SuperDerbySuperRams Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Are we not taking enough risks when level? Great to keep an unbeaten run going but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfcfan1 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 They are great for top 6 not great for top 2 (would be usually but Villa on a madness form right now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thierry Ennui Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Not today. We were outplayed, a draw was a good result in my opinion and further shows our ability to get something out of a game we should have lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owd miner Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Ohhhh Bodyform ..... bodyform for youuuuuuuu.,., sorry bout that .... i reckon we wete a bit lucky there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 We're definitely currently going through a blip in performances, which all teams have. I think in that context the fact we're managing not to lose is a positive but like all ruts we need to come out of it. I'm a little perplexed by Thorne keeping his place over Ledley recently. Thorne's fitness nor performances appear to be improving and Ledleys arguably one of our best players. Thorne is a distance away from the GT who had that tag, he's a weak link currently. I expect to see Baird and maybe Forsyth again next game - our defense looked incredibly panicky today and we left a lot of space in behind on the wings. I'd argue that that was one of our top 5 worst performances of the season though, so to get a point is something. The players need to treat it as a loss in terms of reacting to it, we need to get our consistency back if we are to compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWC1983 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Draws away are ok, but far too many at home. No creativity when it's required. Maddison showed us the type of player we are missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thierry Ennui Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Just now, CWC1983 said: Draws away are ok, but far too many at home. No creativity when it's required. Maddison showed us the type of player we are missing. ? Maddison plays where Vydra does so I don’t really know what you’re on about. We could do with more quality out wide, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDerbySuperRams Posted February 10, 2018 Author Share Posted February 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Penelope Pendrex said: ? Maddison plays where Vydra does so I don’t really know what you’re on about. We could do with more quality out wide, though. I read a stat that Vydra has completed 4 games this season? Why? He is simply put our best player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWC1983 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Penelope Pendrex said: ? Maddison plays where Vydra does so I don’t really know what you’re on about. We could do with more quality out wide, though. He might play in the same position, but they are completely different players. How many players do we have that are as comfortable on the ball as him? Agree, the quality out wide was terrible today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagerbob Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 15 minutes ago, SuperDerbySuperRams said: Are we not taking enough risks when level? Great to keep an unbeaten run going but... in the games we are on top, you might have a case. but today... a point was a very good result when we were clearly 2nd best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamRam Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 We seemed to freeze in the second half and invited pressure, GR should have changed it earlier as you could see the goal coming. Thorne wasn’t great however in his defence he needs something to aim at, his options are often limited. Once Vydra came off, we also lose our goal threat, not sure but have the players who finished the game got over 10 goals this season between them in a derby shirt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDerbySuperRams Posted February 10, 2018 Author Share Posted February 10, 2018 Just now, jagerbob said: in the games we are on top, you might have a case. but today... a point was a very good result when we were clearly 2nd best. Second best in large patches but not in the last 20. Was finely poised, same at Millwall. 3 points from either is better than 1 in each Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Yes you're right. I stated after we drew to Hull that Rowett is too cautious and is afraid to experiment, which I thought would cost us. A lot of obsession with this 'unbeaten run' that it has ended up costing us offensively for me as the players don't want to lose. A unbeaten run is good but only if you are winning games. Maybe we need to lose to get our season back on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 28 minutes ago, SuperDerbySuperRams said: Are we not taking enough risks when level? Great to keep an unbeaten run going but... That's rowett for you,it's both his strength and his weakness.....a very safe pair of hands but a steady eddy to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Today was one of those days where you take a point and move on. They happen, we weren’t very good. Generally I think we’re doing okay, on a bit of a blip but let’s not forget that we had a stonewaller turned down against Bristol City and a marginal offside against Millwall. We should be fine I think. Villa are also on their run, everyone at the top has one over the course of a season and theirs is happening now. They won’t keep winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 When you are the second best team overall, a draw is a good return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, nottingram said: Today was one of those days where you take a point and move on. They happen, we weren’t very good. Generally I think we’re doing okay, on a bit of a blip but let’s not forget that we had a stonewaller turned down against Bristol City and a marginal offside against Millwall. We should be fine I think. Villa are also on their run, everyone at the top has one over the course of a season and theirs is happening now. They won’t keep winning. Whilst you're right on these points @nottingram, the very fact we're bemoaning 1 moment in each of these games suggests that we aren't doing enough to win matches. More bravery Gary! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 When you are the second best team overall, particularly at home, shouldn’t the managers preparational and motivational qualities be in question? Oh no, it mustn’t, we’re still second in the table and unbeaten in however many games it is now. We’ll just have to put up with our sluggishness and be thankful for a point and the run is unbroken as St Gary knows best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsRam1999 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 In other seasons, many of these draws would be defeats in narrow games. 1 point in a game you deserve to lose is a good point. If drawing a lot of games is our dip in form, I will take it! Beats losing. Trust Gary to get the wins going again soon. COYR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 We just don’t have enough going forward to create oppourtunities to win tight games imo. Particularly in the wide areas there just isn’t enough threat to get the wins to secure a top 2 place. You have to be relentlessly winning to get autos and our recent form simply hasn’t been that. You look at teams like villa with players like adomah with 12 goals from out wide and you can see why they’ll get autos and we won’t. Just the way it is with us being restricted by FFP and losing Ince we just haven’t been able a team that has quite the attacking bite and creativity to match our excellent defence, which is a shame because we really aren’t more than a couple of players off. Still the playoffs and the hope villa bottle it like we have before mind so it’s far from done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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