Warren Hobhead Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 No point contemplating it as I fully expect a fair amount of new signings and rightfully so. Painfully short of quality out wide both defensively and going forward. Far too many central midfielders and chuff knows which of them are going to even be here. Real lack of mobility in there too. And what’s the future look like up front? Does Martin get another chance? Is Vydra staying? Ask again in a months time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 minute ago, curtains said: I do think Lowe injury free is quality and is developing and his loan spell at Shrewsbury should stand him in good stead . I put him in my team from current players. He's probably the only youngster who'd get near my current best 11, but I think due to his injuries and him not being able to really make the Shrewsbury left back spot his, I'd still stick with Forsyth. Left back is definitely one of the first positions I want Frank to try and improve on though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Carson Wisdom Keogh Davies fozzy Huddlestone Ledley lawrence Bryson Weimann Vydra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, Cam the Ram said: He's probably the only youngster who'd get near my current best 11, but I think due to his injuries and him not being able to really make the Shrewsbury left back spot his, I'd still stick with Forsyth. Left back is definitely one of the first positions I want Frank to try and improve on though 5 at the back seemed to work to an extent at the end of last season and an injury free Lowe could be an asset in there. Depends which way Frank and Jody go and there is loads of variables to consider. Training ground pre season will be vital as will who is still here and who has left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 50 minutes ago, curtains said: My opinion on Rowett is correct. He is a good manager. Which sport though?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth's left foot Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Carson Keogh Davies Pearce Wisdom Bryson Huddlestone Lawrence Lowe Vydra Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Not sure how youngsters are being put into our "current" best starting XI, they have either impressed in the U23s or out on loan at lower league clubs, not one has shown the ability to perform at Championship level as of 8th June 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Carson Wisdom Keogh Davies Forsyth Lawrence Huddlestone Ledley Anya Jerome Vydra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 13 minutes ago, David said: Not sure how youngsters are being put into our "current" best starting XI, they have either impressed in the U23s or out on loan at lower league clubs, not one has shown the ability to perform at Championship level as of 8th June 2018. Just our opinion. I think they'll make the step up well, and I think that they show more natural ability than our current first teamers in their position. If I believe both those things then its reasonable they're in my current best XI. If people doubt either of those things, they shouldn't be in theirs. Simple as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 We should have a thread “what will be our best starting 11 come Jan 1st 2019” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-a-lama fa fa fa Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 I dont know why but when i think about our best 11 i start getting depressed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Doesn’t the question depend on what formation and how we play it? - it tends to affect things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 hour ago, David said: Not sure how youngsters are being put into our "current" best starting XI, they have either impressed in the U23s or out on loan at lower league clubs, not one has shown the ability to perform at Championship level as of 8th June 2018. It’s not about the level they play at though, it’s how good they are… Dele Alli didn’t go from ‘League One standard’ to ‘England standard’ in the six months between his last appearance for The Franchise and his first cap, he was always that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, cannable said: It’s not about the level they play at though, it’s how good they are… Dele Alli didn’t go from ‘League One standard’ to ‘England standard’ in the six months between his last appearance for The Franchise and his first cap, he was always that good. But we don't know how good they are. Currently we are a Championship team, currently the youngsters haven't shown themselves capable of playing at this level. I'm not saying that in 6 months Bogle, Thomas, Elsnik may show they are good enough, but right now we have nothing to go on but hope to suggest they are. Hughes and Hendrick as good as they were didn't walk into the team one day and nail their place in the starting 11. Takes time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 9 minutes ago, David said: But we don't know how good they are. Currently we are a Championship team, currently the youngsters haven't shown themselves capable of playing at this level. I'm not saying that in 6 months Bogle, Thomas, Elsnik may show they are good enough, but right now we have nothing to go on but hope to suggest they are. Hughes and Hendrick as good as they were didn't walk into the team one day and nail their place in the starting 11. Takes time. Hughes was pretty much undroppable after his first start, to this day I still can’t believe Bryson was MOTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We'll be back in 81 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Carson Wisdom Davies Bogle Thorne Anya Bryson Elsnik Lawrence Jerome Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, cannable said: Hughes was pretty much undroppable after his first start, to this day I still can’t believe Bryson was MOTM After is minute debut v Peterborough he had to wait 5 months before being given another chance off the bench, he was also being shoved out left by Clough. If you look back at how bad that team was and Hughes being the best talent to come out of the academy he still took him time to break in. Few years later we have Bogle, Elsnik, Guy, Thomas who are all claimed to be in our best "current" XI when we have just finished 6th and 45 minutes away from the play off final at Wembley. Max Lowe is possibly the exception having played in 9 games, he has shown to be capable at this level but fragile, I still don't see him walking into the team next season. We have always looked at our own a little starry eyed when in reality (Thanks Gary), very few actually make the grade, to say we will see 5 make it next season, sorry I just don't see it. We're doing what the English media do with the national team, hype them up, when they need to be given time to adapt to first team Championship football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, David said: After is minute debut v Peterborough he had to wait 5 months before being given another chance off the bench, he was also being shoved out left by Clough. If you look back at how bad that team was and Hughes being the best talent to come out of the academy he still took him time to break in. Few years later we have Bogle, Elsnik, Guy, Thomas who are all claimed to be in our best "current" XI when we have just finished 6th and 45 minutes away from the play off final at Wembley. Max Lowe is possibly the exception having played in 9 games, he has shown to be capable at this level but fragile, I still don't see him walking into the team next season. We have always looked at our own a little starry eyed when in reality (Thanks Gary), very few actually make the grade, to say we will see 5 make it next season, sorry I just don't see it. We're doing what the English media do with the national team, hype them up, when they need to be given time to adapt to first team Championship football. Its just some opinions of folk who spend a lot of time watching the U23s man - its not a science. I mean sure it would be more reasonable for everyone's named XI to be the XI that started the play-off games but I genuinely think Bogle and Elsnik are better than that. I don't need evidence to have that opinion. I might be wrong! Probably am, but its still the opinion I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 3 hours ago, StarterForTen said: Its a slow Friday at work... So started to think about what our best starting XI is (and its formation) given our currently contracted players - no additions, no sales. I'm going with the graphically-challenging-but-soon-to-be fashionable 3-1-4-1-1 formation.... GK: Carson Back Three (right to left): Wisdom - Huddlestone - Davies Holding Midfielder: Ledley Midfielders: (right to left): Lawrence - Thorne - Johnson - Weimann Attacking Midfielder: Vydra Striker: Jerome I told you it was a quiet morning! That isn't the worst formation I have ever seen but it is in the top one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Actually I’ll have Olson over Fozzy! Might he unpopular but I think he’s the better player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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