Rab a dab doo Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 An 'atmosphere' can be created either by the supporters or what's happening on the pitch. It's two way street one trigger's the other and when both are in unison then that's when the team is flying and noise level's fever pitch. For this to happen both players and fan's must try to trigger each other to up the level of passion and noise. When a team has these two ingredients right then nothing can stop them moving forward. This what we need now more than ever to give us that one last momentous push to get us over the line. So come on Derby show this division what were really made of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Mexican Wave, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsmini Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 hour ago, England Ram said: There is a section in the top tier and a few of us in the lower tier who try to get things going in the East stand. Some of the problem is from other fans who moan if you stand even to get a better view from those around you never mind when chanting. Other problems are being targeted by stewards or police. Because it is easier to spot the odd one or two on our side, we have no end of problems with stewards, cctv man or police telling us to sit, watch the game, and not look at the away fans. This really does affect a lot of people into just sitting quietly until there are more people around them getting involved so they join in. Sad really. My mate was in there for the Norwich game. Right next to the away fans. He said it felt very toxic with the stewards constantly telling him to sit down and not doing anything about the away fans standing and being abusive etc. Its good that you keep on trying to get things going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, Wolfie said: Mexican Wave, anyone? I think this is a great idea,why not. Builds a great atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, Wolfie said: Mexican Wave, anyone? No ,no thrice no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimbeard Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 52 minutes ago, Wolfie said: Mexican Wave, anyone? 43 minutes ago, coneheadjohn said: I think this is a great idea,why not. Builds a great atmosphere. 42 minutes ago, King Kevin said: No ,no thrice no. And there we have it in a nutshell. People will shout, sing and stamp their feet as and when the mood takes them, you can't force people to join in. Some are just miserable sods that want to be left alone, others are only happy when indulging in a spot of community singing, most of us are probably somewhere in between. Each to their own. Stop fretting about how other people choose to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 2 hours ago, King Kevin said: No ,no thrice no. Last time I was involved in one was at Maine Road in 198?? watching Queen and it was great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagerbob Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, coneheadjohn said: Last time I was involved in one was at Maine Road in 198?? watching Queen and it was great. i take it you didnt go during the 2007 season then. mexican waves were a plenty in a season where frankly the fans and the players seemed to had taken a year off from football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 39 minutes ago, jagerbob said: i take it you didnt go during the 2007 season then. mexican waves were a plenty in a season where frankly the fans and the players seemed to had taken a year off from football. I just can’t remember mate,which I know is bad at 49. I can remember Van Der Laan’s back post header v Crystal Palace and then there’s a lot of blanks...worrying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDCFC75 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Please no Mexican wave guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, JDCFC75 said: Please no Mexican wave guys. Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoetheRam Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Let us be honest. The atmosphere at 99% of games in this country is rubbish. Only Leeds have anything resembling a good home and away support in this division and there's maybe only about 10 or so teams on this fair Isle that have one worth writing about. Ours is not one of them so I'll write about something else instead. Pride Park has had 5 or 6 couldron-like atmospheres in 20 years. Southampton '06, Brighton '14 (more of an ultimate party atmosphere to be accurate), Middlesbrough '00, Forest '12, Forest '08. Away from home we've probably been worth YouTubing maybe 20 times in the same period. This would suggest we're just not very expressive of our passion as a fanbase. This is a Derbyshire/Midlands trait. Not as cocky or full of ourselves as Yorkshiremen or Lancastrians, not as brash or spiky as Cockneys, not as weird as Pomponians. We instead have an inner, unshowy passion. A fine trait, but not one that is perhaps best when it comes to making a racket at the football. I also think most people don't know what a good atmosphere is, which has led to a stifling of potential good by manufactured, plastic garbage. Better to have a generic shop-bought, Instagram approved, PG rated approximation of an identity than no identity. Constant droning singing that just becomes background noise to accompany a drum is not an atmosphere. Waving a flag is, on its own, not creating an atmosphere. Bouncing for the sake of bouncing is not an atmosphere. It has to be a part of something bigger. The best atmosphere is a whole melting pot of sights and sounds and smells. Sometimes the chants takes their lead from the on field action, sometimes they stand at loggerheads to the on field action and sometimes, are totally seperate from the field of play and constitute actual terrace banter, humour and camaraderie, rather than the bastardised social media variant we have now. The two feed off each other, their tempos matching one another. Wall to wall noise is all well and good, but sometimes you need that lull so that when a thumping tackle goes in and the place erupts with a collective "come on, get in there", the effect is heightened. Light and shade. Sweet and sour. Morecambe and Wise. Constant wooaaahoooh-ing just leads the crowd to become anaesthetised to the action and the experience loses its edge. Hairs on the back of the neck stuff is a fleeting moment, only acheivable when the occasion overawes you, takes you by surprise. The bad news, is that most of what makes a good atmosphere is an organic, intangible, ineffable cosmic alignment of ale, folk idols, small "s" socialism and thousands of passionate fans sharing the same experience, feeling the same thing at the same moment. This does not come as part of the purchase of a smoke bomb, or a mass-produced banner. This cannot be shown by holding up a placard when you are told to by a man with a microphone. This can only be done through a shared identity, shared history, shared culture and a desire to contribute and add to that, and be part of the fabric of the event rather than be content with being an innocent bystander, an onlooker, a cellphone cameraman. Atmosphere cannot be faked. It has to come from a feeling within you, a need to urge your side on, a need to call the referee bad words, a need to feel involved in the action, to feel connected with your players, representing your town... you either have it or you don't. Sorry, I forgot what the question was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Derby Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Who is this Dale Cervesa guy and does he live in Derby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Palace fans did a good job at consciously improving their atmosphere, it can be done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagerbob Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, philmycock said: Palace fans did a good job at consciously improving their atmosphere, it can be done they are in the same stadium they have been in since terraces were there. That is a huge reason. I made a post on this recently.... any ground with above average atmosphere now is not a new stadium. Palace, watford, Liverpool, Everton. Any time a team moves to a new stadium atmosphere is worse... west ham being the latest example, but there are scores and scores of other examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, jagerbob said: they are in the same stadium they have been in since terraces were there. That is a huge reason. I made a post on this recently.... any ground with above average atmosphere now is not a new stadium. Palace, watford, Liverpool, Everton. Any time a team moves to a new stadium atmosphere is worse... west ham being the latest example, but there are scores and scores of other examples. Huddersfield? Sounds good when I've seen them on MOTD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: Huddersfield? Sounds good when I've seen them on MOTD They've created a singing section though . Next to the away fans . Was ok when I went last year! We were at the other end though next too"Chico" . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagerbob Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: Huddersfield? Sounds good when I've seen them on MOTD first season in the PL, highest league in their history no doubt... Even PPS has been amazingly good when we have had big games in the PL.. or dont you remember as fondly as i do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loweman2 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Just seen this posted on football away days from last night ! Bit embarrassing isn’t it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, loweman2 said: Just seen this posted on football away days from last night ! Bit embarrassing isn’t it ! It’s in the kids section of the match day programme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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