Day Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 I love the play offs. Unless we finish 3rd and lose, then it should be top 3 that goes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 51 minutes ago, angieram said: Wouldn't that also be based on momentum though as high Championship teams likely to have this over struggling Prem ones? All play off systems are imperfect. Strongly wanted top 3 to go up when we were there, now I think top 6 is ok! We all know the rules at the beginning of the season, it's up to each team to take advantage of them. Still think top 3 is fairest as it is a league rather than a cup but I won't complain if we go up that way. You could have a play off between 3rd vs 5th and 4th vs 6th, to see who then plays against the prem clubs. That keeps it exciting for the same amount of teams in the champ. Then imagine if you did the same in the prem, anyone in the bottom 6 could potentially go down. You’d have some pretty big clubs with pretty squeaky sphincters each year. Terribly exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, TigerTedd said: You could have a play off between 3rd vs 5th and 4th vs 6th, to see who then plays against the prem clubs. That keeps it exciting for the same amount of teams in the champ. Then imagine if you did the same in the prem, anyone in the bottom 6 could potentially go down. You’d have some pretty big clubs with pretty squeaky sphincters each year. Terribly exciting. I feel like a one game Stay-in-the-prem opportunity would see a struggling prem team beat an aspiring Champ team 9/10 times. When they get relegated, generally, they lose all of their quality players - but on paper a poor prem team is superior by quite a gap to the best Champ teams - and a one game opportunity to survive, you'd imagine, they'd be able to turn up for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfb Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 17 hours ago, oldtimeram said: As we are, if we think we will get in the play offs Saturday 30th March Derby County 15:00 Rotherham United April 2019 Saturday 6th April Brentford 15:00 Derby County Tuesday 9th April Blackburn Rovers 19:45 Derby County Saturday 13th April Derby County 15:00 Bolton Wanderers Friday 19th April Birmingham City 15:00 Derby County Monday 22nd April Derby County 15:00 Queens Park Rangers Saturday 27th April Bristol City 15:00 Derby County May 2019 Wednesday 1st May Swansea City 19:45 Derby County Sunday 5th May Derby County 12:30 West Bromwich Albion Looking at the other teams around us they all have some very tough games, and will all drop points, yes i know there are no 'easy' games, but for us, it could all come down to those last 3 games... which are on paper our toughest of the run in... So it could get exciting, which most of us would have settled for at the start of this season, if we fail we fail, but its been a decent 1st season for a 'rookie' manager, under what most could deem difficult circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 These remaining games are the tasty ones. Sheff Utd v Bristol City Boro v Norwich Boro v Bristol City Preston v Sheff Utd Bristol City v West Brom Preston v Leeds Villa v Bristol City West Brom v Preston Bristol City v Derby Leeds v Villa Villa v Norwich Derby v West Brom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Roots Manuva said: agreed, the playoffs in its current form feels like it's all based on momentum. I'd like to see them adopt an idea similar to what they have in the Eredivisie in the Netherlands, something like... PREMIER LEAGUE: 16th ------------------ 17th (Promotion/Relegation playoff) 18th (Promotion/Relegation playoff) _________________ 19th (Relegation) 20th (Relegation) CHAMPIONSHIP: 1st (Promotion) 2nd (Promotion) _________________ 3rd (Promotion/Relegation playoff) 4th (Promotion/Relegation playoff) give the championship sides a direct shot at the struggling prem teams? or at least a format similar to this?admittedly it does leave more teams in the championship playing for less by shrinking the number of playoff spots...personally just don't like the way it works now. I'm pretty certain we did something very similar over here, when Play-Off's were first introduced? There was definitely a higher division team at each level, playing against those from the division below, in the hope of "staying where they were". ...If memory serves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 59 minutes ago, SaintRam said: I feel like a one game Stay-in-the-prem opportunity would see a struggling prem team beat an aspiring Champ team 9/10 times. I dunno you know - right now it'd be: Leeds, West Brom, Boro & Villa Against... Brighton, Southampton, Burnley & Cardiff. 9/10 wins for the prem teams? I wouldn't put any money on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Let’s just make it really fun - top six all promoted bottom six of premiership all relegated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Just now, Sparkle said: Let’s just make it really fun - top six all promoted bottom six of premiership all relegated While are at it and to make the team and supporters interested in every moment of every game 2 points for a win - 1 point for winning the first half - 1 point for winning the second half and 1 point for drawing the game maximum 4 points to be won but a draw could net either 1 or 2 points and a loss could still net 1 point. basically it rewards winning and attacking probably and if you have been stuffed like us at Aston Villa by half time you a something in the second half to play for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 ... and whilst we're at it, an extra point (each game) for any team whose first initial matches that of any markings on the pitch! ... Ooh... "D"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 4 hours ago, SouthStandDan said: The play offs system is rubbish in its current format. It's not fair a 3rd place team could have 80+ points and 6th barely touching 70 points are on the same playing field. 3rd place should automatically make it to Wembley. 5th faces 6th place. The winner plays 4th place. The winner of that game then goes to Wembley for the final promotion spot. This in itself is also flawed. Whilst I like the point that you are allowing the 3rd place team an automatic into the play-off final. They might just be a team who might be in the middle of a bad run and dropped from 1st to 3rd. They could end up playing that team that have gone on a good run and just scraped into the play-offs. Ergo an inform 6th place playing and under confident 3rd place. A 3rd place that over a season has got where they are over the whole season and not on the back of a late run. As it has been said, no play off is perfect. If we have to have one I would prefer 3rd from bottom of the Prem playing 3rd from top of the championship in a one off Wembley final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 1 minute ago, BathRam72 said: This in itself is also flawed. Whilst I like the point that you are allowing the 3rd place team an automatic into the play-off final. They might just be a team who might be in the middle of a bad run and dropped from 1st to 3rd. They could end up playing that team that have gone on a good run and just scraped into the play-offs. Ergo an inform 6th place playing and under confident 3rd place. A 3rd place that over a season has got where they are over the whole season and not on the back of a late run. As it has been said, no play off is perfect. If we have to have one I would prefer 3rd from bottom of the Prem playing 3rd from top of the championship in a one off Wembley final. @SouthStandDanidea works for me because it does the third placed team an advantage given the 6th team would have to play 4 times before they met in the final. What's missing at the moment imo is a valued advantage for the 3rd team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Just now, Spanish said: @SouthStandDanidea works for me because it does the third placed team an advantage given the 6th team would have to play 4 times before they met in the final. What's missing at the moment imo is a valued advantage for the 3rd team I agree in principle but still believe that only that team should have the chance of going up based on merit. A one off with the Prem team 3rd from bottom is just my choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paese Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Sparkle said: Let’s just make it really fun - top six all promoted bottom six of premiership all relegated Make it seven teams, with a play off between teams 7th - 10th in Championship, a round robin, all at neutral second division grounds around Europe throughout the summer, culminating in a final at Wembley 24 hours before the start of the next season, with both teams only allowed to use players that started the first game of the season (if they have left the club then you start without them). Then, if they stay out of the bottom 7 in the Premier League the following year, they know they deserve to be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1of4 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 7 hours ago, BathRam72 said: This in itself is also flawed. Whilst I like the point that you are allowing the 3rd place team an automatic into the play-off final. They might just be a team who might be in the middle of a bad run and dropped from 1st to 3rd. They could end up playing that team that have gone on a good run and just scraped into the play-offs. Ergo an inform 6th place playing and under confident 3rd place. A 3rd place that over a season has got where they are over the whole season and not on the back of a late run. As it has been said, no play off is perfect. If we have to have one I would prefer 3rd from bottom of the Prem playing 3rd from top of the championship in a one off Wembley final. Hasn't this method of play-off already been tried back in the nineties? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 1 hour ago, 1of4 said: Hasn't this method of play-off already been tried back in the nineties? Yes, when they were reducing the number of teams in the top div from 22 to 20 I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 2 hours ago, 1of4 said: Hasn't this method of play-off already been tried back in the nineties? back to the eighties really. Back then it was the Chelsea/ Charlton/ Boro love triangle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 10 hours ago, 1of4 said: Hasn't this method of play-off already been tried back in the nineties? I don't think it was a one v one play-off. I might be wrong but I thought more teams were involved. Which ever I still like the one off chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric the half a ram Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Haven't we got this round the wrong way? How about 1st to 3rd in the championship go up, but 15th to 18th in the premier league play off as we do now, 3 stay in the premier league, one drops down to the championship after a wembley final? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 29 minutes ago, Eric the half a ram said: Haven't we got this round the wrong way? How about 1st to 3rd in the championship go up, but 15th to 18th in the premier league play off as we do now, 3 stay in the premier league, one drops down to the championship after a wembley final? Not much of an incentive to win the semi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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