irobinson Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 We did well in goalie twilight years, Shilts, Wally and Carson get him in - fresh challenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 no idea if hart is the answer or not. we do need a good keeper though, it's a position that has cost us in the past 18 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Head and Shoulders above our other keepers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Avoid. When you are on a downward spiral like he is, there is often no way back. He's been at the very top. To motivate himself for the Championship when he is already a multi millionaire, it would take an exceptional person. I haven't seen any indication that he can begin to move his career in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser_23 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 5 hours ago, Mucker1884 said: "Hamer" and "Number 2" in the same sentence... It just never goes away, does it! ? Would work perfectly ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Joe Hart strikes me as a GK capable of playing up to and beyond the age of 40. This could be a very smart move because we may yet have seen the best from him. His record speaks for itself too. One of the best GK's the Premier League has seen. We can get him on a free and his stock could go up to £10m easy off one good season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 If we can afford him then definitely sign him ( if we are going to play football again) we signed Shilton who was much older I think he can catch a cross and save shots and has rather a lot of experience of winning and we would win the league with him in goal i would assume Huddlestone will be leaving so his wages would easily be covered for Hart if we chose this route a big yes for me ( if we play football) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Definite yes from me as long as wages aren't Ravanelli-esque in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramslaar Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 3 hours ago, therealhantsram said: Avoid. When you are on a downward spiral like he is, there is often no way back. He's been at the very top. To motivate himself for the Championship when he is already a multi millionaire, it would take an exceptional person. I haven't seen any indication that he can begin to move his career in the right direction. The money means nothing.just listen to his interviews of late he is dying to play football.id deffo take if for nothing more than he is sooo much better than we have.GKs dont tend to hit prime time early 30s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 3 hours ago, therealhantsram said: Avoid. When you are on a downward spiral like he is, there is often no way back. He's been at the very top. To motivate himself for the Championship when he is already a multi millionaire, it would take an exceptional person. I haven't seen any indication that he can begin to move his career in the right direction. Rooney went from Man Utd to Everton to the MLS. He’s turning out OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Almost worth doing just to make all our haters cry. Mrs Gibson has had a few weeks of marriage bliss. She hasn't heard "Derby bar steward County" for bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Ramslaar said: The money means nothing.just listen to his interviews of late he is dying to play football.id deffo take if for nothing more than he is sooo much better than we have.GKs dont tend to hit prime time early 30s. OK, let's look at it another way. Pep got rid, Beacuse he wanted a ball playing keeper. Cocu wants a ball playing keeper. Whichever way, Hart is not a good fit for the Rams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R@M Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 30 minutes ago, therealhantsram said: OK, let's look at it another way. Pep got rid, Beacuse he wanted a ball playing keeper. Cocu wants a ball playing keeper. Whichever way, Hart is not a good fit for the Rams. I think 'Pep' wanted the best ball playing top keeper in the world. Hart's distribution was pretty good, just not the best. Not sure we are in the same market as Man City for a ball playing golalkeeper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertRam Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 I'm willing to bet that SG knows him really well, and obviously thinks he can improve us enough to make this a possibility. Get him in ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramslaar Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 12 hours ago, therealhantsram said: OK, let's look at it another way. Pep got rid, Beacuse he wanted a ball playing keeper. Cocu wants a ball playing keeper. Whichever way, Hart is not a good fit for the Rams. Could not disagree more.remember there is different levels of ball playing GK and i dont care what anyone says hart would be a huge upgrade on what we have and without spending 10mil plus i dont think you would get a better keeper.from the mistakes alone this season hart would be worth at least an extra 15-20 points.this also doesnt take into account what a strong commanding GK would do to our defenders.a good GK is worth as much as a top striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 14 hours ago, therealhantsram said: OK, let's look at it another way. Pep got rid, Beacuse he wanted a ball playing keeper. Cocu wants a ball playing keeper. Whichever way, Hart is not a good fit for the Rams. I think Cocu wants a keeper who catches crosses save shots and gives the ball to our players - premiership winner, Many England caps - why wouldn’t we want him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Ramslaar said: Could not disagree more.remember there is different levels of ball playing GK and i dont care what anyone says hart would be a huge upgrade on what we have and without spending 10mil plus i dont think you would get a better keeper.from the mistakes alone this season hart would be worth at least an extra 15-20 points.this also doesnt take into account what a strong commanding GK would do to our defenders.a good GK is worth as much as a top striker. Totally agree apart from winning us an extra 15-20 points - probably 10- 12 over a normal season which is still a huge amount Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Goalkeepers, like all players, will go through dips in confidence. What Hart needs is a prolonged run in a first team and the support of a loyal crowd. If we start ironic cheering when he catches the ball or boots it into touch, he may get flaky again. We have a real chance (assuming the financials work) to bring in not only a good keeper, but also someone who will help command the defence. I hope it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 If it is on a free and the wages wouldn’t be a huge issue except from a policy point of view He’s good, better than we’ve got and 33 is kind of the right age for a goalie somehow. I’d be delighted As a footnote .. isn’t it great exchanging views about footy instead of virus politics ?? lets have Joe ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Hart could probably be about 10% as good as he was at his peak and he will still be better than Hamer or Roos. I don’t even think goalie is a huge problem position but Hart would still be a massive upgrade. You don’t get ‘great’ all round keepers at this level unless you get lucky like Sheff United did with Henderson. The best at the minute is David Raya and he is even more of a fanny when it comes to crosses than either of our two. Anyway, I can’t see us dropping the sort of wages it would take to get him in. I reckon we are in a huge mess financially. If we can sell one of the golden boys with a loan back, we might be okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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