Rev Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, FindernRam said: I think the issue for me is calling Scotland a country. It is not, a country has its own sovereign government. Scotland has not had that for 300 years It is a region of the UK and has no more right to be independent than say, Cornwall, or Yorkshire. Cornwall, Yorkshire, Scotland. Finally a qualifying group they might win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteHorseRam Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 53 minutes ago, FindernRam said: I think the issue for me is calling Scotland a country. It is not, a country has its own sovereign government. Scotland has not had that for 300 years It is a region of the UK and has no more right to be independent than say, Cornwall, or Yorkshire. I understand where you are coming from. But as a social experiment … tell you what … wear a body cam and go and find a back street pub in East Kilbride, there are some with opaque windows. Pop in, state the above view, and then gather their feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 12 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: You do realise that none of us are actually bothered about the labels thrown at us. We just like to point out the blatant hypocrisy. Farage is a racist Johnson is a racist Tommy Robinson is a racist Ok, let's discuss Diane Abbots racist comments... Oh no they've been taken out of context blah blah blah. Its laughable. I like the Johnson letterbox one the best. Why is context not being used there? He was defending peoples right to wear them. But oh no, this was a racist comment designed to cause division. Keep fighting the good fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Uptherams Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 I can't believe the lineup of candidates for next Labour leader. Boris will be PM for 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Uptherams said: I can't believe the lineup of candidates for next Labour leader. Boris will be PM for 10 years. Perfect, time for a couple of major wars in that time so he make his Churchill fantasy come true. If we win both, he might even become world king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, Curtains said: Daily Mail doesn't know if it's coming or going these days what with all these working class Northerners suddenly becoming Tory. They'll be calling for strikes soon so workers get paid a fair wage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteHorseRam Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, Uptherams said: I can't believe the lineup of candidates for next Labour leader. Boris will be PM for as long as he likes. FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 minute ago, ariotofmyown said: Daily Mail doesn't know if it's coming or going these days what with all these working class Northerners suddenly becoming Tory. They'll be calling for strikes soon so workers get paid a fair wage. That was in 2015. A leopard never changes it’s spots I see Thornberry is now suing a fellow former Labour MP now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: Perfect, time for a couple of major wars in that time so he make his Churchill fantasy come true. If we win both, he might even become world king. Yeah, he's just like Trump. And nothing like Labour. So your war argument is..... Oh, hang on, you're wrong again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Curtains said: That was in 2015. A leopard never changes it’s spots I see Thornberry is now suing a fellow former Labour MP now Apologies, you are normally so on the pulse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Norman said: Yeah, he's just like Trump. And nothing like Labour. So your war argument is..... Oh, hang on, you're wrong again. Don't blame me when you are been sent to central Europe to fight Communists/Fascists/Antifa/Muslims etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: Apologies, you are normally so on the pulse! My blood pressure ain’t good though lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 14 hours ago, ossieram said: Fried or boiled? Raw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 hour ago, ariotofmyown said: Keep fighting the good fight. The sort of typical response that I expected. I'll get you a broom for Xmas so you can keep on sweeping important issues under the carpet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: The sort of typical response that I expected. I'll get you a broom for Xmas so you can keep on sweeping important issues under the carpet. Diana Abbot been a 'racist' is not important. Doubt any white person has ever suffered slightly from the stupid comments she made. Johnson using Letterboxes, Watermelon Smiles and Bum Boys is important. It gives idiots the green light to use such words to mock Johnson targets. He would be severely disciplined for using such language in the workplace. If you don't agree, get a few colleagues to stand around a black person at work and get them all to laugh at the "watermelon smile". Or point at a muslim customer and tell her she looks like a letterbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramesses Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 15 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: I like the Johnson letterbox one the best. Why is context not being used there? He was defending peoples right to wear them. But oh no, this was a racist comment designed to cause division. I’ve just read that article for the first time. Yes, it was clear that he didn’t support an ‘outright ban’ on something ‘only a tiny, tiny minority of women’ wear. However it was also clear that he was deliberately and repetitively using negative (and mocking) language and comparisons. The main thrust of the article was to criticize and mock and I find it hard to believe that anyone reading that article would come away thinking that Johnson’s main focus was ‘defending people’s right to wear them’… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 We're on dangerous ground talking about a certain religious head garment, these posts will probably get removed. I find it ironic however that whilst Johnson clumsily argued for the rights of women to wear it, if the Tories hadn't won a majority in the election Brexit would be all but dead and we would be remaining in the EU and therefore at somepoint in the future been forced to ban it anyway. Guy Verhofstadt wants closer EU unity and countries to forgo their various opt-outs, with numerous countries in the EU already banning the garment we would have inevitably followed suit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_dress_in_Europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 38 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: Don't blame me when you are been sent to central Europe to fight Communists/Fascists/Antifa/Muslims etc Think it will be the EU army doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 19 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: Diana Abbot been a 'racist' is not important. Doubt any white person has ever suffered slightly from the stupid comments she made. Yes it is. She is a high profile member of Parliament that should be trying to help us all integrate. Not using divisive, degrading language. As ever with her, she really doesn't help herself or the people she is trying to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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