EraniosSocks Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Just wanted to post something that I had been thinking about for a while and wished to have a conversation about. I am sure that Liam Rosenior was bought to Derby County Football club by Philip Cocu as a tactical analysist. Can someone please tell me (If I am right) what is the point of him being at this club. I haven’t seen Derby set up in a tactical way to beat anyone on a field for a long time ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 ? We've never been the same since we lost Kevin Phillips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Carnero said: ? We've never been the same since we lost Kevin Phillips. Thankfully......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Here we go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EraniosSocks Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 I’m not in the Cocu out camp at all, I really want to give the bloke time, I just wished to know what this bloke actually does! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I mean, he’s a first team coach, he’s not an analyst for one. Secondly, there’s no telling really how good or not he is at his job looking in from the outside. We can only really see the end result from the Manager on the pitch, not the work behind the scenes of coaches working on training players, working on the tactics board etc. So there’s no real way of us judging how much of a positive contribution he’s making. Only Cocu will see enough to make that judgement, and he obviously trusted him enough to have him on his team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I'm not generally a fan of coaches who don't appear to have defined roles that you can identify from their job title. I like to know why I should be lambasting them. Like given - he's got the keeper and defence so every goal conceded is another needle in my Shay voodoo doll.....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Very bizarre to me why he, out of all the staff currently at the club, is continuously being questioned like this. Could I point you in the direction of our recruitment team instead? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I was under the impression he was to help the new coaching team understand the division and English football in general. My understanding was it was something Cocu had felt had not helped him in Turkey and was felt might be a helpful addition to the staff. That's my take from the summer, happy to be wrong on that mind. Impossible to say if he's giving good advice, bad advice, being listened to, being ignored, having too much of an impact on decisions (setting up to stop the oppo?) or not enough (not exploiting the oppo's weaknesses?). Impossible to know from the outside. Now, if anyone has some unfounded salacious gossip from twitter or someone who knows something at the club they want to add to the forum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 8 hours ago, Nuwtfly said: Very bizarre to me why he, out of all the staff currently at the club, is continuously being questioned like this. Could I point you in the direction of our recruitment team instead? ? I think because in lemans terms he came in under the guise of “championship specialist” and we’re not very specialist in the championship right now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 A lot of us on here could do that , pity he forgot to tell him how important a forest game is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 9 hours ago, Nuwtfly said: Very bizarre to me why he, out of all the staff currently at the club, is continuously being questioned like this. Could I point you in the direction of our recruitment team instead? ? Whilst I don’t disagree, I think it’s fair to say the coaching staff aren’t getting the most out of any of the players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 11 hours ago, Nuwtfly said: Very bizarre to me why he, out of all the staff currently at the club, is continuously being questioned like this. Could I point you in the direction of our recruitment team instead? ? You could but, hasn't there been numerous posts already questioning the recruitment teams ability and our policy? It seems to be wrong at both ends. We don't seem to be very good at spotting and recruiting decent talent on a consistent basis (recruitment team) and we don't seem to be getting as much as we should from the players we have (coaching staff). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 But he was so good on Sky, that means he’ll be such an amazing coach ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo jones Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Wasn’t expecting to wake up to find Rosenior as the new scapegoat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 4 hours ago, jimbo jones said: Wasn’t expecting to wake up to find Rosenior as the new scapegoat. Oh the scapegoats will come and go until we pick up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 4 hours ago, jimbo jones said: Wasn’t expecting to wake up to find Rosenior as the new scapegoat. Keoghs gone so surely we can't still blame him.........can we???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, mwram1973 said: Keoghs gone so surely we can't still blame him.........can we???? If Keogh wasnt in the back of Lawrence's car we wouldn't be in this mess!!!!!! Tek him to court and sue him I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, The Orange Pimpernel said: Oh the scapegoats will come and go until we pick up. So no-one is to blame then? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambalin Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 7 hours ago, TexasRam said: But he was so good on Sky, that means he’ll be such an amazing coach ? He was coaching at Brighton at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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