Could be a great swansong for him. More worrying is the way we could have looked with a fully fit and firing Broad, Wood; Stokes, Archer type attack and the medium pace stuff we may end up with. Aussies definitely favourites for me. Comrade 86 and Curtains 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 19 hours ago, Chester40 said: He definitely fits into the mould of the new approach. He attacks with the bat and has a little bit more character. Could be a great swansong for him. More worrying is the way we could have looked with a fully fit and firing Broad, Wood; Stokes, Archer type attack and the medium pace stuff we may end up with. Aussies definitely favourites for me. I'd best avoid mentioning the spin role, but I do share your concerns about our bowling unit in general. Archer has that express pace that unsettles players and we don't really know much about the state of Stokes' knee. The Aussie unit looks pretty good and I'd agree that they are clear favourites for the series win. I'm hoping it'll be competitive though. I'll probably bet the Aussies tbh - that way if we lose, I'll at least have a few extra bottles of single malt to soothe the pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyram59 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Can't wait for the start of The Ashes tomorrow. Unfortunately I can only see a Aussie win really hope I'm wrong. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Well, as it's been so hot and dry the past month, the start of the test should at least herald a change in the predominant weather. Go rain affected draw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tibbs Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Can see a lot of tight games, 3-2 either way. Looking forward to heading down to Birmingham on Saturday, hopefully we're batting and my arms ache from all the boundary celebrations. Anag Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Really excited for the start of the Ashes today. Not sure Bazball will work against the accuracy of Hazelwood and Boland. Nor whether England’s old men can bowl Australia out (think Robinson will take more wickets). But readers on here will know I know nothing 😎 RadioactiveWaste and AndyinLiverpool 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: Really excited for the start of the Ashes today. Not sure Bazball will work against the accuracy of Hazelwood and Boland. Nor whether England’s old men can bowl Australia out (think Robinson will take more wickets). But readers on here will know I know nothing 😎 I think we will get a series where we might win a couple easily because of the batting, then also lose a couple miserably because of the batting 😄 JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta and RadioactiveWaste 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account.
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now