Anag Ram Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 So, after yet another weekend of racism in football I ask you fellow Derby fans what you would do if a Rams fan alongside you started racist chanting? What if it was five or more fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo jones Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: So, after yet another weekend of racism in football I ask you fellow Derby fans what you would do if a Rams fan alongside you started racist chanting? What if it was five or more fans? A sustained chant rather than an isolated comment in the heat of the moment, which though I wouldn’t be happy with I could let slide once (not if repeated) would really get my back up. my reaction would depend on the situation, I often go to games with my 7 year old autistic daughter these days, so I’d be wary of being confrontational. If I was with my mates on the other hand words would be had. for a bit of context, I’m white, with family that is black of Jamaican descent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Ramage 4 EVA Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: So, after yet another weekend of racism in football I ask you fellow Derby fans what you would do if a Rams fan alongside you started racist chanting? What if it was five or more fans? I would tighten up the laces on my Ox blood Dr Marten boots (with bouncing soles) and wade in chanting "skinheads don`t bother me" (you need to be well over 50 to remember this chant ?) LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 smack em on bonce & tell em to shurrup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Anag Ram said: So, after yet another weekend of racism in football I ask you fellow Derby fans what you would do if a Rams fan alongside you started racist chanting? What if it was five or more fans? It's happened to me once. I turned around looking irritated and his mates apologized on his behalf and shut him up. If I'd heard another peep he would've been reported to the stewards. If it was five or more... I don't know. It would depend on what type of person it was and what exactly was said. I would likely just report it immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 This happened at Wembley. A family of Derby fans calling Neil Taylor the P word. infront of them sat a mixed group and white and asians. Didnt go down well. Racists got kicked in and kicked out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I wouldn’t let it go and I would challenge their behaviour , any type of discrimination what so ever is wrong and should not form part of either football or society in general Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, jimbobram said: This happened at Wembley. A family of Derby fans calling Neil Taylor the P word. infront of them sat a mixed group and white and asians. Didnt go down well. Racists got kicked in and kicked out Doesn’t matter who is in front of them, it’s wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 19 minutes ago, jimbobram said: This happened at Wembley. A family of Derby fans calling Neil Taylor the P word. infront of them sat a mixed group and white and asians. Didnt go down well. Racists got kicked in and kicked out How do people like that even have time to look up these things? I had no idea Taylor is half Indian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Woodley Ram said: Doesn’t matter who is in front of them, it’s wrong correct. however, just to set more of the scene. No one else said a word apart from the people in front of the racist family. completly ruined the atmosphere for about 30-40 people. It was a quiet stage of the match and was clearly heard because a few heads turned. I may or may not have been in front of the family of racists before you ask if I said or did anything ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDerby Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I heard a racing comment in the Derby end at Barnsley away this year and I was stood close to a black guy who heard the the guy that shouted it and moved seats at half time. I was absolutely disgusted. The guy that shouted it was blind drunk and was shouting vile comments all game, something your kids should never ever hear, comments about dead grandmas, did anyone else hear this guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Intervened once in sustained racist abuse against some Asians ended up getting attacked and put through a very unpleasant court case as a witness. Treated like a dog by the police and CPS etc. Their attitude was that I should have turned a blind eye. Think carefully before you get in any confrontation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, Van Cone De Head said: Intervened once in sustained racist abuse against some Asians ended up getting attacked and put through a very unpleasant court case as a witness. Treated like a dog by the police and CPS etc. Their attitude was that I should have turned a blind eye. Think carefully before you get in any confrontation. Well done though. Hopefully these days treatment of witnesses should be better. You dont always have to confront them though, tell the stewards discreetly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Well I’d probably call them exactly what they are- a bunch of bamfords. Then, tempting as it is to start a fight with the bar stewards, that ain’t gonna resolve anything and would just result in getting banned yourself. So have to find some way to tell the stewards I guess and get them booted out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 43 minutes ago, jimbobram said: correct. however, just to set more of the scene. No one else said a word apart from the people in front of the racist family. completly ruined the atmosphere for about 30-40 people. It was a quiet stage of the match and was clearly heard because a few heads turned. I may or may not have been in front of the family of racists before you ask if I said or did anything ? I wonder, in this age of technology, whether an app could alert the club and any related security staff of racist behaviour near you, and where you are in the crowd? This would make alerting stewards quite so obvious and reduce the chance of retribution. The problem won't go away until the punishment is a custodial sentence with rehabilitation and learning. We live in a bit of a culture of hatred at the moment. Football is just a hiding place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 18 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: I wonder, in this age of technology, whether an app could alert the club and any related security staff of racist behaviour near you, and where you are in the crowd? This would make alerting stewards quite so obvious and reduce the chance of retribution. The problem won't go away until the punishment is a custodial sentence with rehabilitation and learning. We live in a bit of a culture of hatred at the moment. Football is just a hiding place. Can't get any signal in the ground though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 33 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Well I’d probably call them exactly what they are- a bunch of bamfords. Then, tempting as it is to start a fight with the bar stewards, that ain’t gonna resolve anything and would just result in getting banned yourself. So have to find some way to tell the stewards I guess and get them booted out. It may also result in you getting your head kicked in. This is part of the problem. It can be dangerous to speak up and so it's safer personally to say nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSD Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Film the culprit on my phone and send it to the authorities. The only time I'd get my phone out at a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 31 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: I wonder, in this age of technology, whether an app could alert the club and any related security staff of racist behaviour near you, and where you are in the crowd? This would make alerting stewards quite so obvious and reduce the chance of retribution. The problem won't go away until the punishment is a custodial sentence with rehabilitation and learning. We live in a bit of a culture of hatred at the moment. Football is just a hiding place. You can text problems during the match to a club number. I couldn’t find it on the site though but it’s definitely on the back of match tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, ThePrisoner said: You can text problems during the match to a club number. I couldn’t find it on the site though but it’s definitely on the back of match tickets. On the concourse walls too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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