Gender pay, is this the reason for our new year slip?

[ilkleyram]

According to the BBC website at Derby County FC the average man is paid 5% less than the average woman. One of the few clubs where this is so.

 

 

[Smyth_18]

I don't even know where to begin with trying to understand this

[North East Ram]

It's the blummin Ramettes. Apparently their wages are £1m + bonuses per appearance.

 

 

[Angry Ram]

Bunch of tarts, that explains a lot.

[King Kevin]

Just now, Angry Ram said:

Bunch of tarts, that explains a lot.

Beat me to it ,explains why it's like Fred Karno's 

[jagerbob]

Im guessing its because aside from cleaners we have lots of men in lower paid jobs at DCFC and of the female jobs, the majority are heads of departments etc. - Obviously this is a bit of a generalisation but might explain that few percent swing

[RadioactiveWaste]

7 minutes ago, jagerbob said:

Im guessing its because aside from cleaners we have lots of men in lower paid jobs at DCFC and of the female jobs, the majority are heads of departments etc. - Obviously this is a bit of a generalisation but might explain that few percent swing

And presumably the definitions of who are employees and who are contractors helps, i.e. the 1st team squad etc.

[Millenniumram]

**** me if the men’s wage bill is too high how big is the women’s?!

[PistoldPete2]

1 hour ago, ilkleyram said:

According to the BBC website at Derby County FC the average man is paid 5% less than the average woman. One of the few clubs where this is so.

 

 

I think this is comparing people in the same job? We dont have any females in our first team so nothing to compare with? 

[Van der MoodHoover]

2 minutes ago, PistoldPete2 said:

I think this is comparing people in the same job? We dont have any females in our first team so nothing to compare with? 

When you watch them flapping around trying to deal with attacks they seem like a load of old women.

[ilkleyram]

1 minute ago, PistoldPete2 said:

I think this is comparing people in the same job? We dont have any females in our first team so nothing to compare with? 

As I understand it PP, the intention of the average figure (as opposed to the median figure) in the gender pay returns was meant to be the total male/female wage bill divided by the total number of male or female employees, to give an average pay figure per gender for every company, which could be compared. 

I wonder if the players are not contractually employed by The Derby County FC but by another company within the group, and that therefore they're not included as part of this return

[Coneheadjohn]

The first team squad are all girls?

[GenBr]

1 hour ago, PistoldPete2 said:

I think this is comparing people in the same job? We dont have any females in our first team so nothing to compare with? 

We do have a ladies team though. They do the same job - playing football. They shouldn't be paid the same obviously since they are nowhere near is commercially valuable to the business at this point.

The average wage figure is totally meaningless. Even comparing people in the same jobs is meaningless - they would have to have the same experience, length of service, marketability (for players), etc for it to be even remotely fair comparison.

1 hour ago, jagerbob said:

Im guessing its because aside from cleaners we have lots of men in lower paid jobs at DCFC and of the female jobs, the majority are heads of departments etc. - Obviously this is a bit of a generalisation but might explain that few percent swing

Or we only employ one woman who gets paid £10,000,000 per year. No-one else to bring the average down then.

[Norman]

It's ******* Tom Ince's mum dragging the average up!

[ketteringram]

It's Ewie! 

[King Kevin]

24 minutes ago, Norman said:

It's ******* Tom Ince's mum dragging the average up!

Funny ,very funny.

[Zag zig]

1 hour ago, jagerbob said:

Im guessing its because aside from cleaners we have lots of men in lower paid jobs at DCFC and of the female jobs, the majority are heads of departments etc. - Obviously this is a bit of a generalisation but might explain that few percent swing

Heard someone on the radio about the gender pay gap in companies, apparently women don’t do so bad at Man City either; the point was made it obviously excludes playing staff.

[ossieram]

That would explain why we have some many big girls blouses about the place.

[europia]

Gender reassignment more like.

[angieram]

2 hours ago, Norman said:

It's ******* Tom Ince's mum dragging the average up!

Brilliant!