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56 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

Yes but that's letting facts get in the way of a preconceived idea that Philips is a rubbish coach.

It's an interesting discussion, the correlation of match statistics to the perceived ability/failings of coaching staff.

Personally, I don't think anyone has a leg to stand on, either side of the fence. No-one knows how good he is, or how bad he is. Rowett enjoyed working with him, clearly, but that doesn't tell us a great deal.

Statistics from last season certainly support our finishing, although not so much our chance creation. Surely his job isn't only the motion of putting the ball in the back of the net? There were only like...6 first team coaches, something like that. If all of them had jobs that specific we'd need about 20 of them.

But as has been said, 4th highest goalscorers, must be doing something right. On the flip side, he wasn't only with us last season. 

 

IMO, regardless of whether or not the new coach is better or worse than KP - there will no evidence of either. So it's a bit irrelevant to try and diminish his role at this juncture - he was just a coach, you never really feel the effects of a coach leaving.

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Phillips face didn’t fit for some, simple as that. No logic, no real reasoning for questioning his coaching ability, just a face that’s been around a while and got bored of looking at. 

It’s why ex Derby players are always put forward as coach suggestions, all about the face. Igor manager with Poom, Eranio and Baiano as coaches, Yates as physio and Wanchope kit man. 

We could have just lost a damn fine coach in Phillips, we’ll never know. 

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14 minutes ago, David said:

Phillips face didn’t fit for some, simple as that. No logic, no real reasoning for questioning his coaching ability, just a face that’s been around a while and got bored of looking at. 

It’s why ex Derby players are always put forward as coach suggestions, all about the face. Igor manager with Poom, Eranio and Baiano as coaches, Yates as physio and Wanchope kit man. 

We could have just lost a damn fine coach in Phillips, we’ll never know. 

Or maybe Leicester had him sussed beforehand .... just average 

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3 minutes ago, irobinson said:

Or maybe Leicester had him sussed beforehand .... just average 

Possible, you could argue the same about Jody Morris now though.

Or they didn’t want to stand in his way with the job promotion on offer at Derby. 

 

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19 minutes ago, David said:

Phillips face didn’t fit for some, simple as that. No logic, no real reasoning for questioning his coaching ability, just a face that’s been around a while and got bored of looking at. 

It’s why ex Derby players are always put forward as coach suggestions, all about the face. Igor manager with Poom, Eranio and Baiano as coaches, Yates as physio and Wanchope kit man. 

We could have just lost a damn fine coach in Phillips, we’ll never know. 

You are correct we will never know but it is a similar trend with a lot of the home grown players - been here too long - get someone different - never performed highly enough in the scraps of opportunity afforded to them which is usually when out of position - get rid - two examples mason Bennett and Jamie Hanson 

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2 hours ago, David said:

Possible, you could argue the same about Jody Morris now though.

Or they didn’t want to stand in his way with the job promotion on offer at Derby. 

 

oh well - I prefer a new slate to be honest. And Jody has come from arguably the best kids ranch in the country

 

 

 

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Not sure why it's taken this long for Rowett to bring his hangers on with him, maybe we were trying to get more compo. Anyway glad it's over and now we can start with a new slate... Maybe one or two questions over what role if any for summer field? 

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37 minutes ago, PistoldPete2 said:

Not sure why it's taken this long for Rowett to bring his hangers on with him, maybe we were trying to get more compo. Anyway glad it's over and now we can start with a new slate... Maybe one or two questions over what role if any for summer field? 

He left. The club announced it. He was just the only one to not join Stoke. 

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38 minutes ago, PistoldPete2 said:

Not sure why it's taken this long for Rowett to bring his hangers on with him, maybe we were trying to get more compo. Anyway glad it's over and now we can start with a new slate... Maybe one or two questions over what role if any for summer field? 

Thought Summerfield had been released?

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