Van der MoodHoover Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 32 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: It came into play when Leeds went into administration (and a 10 point penalty) when they knew they were going down - wasn't it part way through their last day defeat against us? Rules then changed to prevent cheating the system Leeds? Cheat??? Surely not......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 I’m sure I just heard in the radio that the penalty is awarded next season. So it shouldn’t effect the standings this season at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharltonFan Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Just now, TigerTedd said: I’m sure I just heard in the radio that the penalty is awarded next season. So it shouldn’t effect the standings this season at all. If they finish outside the bottom three after 46 games, a -12pt deduction will be in place this season. If they finish inside the bottom three after 46 games, a -12pt deduction will be in place next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said: Points deduction this season if they are outside the relegation zone or next season if they finish in it. Hope EFL clubs rally round to stop this madness, unfortunately there will be many clubs such as Barnsley, Hull, Stoke and Boro who will be happy with this outcome. Barnsley owners are the 3rd richest in football aren’t they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Another success for the EFL as Wigan’s owners have just passed a fit and proper owners test - they just have no money that they are willing to spend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 great to see Whelans offered to help where possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, Squid said: great to see Whelans offered to help where possible. Na, his grandson's too busy in his pool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Van der MoodHoover said: Leeds? Cheat??? Surely not......? They spent the whole next season printing the table as if they had their points given back and hiring lawyers who didn't get them their points back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Ramslad1992 said: Never liked points deductions... punishing fans and players for something they've had no part of. I know what you mean, there has to be some punishment though in my opinion. I think Leicester did it for every other club since when they got away with it. Spent big, went into administration but got no points deduction and still went up. The company who built their stadium lost millions because of it. Its no fault of the fans, but no fault of all the businesses, which will include local business who end up getting 10p in the pound or whatever is agreed causing companies to fail and people to lose their jobs. So footballs fans for me having to start with a points deduction is small fry compared with those ending up on JSA looking for work because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Some suggestion that administration may have been a mechanism for *someone* to win an enormous bet in the Philippines. Rick Parry secretly recorded here. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/wigan-athletic-relegation-administration-latest-efl-chairman-rick-parry-bet-gambling-philippines-a9599176.html%3famp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipley Ram Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Something isn't right with this takeover .https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jul/02/story-of-how-wigan-collapsed-into-administration-au-yeung-investigation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, therealhantsram said: Some suggestion that administration may have been a mechanism for *someone* to win an enormous bet in the Philippines. Rick Parry secretly recorded here. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/wigan-athletic-relegation-administration-latest-efl-chairman-rick-parry-bet-gambling-philippines-a9599176.html%3famp Wow, just wow the fit and proper owners test is about as much use as a chocolate teapot! i can’t stand Rick Parry either, arrogant prat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 15 minutes ago, Shipley Ram said: Something isn't right with this takeover .https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jul/02/story-of-how-wigan-collapsed-into-administration-au-yeung-investigation More shady than the 3 Amigos. At least they had a plan of "borrow a bunch of shady money for a punt on going up, if we do we're loaded, if we don't we'll sell the squad and appoint Phil Brown, and pay ourselves massive fees along the way" That there is whole different level of wrong - file next to SISU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Twitter sleuths uncover that the new owner took control a whopping SIX days before filing for administration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoetheRam Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 There's a very interesting Twitter thread about this here: If what is said on there is the truth, then this goes deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 6 hours ago, Derbados said: Wow, just wow the fit and proper owners test is about as much use as a chocolate teapot! i can’t stand Rick Parry either, arrogant prat Maybe it’s just the fact that everyone who would want to buy a football club, and has amassed enough wealth to be able to afford one, is generally a sheister (with the occasional exception). so if you exclude all sheisters, there’d be no one left to buy any football clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, JoetheRam said: There's a very interesting Twitter thread about this here: If what is said on there is the truth, then this goes deep. If it's true, the size of the bet must be phenomenal ... to be able to throw away a £40m investment by putting the club into administration? Unless... and just thinking out loud here... it's not the owner set to profit from a bet, but some other party and the owner is acting under duress/in response to threats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 This will no doubt impact our own ongoing issues with the EFL. Not only are they showing themselves to be completely incompetent, but potentially corrupt as well??? Mel's gonna take them to the cleaners... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Buckley’s Dog Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Hate to sound like Sheffield Wednesday but I have been in touch with Wigan fans with a song they might like to borrow. duck the EFL Modern football is rubbish. Loads better when owners were shady haulage Company owners made good who wanted to impress their mates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 The EFL need investigating ASAP. If their fit and proper tests can't spot this sort of behaviour then I dont see how the EFL can be deemed fit and proper. Absolute scandal. In the legal battle we will inevitably end up fighting with them I reckon Mel will absolutely smash them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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